Farmer on NPR said he couldn't find an American who would pick fruit...

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    Taxes are variable production costs? Farmer's profit is a variable production cost? Outbuildings are a variable production cost? Not likely. BUT IN ANY CASE, the labor in the field is a negligible portion of the price the consumer pays in the store. You, NPR, and that farmer, each for his own reasons, feels the need misinform the American people apparently.
     
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    Government isn't the problem, some of us are.
     
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    So it's even less than a nickel? Wow, if it went up to a nickel, that would be the end of salads in America.
     
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    And I don't want to get into this "spending" malarky again. With any of them. TARP was added in, stimulus was baked in and they just left spending at that level all through ears term. Before the manufactured the housing crunch.....spending was closer to $2T. Then all hell broke loose and "never let a crisis go to waste"...8 years.
     
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    I wonder how the Japanese manage to feed themselves at all. High wage country. No immigrants. It must be impossible to get a fruit or vegetable in Japan, huh, strawman?
     
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    Gilroy is a Silicon Valley bedroom community (35 miles south of SJ) where median house cost is close to $650K. Rent is close to $2000/mo for almost anything.


    It is seaonal. I was ASSuming WASH (home of the apple up in the Yakima Valley). Gas is closer to $3.50 along the interstates. Maybe they go 2000 miles? Or more. at 20MPG that is 100 gallons. Round trip. I was even thinking of a Flight........hence the $2000 round trip. This also includes food and whatever.

    Why is it Tax free income? I keep hearing these "workers" pay taxes. They did pay ~$0.50/Gallon when they drove through "uninsured". Does the old Pontiac need tires and brakes? probably. another $1000. The apples are gone in time? Or do they ripen all year long? What do they do? Live in the car? They pull up a Trailer?
     
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    I had this discussion a few years back; it actually works out to a number in the 10ths of a cent per pound on many crops. Still looking for the link on the lettuce, though, but some can find it and others by Googling. Tripling the pay wouldn't add as much as 1 cent to most crops' retail price; maybe to wine grapes or something else equally useless.
     
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    Yes. I used to live in Sunnyvale doing contract work at a couple of companies near that 'America' something or other amusement park, and from there to Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore for a couple of years, then from there to Portland, Or. for 8 months or so.

    The majority are hired by 'labor contractors', not directly by the farmers; these 'contractors' allegedly withhold the payroll taxes and stuff, but it's highly unlikely they ever actually pay a dime to the govt.
     
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    Indeed; same for Singapore. As I said earlier, automation goes on regardless of wage levels, and that included fast food chains. Labor costs are a small percentage of costs. Employers would whine and cry over paying 2 cents an hour. The labor racketeers bought themselves NAFTA from Congress,$1.50 an hour there, and not a decade later many of those jobs left Mexico for Red China and Viet Nam for 25 cents an hour, complete with all the tax subsidies and perks for shipping the jobs over there. It's a race to the bottom. Left wing Democrats and right wing Republicans all work for the same corporations, they all support racketeering, and they loves them some commies; they have the same hate for workers as Democrats and 'globalists' do.
     
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    Make labor expensive enough and it'll be more economical to ship broken robots back to India for repair. So there go the 5,000 jobs that went to some of the 500,000 automation-displaced when those lucky 5,000 retrained to fix robots.
     
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