Fat people, drinkers, smokers, engaging in "risky behavior" and must be punished...

[Modbert]

How do you plan to determine who's having unprotected anal sex? and put a tax on it?

Easy, Republicans will just tax the Liberals. Because we all know that Republicans never have Anal Sex. Except when the Republican politicians are busy fucking the U.S. up the ass.

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

And I cannot believe that A-type personalities aren't taxed at a higher rate. Their heart and blood pressure problems are a burden on the system. They forget to eat properly, too. Ambition cannot be tolerated as it drains the healthcare system.

I can't believe people who drink Coke aren't taxed higher.

 

[Douger]

... With extra taxation, because they are a burden on the medical system and they should PAY for their excesses and risky behavior.

Well....

What about other high-risk activities, such as intravenous drug use, unprotected anal sex --unprotected sex of any kind -- and any other activity that is known to spread AIDS? Shouldn't these folks share the responsibility of the burden their behavior is placing on the system?

Wonder why none of this is addressed in the health care reform proposals?

Discuss.

I know a couple of fatass Amurkins that moved to New Zealand and they couldn't get residency due to the blubber they were packing.
Residency comes with health care and these idiots were considered a possible burden to the system.


None of this is addressed because Amurkastan is the fatass, rump bumping and junkie capital of the world !

Amurkastan in pictures.
www.peopleofwalmart.com

You actually "know" them or it's a rumor. Usually, people don't broadcast something this embarrassing.

Yeah. I know the idiots. They live down here now.
I never said they were smart. That should be obvious anyhoo. 100 lbs overweight is only for morons.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I know all the Leftists in this country like to point to Western Europe and especially the UK as being their Utopian Paradises but i'm just not following their herd on that one. There are many many serious problems with Europe's health care systems such as long waiting lists and death panels. The most classic example of Socialized Medicine run amok has to be in Great Britain where they have now actually created a Fat Police Gestapo. This Gestapo has the authority to storm citizens' homes and confiscate their children if deemed "obese" by the State. The parents then are charged with child abuse. Wait it even gets worse though...To get their children back from the Government many parents have now been forced to agree to allowing the Government to install video cameras in their homes so the Government can monitor that they're caring for their children "properly." This is where Socialism inevitably takes you. A Fat Police Gestapo? Yikes! So i don't want to hear about how wonderful Western Europe's health care systems are anymore. I don't want my country going down their road. Let the people drink their soda and eat their chips for God's sake. Get the H*ll out of their lives! More Freedom & Liberty for the People not Less!

 

[DiveCon]

I know all the Leftists in this country like to point to Western Europe and especially the UK as being their Utopian Paradises but i'm just not following their herd on that one. There are many many serious problems with Europe's health care systems such as long waiting lists and death panels. The most classic example of Socialized Medicine run amok has to be in Great Britain where they have now actually created a Fat Police Gestapo. This Gestapo has the authority to storm citizens' homes and confiscate their children if deemed "obese" by the State. The parents then are charged with child abuse. Wait it even gets worse though...To get their children back from the Government many parents have now been forced to agree to allowing the Government to install video cameras in their homes so the Government can monitor that they're caring for their children "properly." This is where Socialism inevitably takes you. A Fat Police Gestapo? Yikes! So i don't want to hear about how wonderful Western Europe's health care systems are anymore. I don't want my country going down their road. Let the people drink their soda and eat their chips for God's sake. Get the H*ll out of their lives! More Freedom & Liberty for the People not Less!

gonna need to see some links to back all those claims up

 

[NYcarbineer]

[ Because we all know that Republicans never have Anal Sex. :

That will come as a surprise to a lot of Republicans' wives, girlfriends, and 'companions'.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I know all the Leftists in this country like to point to Western Europe and especially the UK as being their Utopian Paradises but i'm just not following their herd on that one. There are many many serious problems with Europe's health care systems such as long waiting lists and death panels.

France doesn't have long waiting lists and pay half for their healthcare that we do.

 

[Modbert]

That will come as a surprise to a lot of Republicans' wives, girlfriends, and 'companions'.

Notice the eyeroll.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That will come as a surprise to a lot of Republicans' wives, girlfriends, and 'companions'.

Notice the eyeroll.

oh, I was with you. I was deadpanning.

 

[SableRay]

... With extra taxation, because they are a burden on the medical system and they should PAY for their excesses and risky behavior.

Well....

What about other high-risk activities, such as intravenous drug use, unprotected anal sex --unprotected sex of any kind -- and any other activity that is known to spread AIDS? Shouldn't these folks share the responsibility of the burden their behavior is placing on the system?

Wonder why none of this is addressed in the health care reform proposals?

Discuss.

Well, since I am over 80 lbs overweight I will say we need a shrink. Obesity is a killer. I truly wish there was a way to stop the spread of AIDS from having sex -vaginally-orally-and anally. Needle use I could care less if it is because of an illegal substance.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

No one has been engaged in more risky & dangerous behavior than our own Government has in recent years. I say we fine and tax all the incompetent & corrupt politicians who have bankrupted and weakened our nation these last few years. Lets start there first. Leave the friggin soda drinkers & potato chip eaters alone for God's sake. Seriously,what the H*ll has happened to our country?

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

No one has been engaged in more risky & dangerous behavior than our own Government has in recent years. I say we fine and tax all the incompetent & corrupt politicians who have bankrupted and weakened our nation these last few years. Lets start there first. Leave the friggin soda drinkers & potato chip eaters alone for God's sake. Seriously,what the H*ll has happened to our country?

Apathy, ignorance, and partisanship is what has happened to the Republic.

 

[Si modo]

No one has been engaged in more risky & dangerous behavior than our own Government has in recent years. I say we fine and tax all the incompetent & corrupt politicians who have bankrupted and weakened our nation these last few years. Lets start there first. Leave the friggin soda drinkers & potato chip eaters alone for God's sake. Seriously,what the H*ll has happened to our country?

Apathy, ignorance, and partisanship is what has happened to the Republic.

And the fact that so have been led to believe that their feelings weigh more heavily than their thoughts when it comes to politics - they are ripe for the picking from the politicians and media who only have to appeal to emotion more than report the facts.

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

No one has been engaged in more risky & dangerous behavior than our own Government has in recent years. I say we fine and tax all the incompetent & corrupt politicians who have bankrupted and weakened our nation these last few years. Lets start there first. Leave the friggin soda drinkers & potato chip eaters alone for God's sake. Seriously,what the H*ll has happened to our country?

Apathy, ignorance, and partisanship is what has happened to the Republic.

And the fact that so have been led to believe that their feelings weigh more heavily than their thoughts when it comes to politics - they are ripe for the picking from the politicians and media who only have to appeal to emotion more than report the facts.

Excellent point. I would also like to add that so many Americans are under the misguided notion, that a Republican form of government equates to all things being fair compared to someone else. That is simply not the case. Emotions over principle is a recipe for disaster.

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

Do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't infringe on my constitutional rights. On a personal level, I may not agree with what you do. However, my personal want and desire should not dictate the proper adjudication of the law, whether it be federal, state, or both.

 

[The T]

... With extra taxation, because they are a burden on the medical system and they should PAY for their excesses and risky behavior.

Well....

What about other high-risk activities, such as intravenous drug use, unprotected anal sex --unprotected sex of any kind -- and any other activity that is known to spread AIDS? Shouldn't these folks share the responsibility of the burden their behavior is placing on the system?

Wonder why none of this is addressed in the health care reform proposals?

Discuss.

Bottom line? Once the Government gets their meathooks totally into this are are 100% calling the shots as they want to do? Then all bets are off, and they can tell you what behaviours are acceptable to them.

They will indeed run your life, literally. It's none of their damned business, and this process has to be STOPPED.

After all? Look at what they've already taken over? And it's totally their WAY or the Highway.

 

[Care4all]

Apathy, ignorance, and partisanship is what has happened to the Republic.

And the fact that so have been led to believe that their feelings weigh more heavily than their thoughts when it comes to politics - they are ripe for the picking from the politicians and media who only have to appeal to emotion more than report the facts.

Excellent point. I would also like to add that so many Americans are under the misguided notion, that a Republican form of government equates to all things being fair compared to someone else. That is simply not the case. Emotions over principle is a recipe for disaster.

But ALL men ARE CREATED EQUAL...and we all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...

We also have laws and a JUSTICE system so that things are FAIR AND JUST to ALL men...no one getting special treatment over another, in our Republic....which only means a government without a monarchy....

Our Declaration of independence and our Constitution gives us the guarantees or protection that all men are created equal....we may be born in to poverty or we may be born in to wealth, but this does not stop our government from EQUAL PROTECTION under the law?

I think I am missing what you are trying to say here...we could be saying the same thing??

care

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

And the fact that so have been led to believe that their feelings weigh more heavily than their thoughts when it comes to politics - they are ripe for the picking from the politicians and media who only have to appeal to emotion more than report the facts.

Excellent point. I would also like to add that so many Americans are under the misguided notion, that a Republican form of government equates to all things being fair compared to someone else. That is simply not the case. Emotions over principle is a recipe for disaster.

But ALL men ARE CREATED EQUAL...and we all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...

We also have laws and a JUSTICE system so that things are FAIR AND JUST to ALL men...no one getting special treatment over another, in our Republic....which only means a government without a monarchy....

Our Declaration of independence and our Constitution gives us the guarantees or protection that all men are created equal....we may be born in to poverty or we may be born in to wealth, but this does not stop our government from EQUAL PROTECTION under the law?

I think I am missing what you are trying to say here...we could be saying the same thing??

care

The Declaration of Independence does not give you any lawful protection at all.

The point I am making is this...Neither you nor I have a right to ask the government to take property from someone else, because they have more than us or we want them to use their personal property in a manner we want them to. And is often the case, many people respective of political party try to use the government as a political and financial weapon of equality.

The government is not an insurance company. I am fed up with my fellow Americans, who have the unfounded notion to the contrary.

 

[The T]

Excellent point. I would also like to add that so many Americans are under the misguided notion, that a Republican form of government equates to all things being fair compared to someone else. That is simply not the case. Emotions over principle is a recipe for disaster.

But ALL men ARE CREATED EQUAL...and we all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...

We also have laws and a JUSTICE system so that things are FAIR AND JUST to ALL men...no one getting special treatment over another, in our Republic....which only means a government without a monarchy....

Our Declaration of independence and our Constitution gives us the guarantees or protection that all men are created equal....we may be born in to poverty or we may be born in to wealth, but this does not stop our government from EQUAL PROTECTION under the law?

I think I am missing what you are trying to say here...we could be saying the same thing??

care

The Declaration of Independence does not give you any lawful protection at all.

The point I am making is this...Neither you nor I have a right to ask the government to take property from someone else, because they have more than us or we want them to use their personal property in a manner we want them to. And is often the case, many people respective of political party try to use the government as a political and financial weapon of equality.

The government is not an insurance company. I am fed up with my fellow Americans, who have the unfounded notion to the contrary.

The Declaration was a "Trumpet Call" to King George III of Great Britian, by the Founders that announced their intentions and it explained WHY.

THE Constitution is what solidified The Declaration, and in this discussion, is what counts.

In other words? I agree with YOU.

 

[BasicGreatGuy]

It is very simple. The federal government has no business telling me or anyone else what we can or can't do with our bodies and our personal property. That is a matter for the state government. And as long as I am not infringing on anyone's constitutional rights, I should be left alone.

If someone doesn't have healthcare, that is not my fault. If they want insurance, they can work that out with the respective insurance company or some other entity. It is not my job to provide someone else insurance just because they don't have it and want it.

If someone wants to smoke, drink, do drugs, get fat, or whatever, they can have at it. Don't try and use the federal government as an instrument of force, because you screwed your life up. It is well past time that people started wiping their own butts when they crap all over themselves, instead of having their fellow Americans do it for them by force via the government.

I help people out as I can and as I will. I like doing that. At the same time, I resent the government telling me I have to do thus and thus, because Mary and Joe Sixpack don't like the life they made for themselves. Once again, not my problem.

So many people think that government is making their life better with all these nanny state laws and programs. It isn't. People are enslaving themselves to government. They are telling the government "I don't want to live my life in freedom. Take care of me." When you tell the government that, the government proceeds to take from you all that it can. And people wonder how this Republic has turned into a hellish bastardized government.