Fallen star

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It is now 2011 and no one has cleaned it up! The US hooked it's wagon to this fallen star and the people are still being conned into thinking this GMO crap is good food.




"US corn farmer and GM seed salesman, Nebraska, Dec 2000: "....you guys [US Government] created this monster; you clean it up. I have learned my lesson. No more GM crops on this farm ˜ ever." Quoted in UK 'Farmers Weekly', December 8, 2000"

Excerpt....... 1. Announcing New ISIS Report - See <www.i-sis.org> for full text

The Human Genome - The Biggest Sell-out in Human History

"To-day, we are learning the language that allowed God to create life." That was how Clinton announced the human genome map on 26 June 2000. The media were full of similar hyperboles. It was a feat comparable to landing on the moon. It will produce cancer cures. It will enable us to identify all the ‘bad’ genes that cause diseases as well as the ‘good’ genes that make us intelligent, beautiful, good at sports....; so the bad genes can be eliminated and good ones put in to enhance our genetic makeup. It will give us personalized medicine and a prescription of lifestyle based on our genetic makeup.

Ten years ago, when the Human Genome Project was being sold to the public at the cost of $3 billion from the United States taxpayers alone, they promised us the blueprint for making a human being when the human genome is sequenced. Now, dozens of genome sequences later, geneticists have no clue as to how to make the smallest microbe, nor the simplest worm, let alone a human being.

In case you have any lingering doubt, up to 95% of the human genome


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STARLINK IS NOT THE PROBLEM! SUPPRESSED INFORMATION ABOUT THE REAL HAZARDS OF GENETICALLY ENGINEERED FOODS

by Barbara Keeler and Robert Sterling

It took Starlink biocorn to get the media’s attention on genetically engineered foods. Dragging their footsteps, our government agencies gradually followed in the media’s wake. Starlink only made the news because the form of corn involved had not yet been approved for use in human food. Not that it had been disapproved. The EPA had said only that it needed more and better scientific information.

And who discovered the widespread presence of the un-approved corn product? Not the people we pay to protect us or safeguard the food supply, but a band of under-funded, under-respected, and at times scorned food safety activists.

In spite of its high media profile, Starlink is not the major problem. Government agencies are tracking it down, and food companies are way ahead of them, recalling their products. Most significant, everybody knows about Starlink. The problem lies with the more serious issues and hazards being ignored.
For example, what was the response when Monsanto researchers notified FDA that the most widely used genetically engineered product, Roundup Ready soybeans, contained a surprise package-some unintended and unsuspected gene fragments? Apparently when Monsanto enabled soybean plants to survive spraying with their weed killer, Roundup, by splicing a gene into the bean’s DNA, they tossed in a little extra.


FDA’s response: a big yawn. Media response: UK papers carried the story. A newswire service reported it in the US. Maybe some newspapers and news stations picked it up, but we did not see it anywhere except in the July News column of Whole Life Times.

Although this story should have smeared egg on the faces of biotech cheerleaders who claim that genetic engineering is more precise than conventional breeding techniques, scientist to this day publish high-profile opinion pieces making this now-disproved assertion.

What might explain the absence of the spotlight on these genetic hitchhikers in soy that pervades a majority of processed foods on the market? In soy on the market with FDA blessing? Possibly apathy. However, a document posted on GeneWatch UK website: GeneWatch UK - Home, offers another possible explanation. In what Genewatch says is a leaked internal document from Monsanto, the writer brags that "The [Monsanto] Scientific Outreach network and the Technology Issues Team averted attacks on recently emerging biotechnology issues. The team developed rapid responses to avoid over-reaction to claims regarding...the characterization of additional non-functional DNA in Roundup Ready soybeans."

Not to worry, says Monsanto’s letter to the UK government. According to Monsanto spokesman Jeff Bergau the gene fragments were in RR beans when they passed safety assessments by US authorities in 1994. What else was in the beans when they passed safety assessments? Well, not Roundup. Unlike the beans on the market and in the food supply, the beans Monsanto researchers analyzed had not been treated with weed killer.

Monsanto tried valiantly to silence one of the first critics to point out this discrepancy, Dr. Marc Lappe, Formerly head of the State of California’s Hazard Evaluation System and a former tenured professor in Health Policy & Ethics at the Univ of Illinois at Chicago College of Medicine. His book, AGAINST THE GRAIN, was the topic of a threatening letter from Monsanto to its original publisher in 1998. After the first publisher backed down, Common Courage Press published the book.
If not Roundup, what DID the Roundup Ready soybeans contain when they were reviewed by FDA in 1994? For starters, higher levels of a known allergen. Apparently, Monsanto managed to keep some troubling information from becoming an issue. They just didn’t report the data in their published study or the report they sent to the EPA. What information the published study and FDA report did reveal was camouflaged in a place readers were least likely to look for it. Sandwiched between lists of macronutrients (protein, carbohydrates, etc.) were levels of trypsin-inhibiter, an allergen which inhibits protein digestion and has been associated with enlarged cells in rat pancreases. Table 9 shows trypsin-inhibiter, levels that are 26.7 percent higher in the untoasted RR soybeans than in the conventional controls.

The authors’ discussion of table 9 did not mention trypsin-inhibiter levels, which meant no mention was made in the online text version, sans tables, available in most libraries. In fact, we missed it the first few times through the tables, and we were looking for it.

An 1996 article describing Monsanto’s research was published in the JOURNAL OF NUTRITION. It’s title is "The composition of glyphosate-tolerant soybean seeds is equivalent to that of conventional soybeans," but statistically significant differences were measured in content of ash, fat carbohydrate and some fatty acids. The brain-boosting vitamin choline was 29% lower in Roundup Ready lecithin. Go figure.

In the text, the authors acknowledge "higher than expected" levels of trypsin inhibitor in Experiment 1, which was conducted on conventional and RR beans grown in Puerto Rico. The authors contend that the processing caused the elevated levels, but they noted elsewhere in the study that "processing soybean protein significantly inactivates TI." Moreover, processing was identical for Roundup ready beans and controls.

They did not report the data about the Puerto Rico beans in their published tables, calculations, or discussion. Their rationale: the beans were grown in a single Puerto Rico site, and the beans in Experiment 2 and 3, from several US sites, were "more representative of the wide geographical area in which soybeans are grown." They did not explain why they grew the Puerto Rico beans for the study in the first place. Nor did they explain why a comparison between batches of beans grown at the same site under identical conditions is less valid than comparisons among beans grown in different geographical areas under widely varying conditions.

A footnote in the journal said that supplementary information on the Puerto Rico beans had been deposited with American Society for Information Science, National Auxiliary Publication Service under Doc. 04949. For a price, the data could be ordered.

Contrary to the authors’ statement, the data filed under Doc. 04949 pertains to an unrelated study by a different author. The National Auxiliary Publication Service confirmed that the data was never deposited.

The JOURNAL OF NUTRITION supplied the missing information. What did it reveal? It does indeed show higher levels of the allergen trypsin inhibitor in toasted RR soy meal thaN in the controls. In fact, by one measure the levels of trypsin inhibitor in toasted Roundup Ready meal were over the top of the literature range—the highest and lowest levels measured for soybeans by other researchers.

Roundup Ready beans were also significantly lower in protein and the aromatic amino acid phenylalanine. Drops in aromatic amino acid levels are of particular importance, because Roundup kills weeds by inhibiting an enzyme that helps the body make the aromatic amino acids. There were also significantly different levels of the amino acid cysteine and one fatty acid.

Data omitted from the published study also show that after a second toasting, the levels of an allergen called lectin in Roundup Ready meal nearly doubled the levels of the conventional control beans.

Besides possible allergic reactions, what might be expected from higher levels of trypsin-inhibitor and lectin? Well, animals would be expected to grow more slowly and gain less weight, and that is exactly what happened to male rats fed unprocessed meal from Roundup Ready soybeans.

Cows fed the RR soya meal showed higher levels of fat in their milk. Yet the title of the study is "The feeding value of soybeans fed to rats, chickens, catfish and dairy cattle is not altered by genetic incorporation of glyphosate tolerance," and the abstract makes no mention of the data that challenges their conclusion.
Don’t research findings such as these point to the need for more testing, rather than immediate FDA blessing? EPA busted the suppliers of Starlink for similar shoddy research, and that is the reason Starlink is not approved for human consumption. EPA said, essentially, that the data in these studies did not support the authors conclusion and invited them to submit better studies. Ironically, the safety studies for foods now ubiquitous in the food supply also fail to support the authors’ conclusions, according to Dr. Lappe and Dr. Joe Cummins. As Dr. Cummins puts it, "The concept of substantial equivalence has been introduced to commercialize genetically modified (GM) crops without extensive testing or labeling in the marketplace. The concept assumes that GM crops are equivalent seems to be being used as a license to distribute GM crops which are unsubstantially equivalent."

The leaked Monsanto document also credits its response team for developing "rapid responses to avoid over-reaction to claims regarding...gene transfer by honey bees" referring to gene transfer from genetically engineered rapeseed to bacteria and fungi in the gut of honey bees detected by Professor Hans-Hinrich Kaatz from the Institut für Bienenkunde (Institute for bee research) at the University of Jena. The story made its way into the Whole Life Times news column, but for the most part, the suppression was successful in the US. The document brags "Two op-eds on the honeybee issue by notable scientists were triggered to help avoid additional high profile press coverage."

Monsanto and other producers of GE seeds fund plenty of research at universities around the world, making it easy to recruit "notable scientists" as mouthpieces. They also fund think tanks and similar organizations to spread their misleading messages.

An example of a widely published mouthpiece for big agribusiness is Dennis Avery, the author of SAVING THE PLANET WITH PESTICIDES AND PLASTICS, and currently is director of the Center for Global Food Issues for the Hudson Institute, a pro-corporate think tank with major funders such as Monsanto, DuPont, Novartis, Dow, and ConAgra. The biotech industry’s PR firm, Burson-Marsteller, allegedly involved in a massive PR campaign to counteract the escalating global anti-GE movement in the US and abroad, is represented on Hudson Institute’s board.

Herb London, President of the Hudson Institute, is a John M. Olin, Professor of Humanities at New York University, a position funded by the John M. Olin Foundation. The Olin Foundation was created and is still controlled by the Olin Corporation, a leading North American chemical giant and top producer of agricultural chemicals, including sulfuric acid, fertilizers and pesticides.
Date: 31 Ooctober 2000

SUPPRESSED INFORMATION ABOUT THE REAL HAZARDS OF GENETICALLY ENGINEERED FOODS
Herb London also sits on the Board of Associates for the Palmer R. Chitester Fund—a right-wing foundation which sells educational materials based on John Stossel’s 20/20 reports on ABC, giving ABC a cut of the profits. Remember Stossel’s 20/20 hatchet job on organic foods? Another major contributor to the Palmer R. Chitester Fund is the Olin Foundation. Is a picture beginning to emerge?

The corruptive inbreeding of interests does not end with the connections between agribusiness, a conservative foundation, a conservative think tank, a widely published media mouthpiece for agrigusniees, and a supposed independent journalist. We won’t even start in on the well-documented revolving door between Monsanto and FDA, or other US agencies that develop and implement biotech policy.

Is it any wonder that the American public does not hear about the real troubling issues in genetic engineering of foods, or that the pervasiveness of Starlink would be unsuspected but for the persistence of GE activists?
 
more propaganda nonsense. Can you do anything but copy and paste? Like form your own argument?
 
What exactly is the problem here? A chemical in the soybeans ins in the soybeans in a larger amount? Other chemicals naturally in soybeans is there in smaller amounts?
You get that with any breeding change.
 
This jackass is anti-science. this right here just shows how ignorant this guy is for believing this shit

'Now, dozens of genome sequences later, geneticists have no clue as to how to make the smallest microbe, nor the simplest worm, let alone a human being."

Umm, the purpose of the human genome project was not to make human beings. It was to know all the genes in the genome to understand how they work, to help identify genes that are mutated in disease, and its very valuable information. who the hell said we were trying to make a human being, let along make a worm? all the medical technoloogy out there, the new drugs, treatments, etc are all because of scientific research making discoveries, and proof that they work.

That' very valuable information in the human genome project. Why don't you leave science to people who know what they are talking about.
 
People playing god will cause problems, always do.

Humans are never as smart as they think they are.

We play god all the time, have for years. God wouldn't give us intelligence to do the science we do and all the amazing technology that "plays god" if god didn't want us to, right?
 
People playing god will cause problems, always do.

Humans are never as smart as they think they are.

We play god all the time, have for years. God wouldn't give us intelligence to do the science we do and all the amazing technology that "plays god" if god didn't want us to, right?

Yep why we got Thalamide babies and such.

the reason you and I are probably alive and survived childbirth and didn't die from infection, TB, polio, pertussis, rubella, small pox, etc. THe reason we are typing on the internet on computers. Yeah, damn science!
 
This jackass is anti-science. this right here just shows how ignorant this guy is for believing this shit

'Now, dozens of genome sequences later, geneticists have no clue as to how to make the smallest microbe, nor the simplest worm, let alone a human being."

Umm, the purpose of the human genome project was not to make human beings. It was to know all the genes in the genome to understand how they work, to help identify genes that are mutated in disease, and its very valuable information. who the hell said we were trying to make a human being, let along make a worm? all the medical technoloogy out there, the new drugs, treatments, etc are all because of scientific research making discoveries, and proof that they work.

That' very valuable information in the human genome project. Why don't you leave science to people who know what they are talking about.

Hey Doc you lackey shill. I have a microwave I'd like to sell. The rooster got out and the grand kids caught him. He was wet and had icicles on him so the kids stuck him in the microwave. Now everything that comes out of the microwave smells like cock. I think you could use a little of this around there where ever you are. I'm amazed you can even talk with all of that corporate cock stuck in your mouth.
 
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This jackass is anti-science. this right here just shows how ignorant this guy is for believing this shit

'Now, dozens of genome sequences later, geneticists have no clue as to how to make the smallest microbe, nor the simplest worm, let alone a human being."

Umm, the purpose of the human genome project was not to make human beings. It was to know all the genes in the genome to understand how they work, to help identify genes that are mutated in disease, and its very valuable information. who the hell said we were trying to make a human being, let along make a worm? all the medical technoloogy out there, the new drugs, treatments, etc are all because of scientific research making discoveries, and proof that they work.

That' very valuable information in the human genome project. Why don't you leave science to people who know what they are talking about.

Hey Doc you lackey shill. I have a microwave I'd like to sell. The rooster got out and the grand kids caught him. He was wet and had icicles on him so the kids stuck him in the microwave. Now everything that comes out of the microwave smells like cock. I think you could use a little of this around there where ever you are. I'm amazed you can even talk with all of that corporate cock stuck in your mouth.
:lol::lol::lol:

Brilliant response :cuckoo:
 
We play god all the time, have for years. God wouldn't give us intelligence to do the science we do and all the amazing technology that "plays god" if god didn't want us to, right?

Yep why we got Thalamide babies and such.

the reason you and I are probably alive and survived childbirth and didn't die from infection, TB, polio, pertussis, rubella, small pox, etc. THe reason we are typing on the internet on computers. Yeah, damn science!

Yep we have progressed, but we always go to far in some aspect.

I mean Twitter? Now what is up with that?
 
With the Greg's and Old Rocks going forth to support bioengineering altering our lives via the food supply without permission from the individual taxpayers who are duped into financing their science fiction propaganda, I suppose we don't have much of a voice against them. I think this is mostly due to their incessant desire and I might add, a genuine need to stay hidden. I mean yikes man, just look around you. There are a lot of other types of nut cases out there in this world besides Mad Maxx the Scientist. I guess if I were doing what these bio-engineering people were doing I'd be worried too. I mean there are those among us in this world who have clearly demonstrated that they have no qualms about blowing you up or shooting your ass. I suppose it's understandable why you don't have your names on your mail boxes.

Now they are pushing even more smoke and mirrors because they know the hell that will be raised against them when people become aware of not only what they have done to the people but of the direction they claim they want to take their "science".

It is not good enough that it is substantially proven even in their own scientific community by their own geneticists and bio-tech engineers who have 'jumped ship' that genetically modified seed has already mutated, killed and is voraciously taking over crops, weeds and plants in nature and the natural foods that people depend upon to sustain their everyday lives. Yet, even now, these spoiled little self proclaimed givers and makers of life continue forward spouting their diatribe against anyone who opposes what they are doing. It's quite simple really; everybody touts the newest hype nowadays about transparency. Let's have a little transparency here Dr. Frankenstein. Open up your hidden laboratories and start publishing your work. All of it not just the propaganda. The whole thing and not just what you glean and clean up or even omit due to public release of the work. You know all those dirty little hidden reports now surfacing by your own ship jumpers that you didn't want Joe The Public to know about. These biological hacks want to redefine and re-engineer nature without any regard for the Pandora's Boxes they will open. They have turned a monster loose on an unsuspecting and ignorant public and the world at large. These 'people' want to infect any living creature they please just to try out their grandiose and secret hypothesis'. If anyone takes a stance against them they all scream "anti science". What a load of hogwash. Releasing these unpredictable genetic and mutated modifications into an unsuspecting world is not good science nor is it morally or ethically acceptable.

The US forest biotechnology company ArborGen has had considerable success in getting permission from USDA/APHIS (United States Department of Agriculture/Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service) to undertake open field trials of the companies genetically modified (GM) eucalyptus (note: GM, transgenic, and genetically engineered are used interchangeably throughout). The first field test of modified eucalyptus was undertaken in Alabama and reached a Finding of No Significant Impact (FONSI). ISIS objected to the application for an earlier field test [1] ( GM Eucalyptus Environmental Assessment Irregular , SiS 35). Further field tests were carried out in Florida. Now, ArborGen proposes a gigantic follow-up by submitting two applications for field testing on 29 sites ranging in size from 0.5 to 20 acres located in Alabama, Florida, Texas and Louisiana [2].USDA/APHIS has prepared a Revised Draft Environmental Assessment in response to the applications, to continue research on the transgenic Eucalyptus trees currently permitted, to be issued permits to plant additional trees, and for the environmental release of transgenic eucalyptus trees that will be allowed to flower on 28 of the 29 proposed sites. These plants are a clone, coded EH1, derived from a hybrid of Eucalyptus grandis X Eucalyptus urophylla , and have been genetically engineered with different constructs. The purpose of the environmental release is to assess the effectiveness of gene constructs intended to confer cold tolerance, to alter lignin biosynthesis; and to alter fertility. In addition, the trees have been engineered with a selectable marker gene.

The two combined permits requested by ArborGen would allow flowering on up to 330 acres across all 28 locations, in fields ranging from 0.5 to 20 acres [ 2]. .

Gene used as selectable marker

The kanamycin resistance selectable marker gene ( nptII ) engineered into the trees is accepted as being safe according to APHIS. In a number of instances, plants transformed with this gene have been deregulated by APHIS (e.g. corn, rapeseed, cotton, and papaya in past petitions). It should be pointed out that the food and feed crops deregulated by APHIS were not labelled and there has been no effort to study the impact of the antibiotic resistance gene on the human population or for that matter farm animals. Therefore, the gene is essentially untested, and APHIS has no ground in assuming that the use of that gene has no significant impact.

Gene for altered fertility

According to APHIS, the barnase gene has been engineered into several other crops that have been previously reviewed and addressed in multiple environmental assessments by APHIS, and granted non-regulated status: Male sterile corn (USDA APHIS petitions for deregulation 95-288-01p, 97-342-01p and 98-349-01p), rapeseed (petitions 98-278-01p and 01-206-01p) and chicory (petition 97-148-01p). There is no reason to believe that the function and expression of this gene will be any different from the plants in which it has been previously assessed. In greenhouse tests using tobacco and an early flowering model Eucalyptus ( E. occidentalis ), the applicant has found that the barnase gene demonstrated 100 percent efficacy in preventing pollen formation. In developing flower buds from field grown transgenic Eucalyptus lines containing this cassette, 90 percent of lines showed complete pollen ablation. Recent observations from the replicated field study being conducted in Alabama under the approved BRS permit (BRS # 06-325-111r-a1) confirm that cold tolerant trees grown at the site and allowed to flower did not produce any viable pollen. APHIS concluded that barnase will have no significant impact on the environment.

APHIS ignores the fact that the product of the barnase gene is barnase ribonuclease, a powerful cell toxin poisoning humans, small mammals and bird [4]. The same toxin has been engineered to kill cancer cells [5]. A patent application submitted by ArborGen in 2009 [6] stated: &#8220;Accordingly, there exists a need for a reproductive ablation system having reduced barnase induced toxicity and minimal leaky expression in a plant's vegetative tissues.&#8221; The leakiness and toxicity of barnase was not mentioned in the APHIS assessment.

continued at link...Field Testing Genetically Engineered Eucalyptus: Environment Assessment Still Inadequate

Open field testing on plants and trees so that some corporation can patent and then claim all trees after they cross pollinate into nature is theft by deception. It is quite simply theft of nature, theft of natural cure, theft of natural care and theft of our own natural biological immune systems. I thought hijacking was a terrorist act? It damn sure is illegal I've heard. Fake trees, fake food and fake perceptions sent into the fields using every animal, insect, plant and human as guinea pigs simply for experimentation and/or profit is a travesty. These people do not have and never did have and never will have the right to release such a biological monster onto the world without formal informed consent of the people who live in the world.

And for your information Dr. Gregg, God gave you the intelligence, science and technology to figure out the cures in the natural. You guys gave up because you can't find them so now you want to bend the rules and play God yourselves. You see man, it's like the book says, "And they think their sparks are their own." God did not give you or anyone else the right to destroy anything. He reserved that for himself. Doc, the creator reserves the right of destruction, not you or your self infatuated and prideful little minions. Get it? You are pissing in the wind if you truly believe you can harness and reproduce the spirit of truth. Whassamatter, you give up on that too?
 
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