FBI hates American Muslims?

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    Some of the South Californian mosques and its parishioners became FBI’s surveillance objects and that what is really bothers American Muslim community. I came to the US long before 9/11 and I was really shocked when I saw what happened and every day I pray for the lost in this attack. But FBI and Mueller started illegal surveillance after us! They talk about America’s and its people’s security, but they are simply violating our rights with regard to our nationality and confession. Instead of tracking down the real terrorists they are looking for a sitting duck, spending money of taxpayers and making a window dressing for the public. Does the Agency facing lack of qualified personnel and financing and can’t do some real job to protect all of us? If so, not only American Muslims are in trouble...
     
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    Radicalisation of young moslems often takes place in the mosques. If moslems gave up the radicals among them, security services would not have to conduct surveillance ops. If you want full acceptance stop protecting the bad apples!
     
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    How many different web boards did you paste this on aamirah?
     
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    Salaamu 'alayki wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu. It's important to understand how these people operate, ukhti. They seem to be less interested in taking proactive measures to combat extremist violence than they are in creating an illusion of competence by fighting "terrorism" that they themselves create. Look at the case of Br. Sami Samir Hassoun:


    So the FBI convinces a Muslim to kill people against his own principles, gives him what he believes are explosives, and then arrests him so they can announce another hollow victory in "the war on terrorism." They're probably keeping our masajid under surveillance in order to find more young brothers to turn into criminals. The saddest part is that we probably wouldn't be better off in any other country. All we can do is love Allah (SWT) and our brothers and sisters, make du'a, and hope for the best.
     
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    Over here it seems to happen through conversations with FBI informants.
     
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    Thats bullshit Kalam, did the FBI informant put a gun to the persons head and make them get the fake explosives? why didnt the guy just tell the FBI informant to fuck off and thats it? No one is turning these young men into terrorists, they were already on their way if they went ahead and tried to do this. Stop making excuses, no one is making these Muslim men do anything. They are not children, if they are really that simple minded to let an FBI informant talk them into getting explosives I don't know what to tell you.
     
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    Do you think the informant simply approached him and said, "Hey bro, want to massacre some filthy American infidels?" The article mentions how the man befriended Hassoun and had 'conversations' with him in Arabic to win over his trust before giving him the fake explosives. Am I to believe that these conversations played no role in Hassoun's complete reversal of his position on killing people? It's obvious what the FBI was doing here.

    I'm not suggesting that Hassoun was some sort of innocent saint or that the FBI held a gun to his head; he made a decision and it was an extremely stupid one. I do believe that they convinced him to commit a crime and provided the means for him to do so. It's like when cops on those stupid TV shows dress up as prostitutes or drug dealers and then arrest people who express interest in their services -- it does nothing to address the actual crimes. The FBI has the same degree of responsibility in this case that certain 'terrorist' groups have when they indoctrinate their followers and convince them to blow themselves up.
     
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    The FBI and the Police do similar things to Blacks and Hispanics in the inner cities all the time, pretend to be drug suppliers and when they find someone who wants to make a big purchase, they bust him. Doesn't matter if the drugs were real or not, the intent was there to buy them and distribute. Similar situation with this young man, the intent was there. You expect Muslims to get a pass, but all the Blacks and Hispanics that get duped should be locked up? like I said, these men are not children, if a Muslim gets approached about terrorism, they should tell the informant or whoever it is to fuck off and contact the authorities.
     
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    The government shouldn't be in the business of creating crimes and criminals in the first place. If drugs are a problem, efforts should be focused on improving anti-drug education and working to bring down drug-related organized crime -- not dressing up and walking around with baggies of oregano. This same basic approach can be applied to prostitution, terrorism, and most other crimes.

    FWIW, a person can be black, hispanic, and a Muslim. It doesn't matter who the victims of these schemes are. They're pointless and dishonest regardless of who ends up getting thrown in jail.

    And again, I'm sure the informant made sure that they were good 'friends' before he began to bring up the topic of terrorism. And I doubt that he did so bluntly. These people have been in the brainwashing business since long before you and I were born.
     
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    The intent worries me, what if instead of an informant this was an actual terrorist who wanted to do harm? this is why they do operations like this in the first place. Whether the informant was a good friend to him made no difference, if my best friend told me he needed my help to kill someone or blow up a building, I would tell him to fuck off and contact the authorities. People are not sheep, this man is an adult and made his own decision, now he must face the consequences. Maybe Muslims needs to start saying no to terrorism in general, whether its to informant or actual terrorists.
     

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