Discussion in 'Politics' started by VaYank5150, Aug 14, 2009.
Seven Falsehoods About Health Care Reform | Newsweek Politics | Newsweek.com
if your DUmb guy had been smart he would have had all this stuff ironed out and clarified and explained before he tried his cram down! but,, he wasn't smart.
If you idiots could READ, or more accurately cared enough to read, as opposed to employing fear mongering, lying and obstructionist tactics, we would not even be discussing this now would we. Just look how stupid you idiots look now.
we are not the leader, he is,, and one of your own DUmb Democrats congresscritter said he can't read it either, but the dumbazz is gonna sign it.. good for the party of KNOW to obstruct something as idiotic as what you are trying to cram down
The Associated Press: Bill Clinton: GOP promotes fear over health care
Bill Clinton: GOP promotes fear over health care
By DAN NEPHIN (AP) – 12 hours ago
PITTSBURGH — Republicans have turned to terrifying people in the debate over overhauling the health care system because the GOP has no political clout to fight it, former President Bill Clinton told a gathering of progressive bloggers on Thursday.
Clinton was president when the Democrats made their last major effort to change the health care system. The big difference now, Clinton said, is that Democrats have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate as well as control of the House.
The former president called "crazy" the charges that promoting living wills and other end-of-life planning is somehow promoting death.
Clinton spoke at the opening session of the Netroots Nation convention, a gathering of politically progressive bloggers and other online activists.
He urged the crowd to support President Barack Obama on health care reform, along with climate change legislation and other reforms.
"The president needs your help and the cause needs your help," Clinton said. "We have to preserve this progress majority now."
However, he advised them that change may not come as fast as they want and that they may have to accept smaller victories as they continue to work for their goals.
Clinton said that it was all right to hold politicians' feet to the fire in terms of their promises but that it should be done to get work done.
"You hold the seeds of a genuine revolution in our public life and you do it by mobilizing people and generating emotion but also by getting people to think," Clinton told the gathering.
He said the United States had entered a new age of progressive politics that could last several decades in the right circumstances.
On a lighter note, Clinton joked that the great thing about being a former president was being able to whatever he wanted. The terrible thing was that no one listens, "unless your wife is secretary of state, then they really care."
It was an apparent reference to the fuss made over Hillary Rodham Clinton's rebuke earlier this week to a Congolese student in Kinshasa who asked her for the opinion of her husband about an international economic issue.
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All that section of the bill does is 'offers' voluntary counseling, as to whether any unusual measures will be taken to prolong your life.
IT offers to pay for it. The talk is between you, and the doctor of your choice, and you can then choose to be hooked up to tubes, or whatever, and lay in bed an extra five years, with zero quality of life, and then die anyway.
Why is it the religious people always seem the most afriad of crossing over? Maybe they feel they've been bad, and are going to burn in hell because of their selfish opinions, I don't know.
Once again, it is totally voluntary, you can choose the doctor, and then YOU decide what to do.
So, what's the problem with that? If God wants you to die, then really hooking yourself up to all these machines is the unnatural thing, and by the way, puts an incredible burden on your family too.
Because the GOP "base" equate voluntarily to mandatory, is the only thing I can come up with....
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