Famous Liberals in our history

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Caesar didn't think he was a god. Where do you get this crap? Is George Washington a god because he's on the dollar bill? Get real.


"Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's"


Basically put, that means you are to operate under the laws of the empire. Respect the laws of man and practice your philosophies within the confines of those laws.

There were Caesar's that thought they were God's.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Both are right:

Roman Gods - Divine Emperors
The nature of Roman gods expanded again as the Roman Empire came into contact with the belief of divine kingship. At first, the Romans rejected the idea that a human ruler should be worshiped as a god. In 44 BC, Julius Caesar permitted a statue of himself with the inscription, "The unvanquished god," and declared himself dictator for life. That same year, Julius Caesar was killed by citizens who wanted to see Rome return to its earlier republican ideas. Caesar's heir, Octavian (Augustus), made himself the first emperor of Rome. However, he avoided any claim to being divine. In fact, the notion that the emperor was divine was ridiculed throughout much of the 1st century AD.

However, as the government of the Roman Empire became more autocratic and gave rulers almost unlimited power, emperors eventually accepted divine honors. This belief in the emperor's divine authority eventually led to the requirement of a sacrifice to the emperor as a sign of loyalty. The requirement of a sacrifice to the emperor became a significant source of conflict with early Christians. Christians refused to worship the emperor as god, and therefore, would not sacrifice to him. This led to persecution of the Christians by the Roman political authorities that enforced the practice. The period of worshiping Roman emperors as gods continued until the 4th century AD, when Emperor Constantine the Great became the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity. In 392 AD, Emperor Theodosius I banned the practice of pagan religions in Rome altogether.

Roman Gods

 

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2.Because Religion be exempt from the authority of the Society at large, still less can it be subject to that of the Legislative Body. The latter are but the creatures and vicegerents of the former. Their jurisdiction is both derivative and limited: it is limited with regard to the co-ordinate departments, more necessarily is it limited with regard to the constituents. The preservation of a free Government requires not merely, that the metes and bounds which separate each department of power be invariably maintained; but more especially that neither of them be suffered to overleap the great Barrier which defends the rights of the people. The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment, exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The People who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by themselves nor by an authority derived from them, and are slaves.
3.Because it is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of Citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The free men of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entagled the question in precedents.
-James Madison.

The Government does not have the moral authority to allow Us anything, that we did not first surrender to It. Wake up.

 

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“As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.”
-*George Washington

yeah, and hes not talking about socialism ya stupid shit.

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government

So it seems Washington foresaw the plight of blacks, native americans, women and gays.....Way to go George!

Washington pretty much let Hamilton run wild with his dreams of Empire, and did not pay the attention he should have to the affairs of State.

 

[Fatality]

Caesar didn't think he was a god. Where do you get this crap? Is George Washington a god because he's on the dollar bill? Get real.


"Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's"


Basically put, that means you are to operate under the laws of the empire. Respect the laws of man and practice your philosophies within the confines of those laws.

youre dumb as dirt. another armchair theologian speaks, more prattle results.

 

[Oddball]

how so?

Jesus spoke constantly about taking care of the poor and not judging others .....

interestingly enough, he said not one word about homosexuality.

Jesus was a liberal. Actually, politically, Jesus was a radical, fighting the power of the San Hedrin which he feld dishonored true Judaism.

the armchair theologian speaks...nothing but prattle

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nice! thanx armchair theologian

Nothing like the tolerance, open-mindedness and non-judgementalness of the left, huh??

 

[Fatality]

the armchair theologian speaks...nothing but prattle

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nice! thanx armchair theologian

Nothing like the tolerance, open-mindedness and non-judgementalness of the left, huh??

shes a real charmer

 

[Oddball]

Did Jesus ever say anything about how a state should be run?

actually, he said give unto caesar....

After "I am my brother's keeper", the most willfully misinterpreted and taken-out-of-context passage in scripture.

he was more concerned with the politicization of religion....

he'd have just loved jerry falwell and company.

This entire thread -via placing Christ as the #1 liberal and your arguing in favor of that ranking- is the epitome of politicizing religion.

Holy Freudian projection, Batman!!!!

 

[Fatality]

“As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.”
-*George Washington

yeah, and hes not talking about socialism ya stupid shit.

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government

So it seems Washington foresaw the plight of blacks, native americans, women and gays.....Way to go George!

so you mean youve changed you views that George was just an old rich white opressive slave owner? there may be hope for you yet, but you still have a long way to go, nice first step.

 

[DiveCon]

how so?

Jesus spoke constantly about taking care of the poor and not judging others .....

interestingly enough, he said not one word about homosexuality.

Jesus was a liberal. Actually, politically, Jesus was a radical, fighting the power of the San Hedrin which he feld dishonored true Judaism.

the armchair theologian speaks...nothing but prattle

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nice! thanx armchair theologian

man, thats a pussy thing to do
thats whining about a neg rep

 

[rightwinger]

yeah, and hes not talking about socialism ya stupid shit.

As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government

So it seems Washington foresaw the plight of blacks, native americans, women and gays.....Way to go George!

so you mean youve changed you views that George was just an old rich white opressive slave owner? there may be hope for you yet, but you still have a long way to go, nice first step.

He was also a LIBERAL

 

[Fatality]

So it seems Washington foresaw the plight of blacks, native americans, women and gays.....Way to go George!

so you mean youve changed you views that George was just an old rich white opressive slave owner? there may be hope for you yet, but you still have a long way to go, nice first step.

He was also a LIBERAL

and NOT a socialist, like you

 

[Cecilie1200]

Did Jesus ever say anything about how a state should be run?

Not that I recall. He seemed to have some pretty crazy ideas about personal responsibility and individual compassion and charity. He was strangely silent on the topic of group morality.

 

[rightwinger]

so you mean youve changed you views that George was just an old rich white opressive slave owner? there may be hope for you yet, but you still have a long way to go, nice first step.

He was also a LIBERAL

and NOT a socialist, like you

Love our right wing name calling

20 years ago they were calling you a communist
5 years ago they were calling you a liberal
Now they call you a socialist

They don't know what any of these words mean but they just like to call names

 

[KittenKoder]

No one on that list is a modern liberal, the word has changed now, modern liberals are socialists, as Fatality said.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Did Jesus ever say anything about how a state should be run?

actually, he said give unto caesar....

After "I am my brother's keeper", the most willfully misinterpreted and taken-out-of-context passage in scripture.

he was more concerned with the politicization of religion....

he'd have just loved jerry falwell and company.

This entire thread -via placing Christ as the #1 liberal and your arguing in favor of that ranking- is the epitome of politicizing religion.

Holy Freudian projection, Batman!!!!

Let us not forget "Judge not lest ye be judged." My vote for Number One misunderstood quote in the Bible.

 

[Oddball]

man, thats a pussy thing to do
thats whining about a neg rep

However true, that brand of negging (saying what you haven't the courage to say on the open boards) is amongst the lowest form of cowardice.

 

[DiveCon]

man, thats a pussy thing to do
thats whining about a neg rep

However true, that brand of negging (saying what you haven't the courage to say on the open boards) is amongst the lowest form of cowardice.

meh, just dont whine about it

 

[DiveCon]

So it seems Washington foresaw the plight of blacks, native americans, women and gays.....Way to go George!

so you mean youve changed you views that George was just an old rich white opressive slave owner? there may be hope for you yet, but you still have a long way to go, nice first step.

He was also a LIBERAL

didnt he own slaves?
i know a few on your list did

 

[rightwinger]

so you mean youve changed you views that George was just an old rich white opressive slave owner? there may be hope for you yet, but you still have a long way to go, nice first step.

He was also a LIBERAL

didnt he own slaves?
i know a few on your list did

Martha Washington owned slaves when they got married. They were freed upon Washingtons death