FBI documents raise new questions in Wellstone death

[JiggsCasey]

I've always had little doubt that Minn. Sen. Paul Wellstone was murdered shortly before the 02 midterms and shortly after the Iraq vote (the only truely progressive senator). This is based on the evidence, not feeling.

Another conveniently timed plane crash, just like Mel Carnahan, Mike Connell, Jaime Roldos, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Anyhow, here's the latest that surfaced the other day... Does nothing to sway the impression of a cover-up:

FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death
Opposing Views: FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death

FBI records show investigators looked into the possibility that the death of Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was no accident.


Wellstone was killed eight years ago in a plane crash. The crash killed seven others, including his wife, daughter and three staffers. The National Transportation Safety Board determined the crash was caused by pilot error, but that wasn't always the belief.

Minnesota Public Radio obtained the FBI records of Wellstone, which began in the early 1970s. The files show the organization pursued various criminal leads as part of the investigation into the crash.

Part of the FBI probe focused on problems with the plane’s de-icing equipment. According to one lead, the cause of that faulty equipment may not have been an accident: A caller from Florida, where the flight originated, said members of the American Trucking Association had planned to disconnect the plane’s de-icing equipment because they were upset with Wellstone’s efforts to expose organized crime in the trucking industry.

The report also reveals that Wellstone’s office received a threatening postcard the day before the plane crash. The handwritten postcard said in part that "the sniper should go after people like you, not real Americans."

Despite all of that, the final NTSB report said there was no evidence of criminal activity, and said it was simply pilot error.
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They changed the alleged cause of the crash twice, by the way.

NIST, NTSB, SEC... they all do what they're told.

 

[blu]

organized crime / secret societies aka big business runs this country. mess with their profits and they take you out, see jfk for example, also see the guy who "mysteriously died in a plane crash" after he was going to expose voter fraud perpetrated by the bush administration

 

[editec]

His was a convenient death, wasn' it?

I met this guy in Chicago, shortly before he died.

He was one of the men to watch in the liberal team.

Then he was dead.

And now an Illinois Dem is POTUS.

 

[Sarah G]

I've always had little doubt that Minn. Sen. Paul Wellstone was murdered shortly before the 02 midterms and shortly after the Iraq vote (the only truely progressive senator). This is based on the evidence, not feeling.

Another conveniently timed plane crash, just like Mel Carnahan, Mike Connell, Jaime Roldos, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Anyhow, here's the latest that surfaced the other day... Does nothing to sway the impression of a cover-up:

FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death
Opposing Views: FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death

FBI records show investigators looked into the possibility that the death of Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was no accident.


Wellstone was killed eight years ago in a plane crash. The crash killed seven others, including his wife, daughter and three staffers. The National Transportation Safety Board determined the crash was caused by pilot error, but that wasn't always the belief.

Minnesota Public Radio obtained the FBI records of Wellstone, which began in the early 1970s. The files show the organization pursued various criminal leads as part of the investigation into the crash.

Part of the FBI probe focused on problems with the plane’s de-icing equipment. According to one lead, the cause of that faulty equipment may not have been an accident: A caller from Florida, where the flight originated, said members of the American Trucking Association had planned to disconnect the plane’s de-icing equipment because they were upset with Wellstone’s efforts to expose organized crime in the trucking industry.

The report also reveals that Wellstone’s office received a threatening postcard the day before the plane crash. The handwritten postcard said in part that "the sniper should go after people like you, not real Americans."

Despite all of that, the final NTSB report said there was no evidence of criminal activity, and said it was simply pilot error.
​

They changed the alleged cause of the crash twice, by the way.

NIST, NTSB, SEC... they all do what they're told.

Pilot error, of course.. Wellstone was such a good senator and a REAL American.

 

[JiggsCasey]

organized crime / secret societies aka big business runs this country. mess with their profits and they take you out, see jfk for example, also see the guy who "mysteriously died in a plane crash" after he was going to expose voter fraud perpetrated by the bush administration

That would be Mike Connell, mentioned above. ... Another man who received death threats shortly before his... well, death.

But really, the list of plane crash deaths for people who have dirt on the technocrats who run this country is quite vast. It's the perfect crime, and our CIA has perfected the practice. Think about it: It's almost impossible to fully investigate, replete with charred remains and an abundance of excuses - everything from "pilot error" to "mechanical failure." ... And then the NTSB can come right in and tie up any loose ends.

 

[CurveLight]

I believe one of the strongest voices for a new 9/11 investigation advocate died in a plane crash as well.

 

[American Horse]

His was a convenient death, wasn' it?

I met this guy in Chicago, shortly before he died.

He was one of the men to watch in the liberal team.

Then he was dead.

And now an Illinois Dem is POTUS.

Wow! You've just nailed it Ed. Very very perceptive -

 

[candycorn]

I've always had little doubt that Minn. Sen. Paul Wellstone was murdered shortly before the 02 midterms and shortly after the Iraq vote (the only truely progressive senator). This is based on the evidence, not feeling.

Another conveniently timed plane crash, just like Mel Carnahan, Mike Connell, Jaime Roldos, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Anyhow, here's the latest that surfaced the other day... Does nothing to sway the impression of a cover-up:

FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death
Opposing Views: FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death

FBI records show investigators looked into the possibility that the death of Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was no accident.


Wellstone was killed eight years ago in a plane crash. The crash killed seven others, including his wife, daughter and three staffers. The National Transportation Safety Board determined the crash was caused by pilot error, but that wasn't always the belief.

Minnesota Public Radio obtained the FBI records of Wellstone, which began in the early 1970s. The files show the organization pursued various criminal leads as part of the investigation into the crash.

Part of the FBI probe focused on problems with the plane’s de-icing equipment. According to one lead, the cause of that faulty equipment may not have been an accident: A caller from Florida, where the flight originated, said members of the American Trucking Association had planned to disconnect the plane’s de-icing equipment because they were upset with Wellstone’s efforts to expose organized crime in the trucking industry.

The report also reveals that Wellstone’s office received a threatening postcard the day before the plane crash. The handwritten postcard said in part that "the sniper should go after people like you, not real Americans."

Despite all of that, the final NTSB report said there was no evidence of criminal activity, and said it was simply pilot error.
​

They changed the alleged cause of the crash twice, by the way.

NIST, NTSB, SEC... they all do what they're told.

Pilot error, of course.. Wellstone was such a good senator and a REAL American.

It was pilot error. There is zero evidence of conspiracy, government involvement, etc...

 

[JiggsCasey]

It was pilot error. There is zero evidence of conspiracy, government involvement, etc...

Try avoiding making statements of desperate opinion as fact. Makes you look more and more foolish.

If there was no evidence, then why did the FBI follow leads in the first place? Motive, means and opportunity were all clearly established, and the man received multiple threats for his famous anti Iraq resolution speech.

Pilot error was the third "cause," after icy wings and mechanical failure were proven demonstrably false. You won't watch, because it disrupts your "Bush is God" narrative, but here's the evidence you deny, liar:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vbf49kzWFw[/ame]

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Idiot flew into icy weather.

Engaging in Darwin Award behavior does not mean the Illuminati did you in.

 

[JiggsCasey]

Idiot flew into icy weather.

Engaging in Darwin Award behavior does not mean the Illuminati did you in.

This is not accurate at all... Watch the video, or read about the case, and stop talking from your rectum.

 

[CurveLight]

I've always had little doubt that Minn. Sen. Paul Wellstone was murdered shortly before the 02 midterms and shortly after the Iraq vote (the only truely progressive senator). This is based on the evidence, not feeling.

Another conveniently timed plane crash, just like Mel Carnahan, Mike Connell, Jaime Roldos, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Anyhow, here's the latest that surfaced the other day... Does nothing to sway the impression of a cover-up:

FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death
Opposing Views: FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death

FBI records show investigators looked into the possibility that the death of Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was no accident.


Wellstone was killed eight years ago in a plane crash. The crash killed seven others, including his wife, daughter and three staffers. The National Transportation Safety Board determined the crash was caused by pilot error, but that wasn't always the belief.

Minnesota Public Radio obtained the FBI records of Wellstone, which began in the early 1970s. The files show the organization pursued various criminal leads as part of the investigation into the crash.

Part of the FBI probe focused on problems with the plane’s de-icing equipment. According to one lead, the cause of that faulty equipment may not have been an accident: A caller from Florida, where the flight originated, said members of the American Trucking Association had planned to disconnect the plane’s de-icing equipment because they were upset with Wellstone’s efforts to expose organized crime in the trucking industry.

The report also reveals that Wellstone’s office received a threatening postcard the day before the plane crash. The handwritten postcard said in part that "the sniper should go after people like you, not real Americans."

Despite all of that, the final NTSB report said there was no evidence of criminal activity, and said it was simply pilot error.
​

They changed the alleged cause of the crash twice, by the way.

NIST, NTSB, SEC... they all do what they're told.

Pilot error, of course.. Wellstone was such a good senator and a REAL American.

It was pilot error. There is zero evidence of conspiracy, government involvement, etc...

Your explanation complete with independent verifiable sources certainly cleared it all up!

 

[JiggsCasey]

... bravely saying what too few people dared to say at the time, when it would have really mattered.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF2CLRZLK2E[/ame]

a true patriot, and a REAL defender of the U.S. Constitution.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So because the FBI did their job and investigated all possible leads AND found no evidence to support sabotage you are claiming the mere act of investigating a possibility PROVES that it was what happened?

I fail to see a single source to any evidence to support your claim. Just a "damn they did not like him" claim.

By the way the CIA hated Bush. They routinely leaked material on him. Illegally I might add. But you want us to believe they were ordered to kill a US Senator for Bush and it has been kept secret for 8 years? Sure thing.

 

[candycorn]

It was pilot error. There is zero evidence of conspiracy, government involvement, etc...

Try avoiding making statements of desperate opinion as fact. Makes you look more and more foolish.

If there was no evidence, then why did the FBI follow leads in the first place? Motive, means and opportunity were all clearly established, and the man received multiple threats for his famous anti Iraq resolution speech.

Pilot error was the third "cause," after icy wings and mechanical failure were proven demonstrably false. You won't watch, because it disrupts your "Bush is God" narrative, but here's the evidence you deny, liar:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vbf49kzWFw[/ame]

My "bush is god" narrative...oh brother. You obviously can't read.

Lets start a square one.

Has anything that ever happened, anywhere, at any time, NOT a conspiracy? I mean is the sun conspiring with the grass to grow?

Seek help; immediately. You desperately need it bitch.

 

[candycorn]

... bravely saying what too few people dared to say at the time, when it would have really mattered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF2CLRZLK2E

a true patriot, and a REAL defender of the U.S. Constitution.

Whats the deal with the woman behind him? She looks possessed. Probably a GOP dirty trick.

R.I.P Senator Wellstone.

Loved the speech; his first one on the floor if I remember.

 

[HUGGY]

I've always had little doubt that Minn. Sen. Paul Wellstone was murdered shortly before the 02 midterms and shortly after the Iraq vote (the only truely progressive senator). This is based on the evidence, not feeling.

Another conveniently timed plane crash, just like Mel Carnahan, Mike Connell, Jaime Roldos, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Anyhow, here's the latest that surfaced the other day... Does nothing to sway the impression of a cover-up:

FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death
Opposing Views: FBI Raises Questions About Paul Wellstone's Death

FBI records show investigators looked into the possibility that the death of Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was no accident.


Wellstone was killed eight years ago in a plane crash. The crash killed seven others, including his wife, daughter and three staffers. The National Transportation Safety Board determined the crash was caused by pilot error, but that wasn't always the belief.

Minnesota Public Radio obtained the FBI records of Wellstone, which began in the early 1970s. The files show the organization pursued various criminal leads as part of the investigation into the crash.

Part of the FBI probe focused on problems with the plane’s de-icing equipment. According to one lead, the cause of that faulty equipment may not have been an accident: A caller from Florida, where the flight originated, said members of the American Trucking Association had planned to disconnect the plane’s de-icing equipment because they were upset with Wellstone’s efforts to expose organized crime in the trucking industry.

The report also reveals that Wellstone’s office received a threatening postcard the day before the plane crash. The handwritten postcard said in part that "the sniper should go after people like you, not real Americans."

Despite all of that, the final NTSB report said there was no evidence of criminal activity, and said it was simply pilot error.
​

They changed the alleged cause of the crash twice, by the way.

NIST, NTSB, SEC... they all do what they're told.

Pilot error, of course.. Wellstone was such a good senator and a REAL American.

It was pilot error. There is zero evidence of conspiracy, government involvement, etc...

ERROR!!! The report said "probable" pilot error. Big difference. I, being a pilot am aware of most of what can go wrong in taking heavier than air machinery to altitudes that if not respected can be fatal. What the report said is that the airspeed was too low(50 knots below recommended approach speed) and de-icing was not the likely cause. If anything was fucked with it had to be the airspeed indicator. That would be a difficult instrument to sabotage as would the pitot tube which feeds it air. A simple gps check would show the planes airspeed to be erroneous. Whether intentionally "adjusted" or just a bug or part of a bird in the pitot tube caused the airspeed misinformation the pilot should have caught it. If the sysyem was plugged it would have been obvious and the pilot would have erred on a higher than normal approach speed to make sure. Pilots are trained to constantly scan the instruments in a methodical fashion. It is almost impossible that any reasonably alert pilot would miss something as critical as faulty air speed indication. It is more likely that the pilot had a medical problem such as a stroke or a heart attack and couldn't let anyone know he was under durress.

 

[candycorn]

Pilot error, of course.. Wellstone was such a good senator and a REAL American.

It was pilot error. There is zero evidence of conspiracy, government involvement, etc...

ERROR!!! The report said "probable" pilot error. Big difference. I, being a pilot am aware of most of what can go wrong in taking heavier than air machinery to altitudes that if not respected can be fatal. What the report said is that the airspeed was too low(50 knots below recommended approach speed) and de-icing was not the likely cause. If anything was fucked with it had to be the airspeed indicator. That would be a difficult instrument to sabotage as would the pitot tube which feeds it air. A simple gps check would show the planes airspeed to be erroneous. Whether intentionally "adjusted" or just a bug or part of a bird in the pitot tube caused the airspeed misinformation the pilot should have caught it. If the sysyem was plugged it would have been obvious and the pilot would have erred on a higher than normal approach speed to make sure. Pilots are trained to constantly scan the instruments in a methodical fashion. It is almost impossible that any reasonably alert pilot would miss something as critical as faulty air speed indication. It is more likely that the pilot had a medical problem such as a stroke or a heart attack and couldn't let anyone know he was under durress.

What, we're not blaming Jewish Bankers or the Mossad for this one?

 

[HUGGY]

It was pilot error. There is zero evidence of conspiracy, government involvement, etc...

ERROR!!! The report said "probable" pilot error. Big difference. I, being a pilot am aware of most of what can go wrong in taking heavier than air machinery to altitudes that if not respected can be fatal. What the report said is that the airspeed was too low(50 knots below recommended approach speed) and de-icing was not the likely cause. If anything was fucked with it had to be the airspeed indicator. That would be a difficult instrument to sabotage as would the pitot tube which feeds it air. A simple gps check would show the planes airspeed to be erroneous. Whether intentionally "adjusted" or just a bug or part of a bird in the pitot tube caused the airspeed misinformation the pilot should have caught it. If the sysyem was plugged it would have been obvious and the pilot would have erred on a higher than normal approach speed to make sure. Pilots are trained to constantly scan the instruments in a methodical fashion. It is almost impossible that any reasonably alert pilot would miss something as critical as faulty air speed indication. It is more likely that the pilot had a medical problem such as a stroke or a heart attack and couldn't let anyone know he was under durress.

What, we're not blaming Jewish Bankers or the Mossad for this one?

You are clearly thinking of someotherbody. Find one post where I have blamed Mossad or Jewish bankers for anything.

 

[GunZawga]

So because the FBI did their job and investigated all possible leads AND found no evidence to support sabotage you are claiming the mere act of investigating a possibility PROVES that it was what happened?

I fail to see a single source to any evidence to support your claim. Just a "damn they did not like him" claim.

By the way the CIA hated Bush. They routinely leaked material on him. Illegally I might add. But you want us to believe they were ordered to kill a US Senator for Bush and it has been kept secret for 8 years? Sure thing.

Probably because most of them got their Jobs there when his father ran it?

If ignorance is bliss -- you shall be the king of bliss!