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you know terral,Yodas words in empire strikes back apply so much to these Bush dupes here.Where he says to Luke-Unlearn what you have learned.These Bush/Obama dupes dont want to face facts that they have been brainwashed their entire lives by their government,media and the school systems.
These bad guys are working every damned day in precise accordance to every move Satan made in God's Infinite Realm in deceiving the sons of God in order to murder Adam the 'son of God' (Luke 3:38) 'and' in exact accordance to every battle fought between Michael the Archangel and the dragon 'now' cast down into this Adamic Realm. The force is now flowing with the Satanic Hosts 'and' shall continue doing so, right up until the moment that utter destruction is upon them. Elijah (Mal. 4:5-6) is standing at the door even now 'and' every soul that does not heed is word shall be utter destroyed from among the people (Acts 3:22-23). Elijah = John the Baptist = David = Abraham = Joshua = the coming 'prophet' = your father Adam. :0)"That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one might say, "See this, it is new"? Already it has existed for ages Which were before us. There is no remembrance of earlier things; And also of the later things which will occur, There will be for them no remembrance Among those who will come later still." Ecc. 1:9-11.
you know terral,Yodas words in empire strikes back apply so much to these Bush dupes here.Where he says to Luke-Unlearn what you have learned.These Bush/Obama dupes dont want to face facts that they have been brainwashed their entire lives by their government,media and the school systems.
Seriously now...who can really blame people for having guns?
Between the farce that is our police protection in most places, and the every growing concern that our Federal government's (what is it now fifty?) different armed police forces, there's a lot of be concerned about.
I do not think that the gun folks really have the stones to face down the *FEDstapo in most cases, but its a drop dead certainty they won't if they're disarmed.
FWIW, I doubt the government will ever be foolish enough to openly attempt to take everybody's guns in one fell swoop.
There's absolutely no reason for them to even try, really.
They have all the power and control systems in place that armed Americans are very little threat to their cozy system of crowd control.
The most effective totalitarian governments are those who never have to take off the velvet glove hiding the iron hand.
Contented slaves who blame their neighbors for everything that's going wrong in America are clearly no threat to the villians pulling the string in this shadow puppet republic we live in.
Read your Bibles, collect your arsenals and continue blaming everyone for the problem EXCEPT the people who benefit from the problems, and you're a PERFECT tool for the shamocracy.
Or conversely, blame the problems entirely on gun queers and anyone who makes more money that you do, and you are that other kind of tool which makes the matched set of tools this kleptocracy needs to continue the ongoing economic rape of our society.
But whatever either of you do, don't pay attention to details, and don't ever EVER follow the money to understand who benefits and who loses when these policies and regulations and tax laws continue to eviserate this formerly great democratic republic.
Just keep talking to us about economic theories you don't actually understand or haven't thought through in light of the world you really live in, and everything will be jake for you.
Just keep blaming your liberal or conservative neighbors (as though they benefit from your problems) and the *FEDstapo will never darken your doors.
* FEDstapo - copyright editec communications 2009
. . . Or conversely, blame the problems entirely on gun queers and anyone who makes more money that you do, and you are that other kind of tool which makes the matched set of tools this kleptocracy needs to continue the ongoing economic rape of our society . . .
Wait a MINUTE! You ASSURED us over and over that GUN QUEERS would never fight. Now you say they will? Might want to check your stories and keep track of your lies better . . .
cuckoo? Are we to also consider 1st Amendment 'Right To Speak' Americans as "Right To Speak QUEERS?" or what? This topic is about how the corrupt FBI is systematically 'revoking' the 2nd Amendment Rights of U.S. Citizens with 'no' felony convictions and 'no' misdemeanor convictions and not even one point against his driving record in a decade. The decision to 'revoke' my Constitutional Rights should come from a "Judge" and from a "Jury" of my peers and NOT from anyone connected to the out-of-control Bushie/Obama Administrations responsible for guaranteeing our Civil Rights 'and' for 'enforcing' the Rule of Law. The out-of-control FBI, that cannot even tell the difference between an empty hole . . .FBI Watch List
Alexandria Sanborn
Issue date: 3/23/09 Section: News
Questions and criticisms of the efficiency of current FBI terrorism screening methods* are beginning to surface. In May 2005, 288,000 were reported to be on this list. In May 2007, 755,000 were reported to be on this list. With such a rise to a number of 1,000,000 on the FBI watch list, as of March 2009, anyone would be interested to learn the story behind the numbers.
For starters, the FBI claims that there are not actually 1,000,000 individuals on this list, but rather, 1,000,000 entries: there are actually approximately 400,000 individuals and the rest of the entries are aliases used by the individuals. So how exactly do individuals like Senator Edward (Ted) Kennedy D-MA, children and infants such as John Willian Anderson, or the dead 9/11 hijackers fit into these numbers? Are they part of the 1,000,000 or is there a larger, suppressed number involved? Moreover, how do they even find themselves associated with the list?
Every American is a 'suspect' until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW. Period. Placing Americans on any "Terrorist List" is a direct violation of our Constitutional Rights! The Fifth Amendment says,A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to 'keep and bear Arms,' shall NOT BE INFRINGED.
I am being treated like a common criminal and called to 'answer' accusations from the FBI, when nobody has presented any indictment and no Judge can even say I have been convicted of a crime. And yet, I am being deprived of the liberty to go down to the local gun shop and buy a shotgun for the defense of my family 'without due process of law' or anything else. The Sixth Amendment says,No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
The out-of-control and corrupt FBI is systematically 'accusing' U.S. Citizens of being 'terrorists' without informing anyone of the nature and cause of the accusation 'and' without confronting me with witnesses standing against me 'and' without my having the opportunity to obtain witnesses in my favor, or to have the Assistance of any Legal Counsel for my defense.In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.
cuckoo; when everyone knows the bad guys already have guns!
you know terral, Yoda’s words in empire strikes back apply so much to these Bush dupes here. Where he says to Luke-Unlearn what you have learned. These Bush/Obama dupes don’t want to face facts that they have been brainwashed their entire lives by their government, media and the school systems.
I see a dangerous pattern of supplier willingness to create ammunition shortages very much on purpose! I made the trip down to the Super Walmart in order to buy some of the things on my Family Survival List that included ammunition for our hunting rifles and shotguns. I told the friendly Walmart worker that I was looking for 12 Gauge 2¾ 0/0 buckshot and he said, “We have not had any of that in months.” I was shocked to realize that Walmart had none of the most common shotgun sells at all. NONE. I asked the clerk when the next shipment of ammunition would arrive and his reply was that nobody knows. So, I asked about .308 Winchester ammo and he has not seen any of that ammunition in months either! I am trying to imagine how a Super Walmart sells shotguns and rifles for ammunition they are not even trying to keep in stock. My partner spent 22 dollars at the Gun Shop for a small box of ammo for his pistol, that Walmart carries for 6 dollars per box, but of course they have none in stock and cannot tell you when any new ammo might be delivered.Less than 10 days ago I went to buy my wife a handgun from a large national sporting goods retail outlet near Boise. They have 3 very large sets of shelves that are normally stacked high with every imaginable type of ammo, but on this day they had maybe 2% of their normal stock and 0, yes ZERO .38 cal. When I asked the salesman about it he said that they have not been able to get much and when they do it sells within a few days.
Because I am so concerned about what is unfolding in our country I decided to check around. Out of 5 major outlets I was able to obtain 2 boxes of .40 cal. and 1 box of .38, 250 rounds total. The story from each salesman was the same, there is none available and they don't know when they will receive more.
[SIZE=+1]At one location I got talking with the clerk and he told me that his brother works for Remington and has run their ammo making machines for over 10 years, in the past few years they have run 12 hours a day 7 days a week. TWO WEEKS after our last elections their management informed them that they were to cut back to 2 1/2 days a week and only run 8 hour a day. He said they had 50 semi-truck trailers waiting to be loaded but that they could not fill them . . . [/SIZE]
You can search “Ammo Shortage 2009” (google) and get over a half million hits, but the story above assumes that We The People are buying up all the ammo. If that were the case, then the Walmart people would be saying, “We keep running out!,” but that is not the story/excuse at all; because they are not even trying to keep their shelves stocked.[FONT="]Gun dealers experiencing shortages of bullets[/FONT]
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Henry Pierson Curtis | Sentinel Staff Writer [/FONT]
[FONT="]February 10, 2009[/FONT]
Selling bullets may be the most secure job in Florida as long as supplies last.
After months of heavy buying, gun dealers across the state are experiencing shortages.
Some say it began with the election of President Barack Obama. Others say it's about the economic downturn or fear of crime. Whatever the reasons, ammunition has been selling like plywood and bottled water in the days before a hurricane.
"The survivalist in all of us comes out," said John Ritz, manager of East Orange Shooting Sports in Winter Park. "It's more about protecting what you have."
I have been talking to many gun dealers and suppliers in my area and they say the ammunition shortage is only going to get worse and the prices are only going higher. In fact, a lot of price-gouging is going on already and the gun shops are making a literal killing. Therefore, those among you waiting until the last second to arm yourselves can expect to pay through the nose, IF you can get any bullets for your gun when the crap hits the fan . . .TAMPA (Bay News 9) -- Shooting a gun in the Bay area could become more difficult, but not because of new laws or restrictions.
Instead, weapons dealers said they are facing an obstacle of another kind - a shortage of ammunition.
Michael Basile ran into this problem when he took his new rifle to a shooting range for the first time. He said it ended up being harder than he thought it would be.
"The stores were completely wiped out, so it took us a while to find anything," he said.
He said he visited three or four different stores before he found the ammunition he needed.
Gun and ammunition retailers said the cause isn't a gun powder shortage or a product recall - it's simply a matter of supply and demand.
Stores here in Arizona are restocking and the prices are up. The black market is really thriving as most people I know are very much against having a record of owning one, or at least thats what I hear from a friend who knows these things.
I also know that at least a few folks have caches stashed in places accessable on foot or horseback. I think the real need for guns and ammo or other weapons really depends on where you are and what you plan to use those weapons for.
here at least, explosives could be used to take out a few bridges and isolate large areas, making the need for protection use of a gun secondary to harvesting game for food.
I look at the loads for some of the fancy 'assault' rifles and just don't see how I could kill an elk with it.
Conversely, trying to fend off several attackers with a bolt action 30-30 really isn't an ideal situation either.
he best weapon in my opinion for close proximity defense is a shotgun, preferably a double 12 or 16.
I am not a big handgun fan, and buying one legally paints a trail right back to the purchaser.
If the govt. is really trying to infringe on the right to bear arms, it is doing a damn poor job. Everyone I know has guns.
If one was really worried about it, one would not make a purchase of said weapon in a gun store, only to have it tracked down and seized later. If one was indeed concerned about the government infringing on one's right to bear arms, reason would direct that person to obtain weapons without leaving a record of it, and hide it.
If one was really concerned about the need to take such actions, then one might be inclined to stockpile food and relocate to a remote area. One might even attempt to find work in an occupation that kept one in or near remote areas. This type of concerned person might even learn or brush up on outdoor survival and first aid skills.
Not that I would advocate such actions, or even know much about it..... I'm just saying ......for the sake of conversation and all....
Seriously now...who can really blame people for having guns?
Between the farce that is our police protection in most places, and the every growing concern that our Federal government's (what is it now fifty?) different armed police forces, there's a lot of be concerned about.
I do not think that the gun folks really have the stones to face down the *FEDstapo in most cases, but its a drop dead certainty they won't if they're disarmed.
FWIW, I doubt the government will ever be foolish enough to openly attempt to take everybody's guns in one fell swoop.
There's absolutely no reason for them to even try, really.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbx08fbb-L4[/ame]President Obama Continues Assault on the Second Amendment
Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:48 By John Velleco
Director of Federal Affairs
President Obama is determined to eradicate the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens.
In recent meetings with Mexican President Felipe Calderón, the American President promised to urge the U.S. Senate to pass an international arms control treaty.
The treaty, cumbersomely titled the “Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials” (known by the acronym CIFTA), was signed by President Bill Clinton, but never ratified by the Senate.
President Obama is hoping to capitalize on an increased Democrat majority and push its quick ratification. The U.S. is one of four nations that have not ratified the treaty.
If ratified and the U.S. is found not to be in compliance with any provisions of the treaty -- such as a provision that would outlaw reloading ammunition without a government license -- President Obama would be empowered to implement regulations without Congressional approval.
Supporters of CIFTA claim the treaty is not a threat to the Second Amendment, but only a “symbolic” gesture. But symbolic of what? That America really is to blame for problems of violence and drug gangs in a foreign country? That the American government can be pressed by a foreign country to alter the Second Amendment? . . . (story continues)
