Father Defend Daughter's Right to Wear Chain-wallet to School

There is something very wrong with teaching a child to put herself in a position where she might end up spending her career saying "you want fries with that?"

What?! We are talking about Middle School. This will have nothing to do with her future career. When I was in school I was a misfit and very anti-authoritarian. Today I work in a bio-tech where I get respect and admiration...and I do not serve fries.

Lady, you got some serious problems.
 
What?! We are talking about Middle School. This will have nothing to do with her future career. When I was in school I was a misfit and very anti-authoritarian. Today I work in a bio-tech where I get respect and admiration...and I do not serve fries.

Lady, you got some serious problems.

So you want your daughter to be a misfit and be anti-authoritarian and you think *I've* got problems?
 
So you want your daughter to be a misfit and be anti-authoritarian and you think *I've* got problems?

I want my daughter to be comfortable and free to be herself. If she was a cheerleader, I would support that, if she is goth I support that, if she is becomes a junkie...I don't support that, but I will love her and help her as best I can.

I don't wish any of the pain that I suffered in school. My daughter is who she is. And I support her decision to fight this policy. And she supports my decision to take up her cause.
 
No, not true at all. And when has the status quo ever been necessary? You act as though speaking out is wrong and you use an extreme example from left field in an attempt to belittle my argument.

My argument is not weak, and the people of Abington MA (and the surrounding communities) have been discussing this in a very lively fashion...and a lot of people are for changing the policy.

You seem to like to argue for the sake of arguing. Don't paint me with that brush brother. Your argument is weak.


No, your arguement IS weak. WHEN has the status quo ever been necessary? Gosh, I wonder if Bonnie and Clyde know the answer to that question. Or your plumber. See, that's the problem.. You take such a cavalier approach to concepts that are notoriously popular to denigrate for the sake of personally feeling rebellious or taking aim at "the man". Life is not always some 1984 plot against you or your kid. It really is true that you devalue the process by making it your answer to every little thing that you think should conform to your opinion REGARDLESS of the school's prerogative.


But, go ahead and itch the scratch, dude.. Perhaps you'll find yourself trading chain wallets for the uniforms that get to the very core of removing the issue altogether.
 
Face it, your argument against me is weak. There is nothing wrong with teaching a child that if they feel strongly about an issue (and my daughter does), then challenge it logically and lobby for change.

You seem to have forgotten our roots.

HA!

yea.. because CLEARLY your kid is being taxed without representation!

:rolleyes:


and, you devalue ACTUAL issues where railing against THE MAN is ACTUALLY necessary by being so flippant about the application of protest. It becomes a farce. You might as well claim that the sky is falling... you know.. JUST so kids can wear a fashion accessory to a public location where education WAS once the main concern instead of popularity and the latest flash in the pan.
 
I want my daughter to be comfortable and free to be herself. If she was a cheerleader, I would support that, if she is goth I support that, if she is becomes a junkie...I don't support that, but I will love her and help her as best I can.

I don't wish any of the pain that I suffered in school. My daughter is who she is. And I support her decision to fight this policy. And she supports my decision to take up her cause.

oh come on dude! Don't you think that kids should be allowed to wear needles hanging out of their veins if that is the current TREND in fashion? If YOU don't think so then how about the kid whose parents are goading her into "fighting the man"? Don't they count like your kid does?


sounds like someone is living vicariously. It's nice to relive the summer of love, eh? Even if it's marionette style?
 
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After years in the beauty biz, Engle had seen her share of crazy ladies demanding perfect, Glamour-cover-worthy brows. But this Crazy Lady wasn’t talking about her own brows. The brows in question belonged to Crazy Lady’s daughter. Who was eight.

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you gotta FIGHT.. for your RIGHT....

for a brazzzzzziiilliiaaannn...
 
No, your arguement IS weak. WHEN has the status quo ever been necessary? Gosh, I wonder if Bonnie and Clyde know the answer to that question. Or your plumber. See, that's the problem.. You take such a cavalier approach to concepts that are notoriously popular to denigrate for the sake of personally feeling rebellious or taking aim at "the man". Life is not always some 1984 plot against you or your kid. It really is true that you devalue the process by making it your answer to every little thing that you think should conform to your opinion REGARDLESS of the school's prerogative.


But, go ahead and itch the scratch, dude.. Perhaps you'll find yourself trading chain wallets for the uniforms that get to the very core of removing the issue altogether.
Weak
 
HA!

yea.. because CLEARLY your kid is being taxed without representation!

:rolleyes:


and, you devalue ACTUAL issues where railing against THE MAN is ACTUALLY necessary by being so flippant about the application of protest. It becomes a farce. You might as well claim that the sky is falling... you know.. JUST so kids can wear a fashion accessory to a public location where education WAS once the main concern instead of popularity and the latest flash in the pan.
What are you talking about? You are so hell bent on opposing me that you are weakening your own arguments against me. So your contention is that if someone doesn't like a policy, that person should not upset the status quo or make a farce out of legitimate protest by speaking out or lobbying for a re-evaluation?

Talk about being a loser, you take the cake.
 
oh come on dude! Don't you think that kids should be allowed to wear needles hanging out of their veins if that is the current TREND in fashion? If YOU don't think so then how about the kid whose parents are goading her into "fighting the man"? Don't they count like your kid does?


sounds like someone is living vicariously. It's nice to relive the summer of love, eh? Even if it's marionette style?

You have issues. Get a life.
 
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Facials, bikini waxes, mani/pedis and blowouts have long been de rigueur Rittenhouse and Main Line beauty regimens — but nowadays, the “women” getting these luxe spa treatments have yet to reach puberty

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/pretty_babies/page1


After years in the beauty biz, Engle had seen her share of crazy ladies demanding perfect, Glamour-cover-worthy brows. But this Crazy Lady wasn’t talking about her own brows. The brows in question belonged to Crazy Lady’s daughter. Who was eight.

After sweating through the kid’s eyebrow wax, Engle, today an aesthetician at the Adolf Biecker Salon/Spa outposts in the Rittenhouse Hotel and Strafford — and, it should be noted, one of the most sought-after eyebrow specialists in the region — was directed to give her pint-size client a … bikini wax.

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you gotta FIGHT.. for your RIGHT....

for a brazzzzzziiilliiaaannn...

You and Jillian are sell-outs. You post about changes we need to make and belittle anyone who does just that.

Once again, the people of my community feel strongly about this. We are meeting as a community on Monday night to discuss a Charter change in our town. We are meeting again on Wednesday night to discuss re-evaluating the dress code...and you feel that is wrong or cavalier? Enjoy your life of complicity.
 
You have issues. Get a life.

Actually you sound like the one with issues, Shogun is displaying maturity and care for the tweens. That some parents today seem unable to explain to their children that certain privileges come with age. Both parenting and education journals advocate responsibility/privilege being necessary for healthy development.

Middle school is not the time for parents to relinquish all control over their children's appearance, in the way Goth or 'Pretty baby' styles tend towards. Certainly for special occasions parents might make those types of exceptions, or wearing make-up for instance, but as a reward for being responsible.

Some guidelines on what kids that age should be responsible for: homework; at least an hour a week on chores; managing money of reasonable amounts; caring for siblings; yardwork; scheduling their time; picking out their own clothes-within standards set by parents and school dress codes.

Reasonable rewards, (invert for punishment), depends on the parents ability/desire to allow: computer time for non-homework, phone privileges, going to the mall with X number of dollars, picking movies, friends coming over, etc.
 
Actually you sound like the one with issues, Shogun is displaying maturity and care for the tweens. That some parents today seem unable to explain to their children that certain privileges come with age. Both parenting and education journals advocate responsibility/privilege being necessary for healthy development.

Middle school is not the time for parents to relinquish all control over their children's appearance, in the way Goth or 'Pretty baby' styles tend towards. Certainly for special occasions parents might make those types of exceptions, or wearing make-up for instance, but as a reward for being responsible.

Some guidelines on what kids that age should be responsible for: homework; at least an hour a week on chores; managing money of reasonable amounts; caring for siblings; yardwork; scheduling their time; picking out their own clothes-within standards set by parents and school dress codes.

Reasonable rewards, (invert for punishment), depends on the parents ability/desire to allow: computer time for non-homework, phone privileges, going to the mall with X number of dollars, picking movies, friends coming over, etc.
Oh I see, I am raising my daughter wrong by allowing her to express herself with her style of dress? Right. No surprise that you sided against me. The irony here is not that you oppose my decision to lobby for re-evaluation of a dress code...which is my right, the irony is that you are claiming that shogun is mature while I am not.

Kathianne, you have proven time and again that you are condescending and aloof.
 
Oh I see, I am raising my daughter wrong by allowing her to express herself with her style of dress? Right. No surprise that you sided against me. The irony here is not that you oppose my decision to lobby for re-evaluation of a dress code...which is my right, the irony is that you are claiming that shogun is mature while I am not.

Kathianne, you have proven time and again that you are condescending and aloof.

Here that all! Now I'm aloof. :rofl: :rofl:

I'm not condescending, just better than some. :eusa_whistle:
 

:rofl: Taoman, you are my best buddy. How's that? :eusa_whistle: Give me a break, you've got to have something better than I'm distant. Anyone here any length of time does not think I'm dispassionate, quite the contrary. As Grump.
 

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