Fascinating Womanhood or The Feminine Mystique?

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    Which book & theory do you agree with more?

    In praise of Fascinating Womanhood

    Since reading Helen Andelin's book, Fascinating Womanhood, I feel like I was going through life blindfold, and now, suddenly, I can see. Suddenly, I get it. Suddenly, men don't seem so incomprehensible anymore. Now, it seems obvious to me why things I was doing weren't working, and most important, what does work! I could dance for joy! I used to secretly wish I'd been born a man, but now I absolutely love being a woman.

    Helen Andelin explains how to be what she calls The Ideal Woman From A Man's Point Of View. My understanding of this is that this is a woman who understands men, has inner and radiant happiness, is of good character and a domestic goddess, is radiantly healthy, feminine, and can be childlike to diffuse tension in difficult moments. Andelin divides these traits up in to two sides, which she calls the Angelic (the traits that make you a bit untouchable and put you up on a pedestal) and the Human (the warm, very endearing , attractive traits).

    In praise of Fascinating Womanhood



    Can the problem that has no name be somehow related to the domestic routine of the housewife? When a woman tries to put the problem into words, she often merely describes the daily life she leads. What is there in this recital of comfortable domestic detail that could possibly cause such a feeling of desperation? Is she trapped simply by the enormous demands of her role as modern housewife: wife, mistress, mother, nurse, consumer, cook, chauffeur, expert on interior decoration child care, appliance repair, furniture refinishing, nutrition, and education?

    Her day is fragmented as she rushes from dishwasher to washing machine to telephone to dryer to station wagon to supermarket, and delivers Johnny to the Little League field, takes Janey to dancing class, gets the lawnmower fixed and meets the 6:45. She can never spend more than 15 minutes on any one thing; she has no time to read books, only magazines; even if she had time, she has lost the power to concentrate. At the end of the day, she is so terribly tired that sometimes her husband has to take over and put the children to bed.

    The Feminine Mystique: Chapter 1
     
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    I've never read either one, I'll have to check to see if my library has them.

    Ok, I just checked... my library doesn't have the first 1 and I have read the Feminine Mystique a long time ago I think. I didn't agree with it so much IIRC.
     
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    Very few of the women I have known have been at home domestic servants.

    Most of them worked and worked full time.

    I think any women whose happiness depends entirely on their man is bound to be unhappy.

    FWIW, their men are bound to be unhappy, too, to have that amount of responsibility for the happiness of their mates thust upon them.
     
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    I like your taste in books, chloe.

    Have you read Women Who Run with the Wolves? It's wonderful. A Jungian approach and promotes women's spirituality.

    I find this book, Dakin's Warm Breath, by Judith Simmer Brown to be an inspiring guide.
     
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    perhaps the man in your life finds the first part the idea woman...the man i have does not. he prefers a strong willed, voice and minded woman. of course that causes conflict but i am his partner not his child i am with him due to the wanting and loving not the needing..he likes being able to leave for weeks at a time and not be worried about me...not hear me whining how much i miss him and need him...if he wants a domestic goddess he can damn well hire one...i do believe they have services that provide that..we both come and go as we please with whom we please....we prefer to be equals than one taking the submissive role to please the other....men quickly bore of women who are the "idea woman" or as i call them the chamelons that change their colors depending on their mans mood...what is that...love...i think not...love allows one to grow and be....
     
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    I don't have a man in my life, unless you count Jeffree (my gay pal). Sometimes he does seem like he swings both ways....last time we hung out he told me when he's drunk he likes to make out with girls and showed me something inappropriate....YIKES!
     
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    Someone gave me that book Women who run with wolves but I never read it. Maybe I'll dig it up. I found the Fascinating WOmanhood book at a thrift shop called Deseret Industries, and it seemed to say just the opposite of the Feminine Mystique. They were written around the 60's & 70's. Things are a lot different now.
     
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    why worry about making men happy...worry about making yourself happy....the other stuff will fall into place...
     
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    true:razz:
     
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    I read the, Feminine Mystique, way back when. I think geared more to my mom's generation than mine or younger. Published in early 60's.

    Haven't ever heard of, In Praise of Fascinating Womanhood, though it sounds comparable to, The Total Woman, which was published I think in the 70's. Polar opposites.

    Quite unbelievably, I found a review that mention both books, there are links at site:

    The Total Woman, by Marabel Morgan: a book review

     

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