FALLUJAH murder pictures...GRAPHIC(democrats and whiney-assed liberals beware)

Powell said the WMD issue he presented may have been flawed. Obviously. We haven't found any WMD. But, the al-Qaeda link is fully there, while still murky. The terrorism link is overwhelming.

We know the words "Osama bin Laden" were whited out by Iraqi officials on documents. After the Gulf War, Saddam decided it was in his best interest to ally himself with radical networks, to work against Israel and America, covertly, without his fingerprints. Saddam didn't do 9/11, no. But he was a terrorist.

* Abdul Rahman Yasin was the only member of the al Qaeda cell that detonated the 1993 World Trade Center bomb to remain at large in the Clinton years. He fled to Iraq. U.S. forces recently discovered a cache of documents in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, that show that Iraq gave Mr. Yasin both a house and monthly salary.

* Bin Laden met at least eight times with officers of Iraq's Special Security Organization, a secret police agency run by Saddam's son Qusay, and met with officials from Saddam's mukhabarat, its external intelligence service, according to intelligence made public by Secretary of State Colin Powell, who was speaking before the United Nations Security Council on February 6, 2003.

* Sudanese intelligence officials told me that their agents had observed meetings between Iraqi intelligence agents and bin Laden starting in 1994, when bin Laden lived in Khartoum.

* Bin Laden met the director of the Iraqi mukhabarat in 1996 in Khartoum, according to Mr. Powell.

* An al Qaeda operative now held by the U.S. confessed that in the mid-1990s, bin Laden had forged an agreement with Saddam's men to cease all terrorist activities against the Iraqi dictator, Mr. Powell told the United Nations.

* In 1999 the Guardian, a British newspaper, reported that Farouk Hijazi, a senior officer in Iraq's mukhabarat, had journeyed deep into the icy mountains near Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 1998 to meet with al Qaeda men. Mr. Hijazi is "thought to have offered bin Laden asylum in Iraq," the Guardian reported.

* In October 2000, another Iraqi intelligence operative, Salah Suleiman, was arrested near the Afghan border by Pakistani authorities, according to Jane's Foreign Report, a respected international newsletter. Jane's reported that Suleiman was shuttling between Iraqi intelligence and Ayman al Zawahiri, now al Qaeda's No. 2 man.

(Why are all of those meetings significant? The London Observer reports that FBI investigators cite a captured al Qaeda field manual in Afghanistan, which "emphasizes the value of conducting discussions about pending terrorist attacks face to face, rather than by electronic means.")

* As recently as 2001, Iraq's embassy in Pakistan was used as a "liaison" between the Iraqi dictator and al Qaeda, Mr. Powell told the United Nations.

* Spanish investigators have uncovered documents seized from Yusuf Galan -- who is charged by a Spanish court with being "directly involved with the preparation and planning" of the Sept. 11 attacks -- that show the terrorist was invited to a party at the Iraqi embassy in Madrid. The invitation used his "al Qaeda nom de guerre," London's Independent reports.

* An Iraqi defector to Turkey, known by his cover name as "Abu Mohammed," told Gwynne Roberts of the Sunday Times of London that he saw bin Laden's fighters in camps in Iraq in 1997. At the time, Mohammed was a colonel in Saddam's Fedayeen. He described an encounter at Salman Pak, the training facility southeast of Baghdad. At that vast compound run by Iraqi intelligence, Muslim militants trained to hijack planes with knives -- on a full-size Boeing 707. Col. Mohammed recalls his first visit to Salman Pak this way: "We were met by Colonel Jamil Kamil, the camp manager, and Major Ali Hawas. I noticed that a lot of people were queuing for food. (The major) said to me: 'You'll have nothing to do with these people. They are Osama bin Laden's group and the PKK and Mojahedin-e Khalq.'"

* In 1998, Abbas al-Janabi, a longtime aide to Saddam's son Uday, defected to the West. At the time, he repeatedly told reporters that there was a direct connection between Iraq and al Qaeda.

*The Sunday Times found a Saddam loyalist in a Kurdish prison who claims to have been Dr. Zawahiri's bodyguard during his 1992 visit with Saddam in Baghdad. Dr. Zawahiri was a close associate of bin Laden at the time and was present at the founding of al Qaeda in 1989.

* Following the defeat of the Taliban, almost two dozen bin Laden associates "converged on Baghdad and established a base of operations there," Mr. Powell told the United Nations in February 2003. From their Baghdad base, the secretary said, they supervised the movement of men, materiel and money for al Qaeda's global network.

* In 2001, an al Qaeda member "bragged that the situation in Iraq was 'good,'" according to intelligence made public by Mr. Powell.

* That same year, Saudi Arabian border guards arrested two al Qaeda members entering the kingdom from Iraq.

* Abu Musaab al-Zarqawi oversaw an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, Mr. Powell told the United Nations. His specialty was poisons. Wounded in fighting with U.S. forces, he sought medical treatment in Baghdad in May 2002. When Zarqawi recovered, he restarted a training camp in northern Iraq. Zarqawi's Iraq cell was later tied to the October 2002 murder of Lawrence Foley, an official of the U.S. Agency for International Development, in Amman, Jordan. The captured assassin confessed that he received orders and funds from Zarqawi's cell in Iraq, Mr. Powell said. His accomplice escaped to Iraq.

*Zarqawi met with military chief of al Qaeda, Mohammed Ibrahim Makwai (aka Saif al-Adel) in Iran in February 2003, according to intelligence sources cited by the Washington Post.

* Mohammad Atef, the head of al Qaeda's military wing until the U.S. killed him in Afghanistan in November 2001, told a senior al Qaeda member now in U.S. custody that the terror network needed labs outside of Afghanistan to manufacture chemical weapons, Mr. Powell said. "Where did they go, where did they look?" said the secretary. "They went to Iraq."

* Abu Abdullah al-Iraqi was sent to Iraq by bin Laden to purchase poison gases several times between 1997 and 2000. He called his relationship with Saddam's regime "successful," Mr. Powell told the United Nations.

* Mohamed Mansour Shahab, a smuggler hired by Iraq to transport weapons to bin Laden in Afghanistan, was arrested by anti-Hussein Kurdish forces in May, 2000. He later told his story to American intelligence and a reporter for the New Yorker magazine.

* Documents found among the debris of the Iraqi Intelligence Center show that Baghdad funded the Allied Democratic Forces, a Ugandan terror group led by an Islamist cleric linked to bin Laden. According to a London's Daily Telegraph, the organization offered to recruit "youth to train for the jihad" at a "headquarters for international holy warrior network" to be established in Baghdad.

* Mullah Melan Krekar, ran a terror group (the Ansar al-Islam) linked to both bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Mr. Krekar admitted to a Kurdish newspaper that he met bin Laden in Afghanistan and other senior al Qaeda officials. His acknowledged meetings with bin Laden go back to 1988. When he organized Ansar al Islam in 2001 to conduct suicide attacks on Americans, "three bin Laden operatives showed up with a gift of $300,000 'to undertake jihad,'" Newsday reported. Mr. Krekar is now in custody in the Netherlands. His group operated in portion of northern Iraq loyal to Saddam Hussein -- and attacked independent Kurdish groups hostile to Saddam. A spokesman for the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan told a United Press International correspondent that Mr. Krekar's group was funded by "Saddam Hussein's regime in Baghdad."

* After October 2001, hundreds of al Qaeda fighters are believed to have holed up in the Ansar al-Islam's strongholds inside northern Iraq.

Some skeptics dismiss the emerging evidence of a longstanding link between Iraq and al Qaeda by contending that Saddam ran a secular dictatorship hated by Islamists like bin Laden.

In fact, there are plenty of "Stalin-Roosevelt" partnerships between international terrorists and Muslim dictators. Saddam and bin Laden had common enemies, common purposes and interlocking needs. They shared a powerful hate for America and the Saudi royal family. They both saw the Gulf War as a turning point. Saddam suffered a crushing defeat which he had repeatedly vowed to avenge. Bin Laden regards the U.S. as guilty of war crimes against Iraqis and believes that non-Muslims shouldn't have military bases on the holy sands of Arabia. Al Qaeda's avowed goal for the past ten years has been the removal of American forces from Saudi Arabia, where they stood in harm's way solely to contain Saddam.

The most compelling reason for bin Laden to work with Saddam is money. Al Qaeda operatives have testified in federal courts that the terror network was always desperate for cash. Senior employees fought bitterly about the $100 difference in pay between Egyptian and Saudis (the Egyptians made more). One al Qaeda member, who was connected to the 1998 embassy bombings, told a U.S. federal court how bitter he was that bin Laden could not pay for his pregnant wife to see a doctor.

Bin Laden's personal wealth alone simply is not enough to support a profligate global organization. Besides, bin Laden's fortune is probably not as large as some imagine. Informed estimates put bin Laden's pre-Sept. 11, 2001 wealth at perhaps $30 million. $30 million is the budget of a small school district, not a global terror conglomerate. Meanwhile, Forbes estimated Saddam's personal fortune at $2 billion.

So a common enemy, a shared goal and powerful need for cash seem to have forged an alliance between Saddam and bin Laden. CIA Director George Tenet recently told the Senate Intelligence Committee: "Iraq has in the past provided training in document forgery and bomb making to al Qaeda. It also provided training in poisons and gasses to two al Qaeda associates; one of these [al Qaeda] associates characterized the relationship as successful. Mr. Chairman, this information is based on a solid foundation of intelligence. It comes to us from credible and reliable sources. Much of it is corroborated by multiple sources."

The Iraqis, who had the Third World's largest poison-gas operations prior to the Gulf War I, have perfected the technique of making hydrogen-cyanide gas, which the Nazis called Zyklon-B. In the hands of al Qaeda, this would be a fearsome weapon in an enclosed space -- like a suburban mall or subway station.
 
CNN posted an article on 04/03/04: Powell admitted that the evidence presented before the UN was not trueful!
 
>>>Please pull your head out of GWB's ass. Iraq will never be a free society because the Iraqis aren't fighting for it.<<<

What about the 200,000 Iraqi police officers?
 
Originally posted by zarquiekia
Bush has lost the hearts and minds of the Iraqis! Bush was so glad to be the "war president" without a plan for recontruction of Iraq. Iraq has been nothing but choas and more and more innocent women and children being killed! All because Bush wanted to go down in history at the 'war president'! Now, he will go down in history as the most pathetic president that did not have common sense to plan a war and recontruction!

and Clinton will go down as a Lieing, cheating, worthless, lucky president. Bush will go down as the pesident who started to win the war on terror, Clinton will go down as the president who did nothing about the war on terror. Get over it, Bush is a "war president" something we haven't ahd since Regan, and something we need now! wait 50 years and read a history book. Bush will be rembered along with presidents such as, Regan, Truman, Teddy Rosevelt, and all the other presidents who led this country to fight an enemy you pussies don't think exists!!!
 
>>>Bottomline: Saddam did not have WMD since 1995 and Clinton had the factories bombed. Bush lied about the WMD! Bush knew he lied that is the reason for so many renaming of the invasion: 1. disarm Saddam; 2. Iraq had terrorists; 3. liberate the Iraqi people. Bush wanted to be a hero and, now, he looks like a fool!<<<

You're officially on ignore. Bush lied? Then the world lied. You can't understand this because you are blind. Bush is the only liar. Not France. Not Kerry. Not Congress. Not the UN. Not Tariq Aziz. Not Germany. Not Saddam's violations. Nope. Just Bush.

Like Bush was saying in 2003, "Let's invade Iraq because he doesn't have WMD, so then during the re-election campaign everyone will know!"
 
Originally posted by zarquiekia
Bottomline: Saddam did not have WMD since 1995 and Clinton had the factories bombed. Bush lied about the WMD! Bush knew he lied that is the reason for so many renaming of the invasion: 1. disarm Saddam; 2. Iraq had terrorists; 3. liberate the Iraqi people. Bush wanted to be a hero and, now, he looks like a fool!

again links, quotes, proof? Don't say Bush lied if you can't prove it!!
 
Powell, is no longer creditable on the subject of Iraq!
 
There's no proof Bush lied. None. And if you point to anything, it is something the entire world agreed with Bush upon. It's such a f*ckin' joke.

Ya know what... I bet we find WMD in Iraq. There I said it. The world thought something. So I say the world was right. Baghdad's the size of LA? Iraq's the size of California? I say we find it in a basement somewhere. After all...

"Mr. Hussein hides proof of his weaponry underneath the lawns of Mosul, Baghdad, and Tikrit citizens."
- Adnad Saed, Iraqi defector, 2001
 
Originally posted by zarquiekia
CNN posted an article on 04/03/04: Powell admitted that the evidence presented before the UN was not trueful!

Link!!!!
 
No, there is a link. But he's taking out of context. Powell said some of it may have been wrong. Powell isn't saying he lied.
 
Originally posted by zarquiekia
Powell, is no longer creditable on the subject of Iraq!

Why because you think he said something, if anybody in the Bush admin is the most credibale it is Powell!
 
Originally posted by preemptingyou03
No, there is a link. But he's taking out of context. Powell said some of it may have been wrong. Powell isn't saying he lied.

OK, that all, I knew he'ld never say
"We LIED about the weapons in Iraq."
 
Democrats hate Bush more than they hated Reagan. That's saying something. It's a shame we have to play politics. It really is. But they are playing it. And it is a political season.
 
Bush lied. That's it. Bush decided regime change, that's it.

Not the Congress, who voted for this on October 5, 1998 by a vote of 360 - 38 . Not the Senate, who voted for this UNANIMOUSLY on October 7, 1998. And certainly not President Clinton who signed the bill into law number No: 105-338 on October 31, 1998.

Not Kerry.

Not the UN (333 times).

Not Italy.

Not Clinton.

Not Mrs. Clinton.

Not Kennedy.

Not France or Germany or Russia or China or India.

Just Bush.
 
Iraq did not have terrorist until America invaded Iraq! The attacks on our soldiers are clearly from the Iraqi people! Bush said, "The Iraqis will love America for liberating them."
 
September/October 1994: Iraq threatens to end cooperation with UNSCOM, and starts deploying troops toward the Kuwaiti border.

July 1, 1995: After a long investigation, Iraq admits to the existence of an offensive biological weapons program.

June 1996: Iraq again denies UNSCOM teams access to sites under investigation. This results in U.N. Security Council Resolution 1060, demanding Iraq grant "immediate and unrestricted access" to all sites designated by UNSCOM.

I can list 300 more things like this. 300.
 
>>>Iraq did not have terrorist until America invaded Iraq!<<<

Except Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas, Abdul Yassin, and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. (Some of the world's most wanted terrorists). Except the MEK and PKK.
 
I love it how the anti-Bush crowd tries to go against everything we're doing in Iraq, that they actually go against everything that has been known by the international community, and has been admitted by Saddam Hussein himself. It gets to the point where it looks like they're making a case to invade America, not Iraq.

"There's no terrorists in Iraq!"

Except some of the world's most wanted.
 
Where the hell is Jimmy? Jimmy why are you not ripping this Zarq creature a new asshole? LMAO Liberals never learn, they are still arguing the same lame arguments while we move forward militarily. NEWS FLASH my little liberal heathen: all the bitching in the world will not get Kerry elected in "04. Bush will have to die for that to happen.
 

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