Fantastic, Prescient 1948 Cartoon: A Must See!

[PoliticalChic]

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I'm going to show this to my children...and to the children on the USMB.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Here is a copy free of the audio editorials .
Dr Utopia's cure all "Ism"

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Make Mine Freedom (1948)[/ame]

 

[rightwinger]

I have seen this in the past........For the time, it provides a very good perspective

Better than what we get out of the right wing today

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The money shot comes @ 8:25

 

[midcan5]

I missed the prescience? Those words, where they are accurate, are still accurate.

You may want to suggest that to the Texas legislator as they want an equally watered-down history. I like how they missed the natives, slavery, sweatshops, child labor, working conditions, financial hooligans, pollution, auto gridlock, senseless war deficits, depression, and environmental spoilage, but hey, if that is your dream, enjoy it.

This view of America is at least a bit real.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA]YouTube - American Stories, American Solutions: 30 Minute Special[/ame]



"On moral grounds, then, we could argue for a flat income tax of 90 percent to return that wealth to its real owners. In the United States, even a flat tax of 70 percent would support all governmental programs (about half the total tax) and allow payment, with the remainder, of a patrimony of about $8,000 per annum per inhabitant, or $25,000 for a family of three. This would generously leave with the original recipients of the income about three times what, according to my rough guess, they had earned." UBI and the Flat Tax

 

[PoliticalChic]

I missed the prescience? Those words, where they are accurate, are still accurate.

You may want to suggest that to the Texas legislator as they want an equally watered-down history. I like how they missed the natives, slavery, sweatshops, child labor, working conditions, financial hooligans, pollution, auto gridlock, senseless war deficits, depression, and environmental spoilage, but hey, if that is your dream, enjoy it.

This view of America is at least a bit real.

YouTube - American Stories, American Solutions: 30 Minute Special



"On moral grounds, then, we could argue for a flat income tax of 90 percent to return that wealth to its real owners. In the United States, even a flat tax of 70 percent would support all governmental programs (about half the total tax) and allow payment, with the remainder, of a patrimony of about $8,000 per annum per inhabitant, or $25,000 for a family of three. This would generously leave with the original recipients of the income about three times what, according to my rough guess, they had earned." UBI and the Flat Tax

While you may hide from it, the 'isms' are those of the left, communism, progressivism, libealism...you know, the ones that honor the collective over the individual.

From “The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression,” which is a compilation of research edited by French scholar Stephane Courtois, totals over 100 million victims of Communist murder during the 20th Century.

"[Paul Hollander] is best known for his now-classic book Political Pilgrims, which examined the phenomenon of twentieth-century Western intellectuals who allowed themselves to be seduced and duped by radical revolutionary regimes of the most patent despotism and brutality. How and why did so many intelligent, cultivated, and educated people come to believe such obvious nonsense? Pilgrims was a tragicomic study of how the cherished ideas of the self-important can so easily overwhelm their common sense, and how education can serve to blind as well as to enlighten."
Between Experience and Reflection by Theodore Dalrymple, City Journal 27 April 2009


"...since the publication of The Black Book of Communism, there are no excuses for not knowing the truth about Communism. I would go further and say that there have been no excuses since the liquidation of the kulaks."
Closed Minds by Claire Berlinski, City Journal 18 May 2010

 

[PoliticalChic]

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I'm going to show this to my children...and to the children on the USMB.

This was initiated in politics, not humor.

Whoever moved it, please replace it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I have seen this in the past........For the time, it provides a very good perspective

Better than what we get out of the right wing today

I'm sure you realize that the 'isms' are those that place a higher value on the collective rather than the individual...

Those would be Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Progressivism, Liberalism....

as opposed to Conservativism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I missed the prescience? Those words, where they are accurate, are still accurate.

You may want to suggest that to the Texas legislator as they want an equally watered-down history. I like how they missed the natives, slavery, sweatshops, child labor, working conditions, financial hooligans, pollution, auto gridlock, senseless war deficits, depression, and environmental spoilage, but hey, if that is your dream, enjoy it.

This view of America is at least a bit real.

YouTube - American Stories, American Solutions: 30 Minute Special



"On moral grounds, then, we could argue for a flat income tax of 90 percent to return that wealth to its real owners. In the United States, even a flat tax of 70 percent would support all governmental programs (about half the total tax) and allow payment, with the remainder, of a patrimony of about $8,000 per annum per inhabitant, or $25,000 for a family of three. This would generously leave with the original recipients of the income about three times what, according to my rough guess, they had earned." UBI and the Flat Tax

What total nonsense.

I believe in the 'gates test' for nations and societies.

When the gates are lifted, to folks run in or out?



Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan:
"We are the oldest continuing democracy in the world. . . . We don't make refugees, we admit them. When the rich of the world get sick, they come here to be treated, and when their children come of age, they send them here to our universities. We have a supple political system open to reform, and a wildly diverse culture that has moments of stress but plenty of give. . . . The point is that while terrible challenges face us -- improving a sick public education system, ending the easy-money culture, rebuilding the economy -- we are building from an extraordinary, brilliant, and enduring base."

 

[paperview]

While you may hide from it, the 'isms' are those of the left...

O dear lord. Now a common suffix is a diabolical left device.

I swear. Where do you people come from?

 

[boedicca]

Fabulous! In less than 10 minutes it does a better job explaining Americna Values than do most school textbooks these days.

 

[boedicca]

While you may hide from it, the 'isms' are those of the left...

O dear lord. Now a common suffix is a diabolical left device.

I swear. Where do you people come from?

It kinda sucks when your con game is outed, doesn't it?

 

[paperview]

While you may hide from it, the 'isms' are those of the left...

O dear lord. Now a common suffix is a diabolical left device.

I swear. Where do you people come from?

It kinda sucks when your con game is outed, doesn't it?

...said the con.

 

[PoliticalChic]

While you may hide from it, the 'isms' are those of the left...

O dear lord. Now a common suffix is a diabolical left device.

I swear. Where do you people come from?

It is soooo difficult to address a subject in a succinct manner when one is dealing with an individual who knows so little about the subject.

If you had any scholarhip in this area, the cartoon references to totalist regimes would be evident.

Totalists: communism, nazism, fascism, progressivism, modern liberalism.

Pick up a book now and then.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Like pornography, I know propaganda when I see/hear/read it. The 'cartoon' is not the propaganda, the overtalk and the spin by PC is defintely so.
Of course totalistarianism is anathema to freedom loving human beings, but to compare regulation of markets and products via a democratic process with central planning and authoritarianism is nothing more than opinion, and proselytizing the dogma of lassiez faire capitalism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Like pornography, I know propaganda when I see/hear/read it. The 'cartoon' is not the propaganda, the overtalk and the spin by PC is defintely so.
Of course totalistarianism is anathema to freedom loving human beings, but to compare regulation of markets and products via a democratic process with central planning and authoritarianism is nothing more than opinion, and proselytizing the dogma of lassiez faire capitalism.

"Of course totalistarianism is anathema to freedom loving human beings, "
Perfect...you should have stopped here.

But, see how you stuck your foot in it:
"...via a democratic process with central planning and authoritarianism is nothing more than opinion..."

The first Progressive President was Woodrow Wilson, but a case could be made for TR as such.

Let's go over some of those 'democratic processes.'...

1."...Wilson’s two terms in office provide the clearest historical window into the soul of progressivism. Wilson’s racism, his ideological rigidity, and his antipathy toward the Constitution were all products of the progressive worldview. And since “progressivism” is suddenly in vogue – today’s leading Democrats proudly wear the label – it’s worth actually reviewing what progressivism was and what actually happened under the last full-throated progressive president.
The record should give sober pause to anyone who’s mesmerized by the progressive promise."
The First “Progressive” President - Transterrestrial Musings

2. Woodrow Wilson: “Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals.” Did you see that portrayed in the cartoon. Hint: look for the blue arm.

3.Trotsky sensed that the American president shared the Bolsheviks’ hatred of European imperialism; when Trotsky coined the now famous concept of the “fellow traveler,” he was referring to Wilson.
1919: Betrayal and the Birth of Modern Liberalism by Fred Siegel, City Journal 22 November 2009

4. 3. The first true [fascist] enterprise of this kind was established in the in the United States under the 20th century’s first fascist dictator: Woodrow Wilson. During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.
a. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry
b. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.
c. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream
d. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government
e. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war
f. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues
g. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters
h. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9

5. Wilson wrote in “The State,” 1889, that "Government does now whatever experience permits or the times demand." Let me translate for you: there are no restrictions on government, Constitutional or otherwise.
Did you see that in the cartoon after the folks drank the 'isms'? Maybe you should watch it again.

6. How's this for democratic process: “No doubt a lot of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle.” Woodrow Wilson: ‘Men are as clay in the hands of a consummate leader.? | The North Star National

And in case you think 'that was then, this is now,' it is quite easy to find Sec'y Clinton, President Obama, etc. claiming 'early 19th century' Progressives as their provenance.

So, friend, it appears to me that it is not 'the spin by PC' if I can prove it, right?

Care to retract?

 

[paperview]

While you may hide from it, the 'isms' are those of the left...

O dear lord. Now a common suffix is a diabolical left device.

I swear. Where do you people come from?

It is soooo difficult to address a subject in a succinct manner when one is dealing with an individual who knows so little about the subject.

If you had any scholarhip in this area, the cartoon references to totalist regimes would be evident.

Totalists: communism, nazism, fascism, progressivism, modern liberalism.

Pick up a book now and then.

It's so hard having a conversation with a Political Chic who thinks she's a know it all bitch.

 

[PoliticalChic]

O dear lord. Now a common suffix is a diabolical left device.

I swear. Where do you people come from?

It is soooo difficult to address a subject in a succinct manner when one is dealing with an individual who knows so little about the subject.

If you had any scholarhip in this area, the cartoon references to totalist regimes would be evident.

Totalists: communism, nazism, fascism, progressivism, modern liberalism.

Pick up a book now and then.

It's so hard having a conversation with a Political Chic who thinks she's a know it all bitch.

I always consider it a point for me when the post is anti-me and not a counter point to something I wrote.

As above.

But I love to fight...

C'mon...take another shot: for free! Where am I wrong?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Like pornography, I know propaganda when I see/hear/read it. The 'cartoon' is not the propaganda, the overtalk and the spin by PC is defintely so.
Of course totalistarianism is anathema to freedom loving human beings, but to compare regulation of markets and products via a democratic process with central planning and authoritarianism is nothing more than opinion, and proselytizing the dogma of lassiez faire capitalism.

"Of course totalistarianism is anathema to freedom loving human beings, "
Perfect...you should have stopped here.

But, see how you stuck your foot in it:
"...via a democratic process with central planning and authoritarianism is nothing more than opinion..."

The first Progressive President was Woodrow Wilson, but a case could be made for TR as such.

Let's go over some of those 'democratic processes.'...

1."...Wilson’s two terms in office provide the clearest historical window into the soul of progressivism. Wilson’s racism, his ideological rigidity, and his antipathy toward the Constitution were all products of the progressive worldview. And since “progressivism” is suddenly in vogue – today’s leading Democrats proudly wear the label – it’s worth actually reviewing what progressivism was and what actually happened under the last full-throated progressive president.
The record should give sober pause to anyone who’s mesmerized by the progressive promise."
The First “Progressive” President - Transterrestrial Musings

2. Woodrow Wilson: “Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals.” Did you see that portrayed in the cartoon. Hint: look for the blue arm.

3.Trotsky sensed that the American president shared the Bolsheviks’ hatred of European imperialism; when Trotsky coined the now famous concept of the “fellow traveler,” he was referring to Wilson.
1919: Betrayal and the Birth of Modern Liberalism by Fred Siegel, City Journal 22 November 2009

4. 3. The first true [fascist] enterprise of this kind was established in the in the United States under the 20th century’s first fascist dictator: Woodrow Wilson. During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.
a. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry
b. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.
c. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream
d. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government
e. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war
f. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues
g. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters
h. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9

5. Wilson wrote in “The State,” 1889, that "Government does now whatever experience permits or the times demand." Let me translate for you: there are no restrictions on government, Constitutional or otherwise.
Did you see that in the cartoon after the folks drank the 'isms'? Maybe you should watch it again.

6. How's this for democratic process: “No doubt a lot of nonsense has been talked about the inalienable rights of the individual, and a great deal that was mere vague sentiment and pleasing speculation has been put forward as fundamental principle.” Woodrow Wilson: ‘Men are as clay in the hands of a consummate leader.? | The North Star National

And in case you think 'that was then, this is now,' it is quite easy to find Sec'y Clinton, President Obama, etc. claiming 'early 19th century' Progressives as their provenance.

So, friend, it appears to me that it is not 'the spin by PC' if I can prove it, right?

Care to retract?

I stopped reading when you chose not to quote me accurately ("But, see how you stuck your foot in it:"):
"...via a democratic process with central planning and authoritarianism is nothing more than opinion..."
Would you care to post the entire quote as written, or let it stand and convince me you're dishonest?

 

[paperview]

It is soooo difficult to address a subject in a succinct manner when one is dealing with an individual who knows so little about the subject.

If you had any scholarhip in this area, the cartoon references to totalist regimes would be evident.

Totalists: communism, nazism, fascism, progressivism, modern liberalism.

Pick up a book now and then.

It's so hard having a conversation with a Political Chic who thinks she's a know it all bitch.

I always consider it a point for me when the post is anti-me and not a counter point to something I wrote.

As above.

But I love to fight...

C'mon...take another shot: for free! Where am I wrong?

I give back what I get. You toss out the ad hominems at me, you get them in return.