CDZ Fake News/Media Syndrome

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How serious is fake/biased/erroneous news in modern times?

  1. 1. Not serious at all

  2. 2. Somewhat serious

  3. 3. Serious

  4. 4. Extremely serious.

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  1. Foxfyre
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    I am putting this in the CDZ as I would like a serious, civil discussion re the serious business of media coverage that is:

    1. Biased to the point of dishonesty
    2. Erroneous to the point of incompetence
    3. Fake news in that it is information created or repeated that is patently false.

    Based on posts and people recruited to be talking heads on television, it seems obvious some think this syndrome doesn't exist at all or it is purely an invention of Fox News. Others are diligently pointing out that it does exist and is mean, cruel, hateful, and detrimental to us as a society.

    So what do you think? This is the thread to express your opinions and impressions and also to post examples of fake/erroneous/misrepresented news that you run across and/or examples of news labeled 'fake' that turned out to be true.

    The poll is set so that people can change their vote if they change their mind during the discussion.
     
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    I'll start with this piece from the Daily Caller listing seven times this year that CNN has botched or put out fake/erroneous news:

    7 Times CNN Botched The News In 2017

    These include:
    --Comey testimony
    --Scaramucci smear
    --Fake news about fake news
    --Feeding fish in Japan
    --The President's knowledge of Japanese cars
    --Funding of the Dossier
    --Don Jr. and Wikilieaks

    And that's just CNN. Let's see other examples or examples of news declared fake that was actually true.
     
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    Since the article ONLY involves CNN as "fake news," I'd say the Daily Caller is also involved in being "biased"
    So let's add them to the list, shall we?
     
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    There has always been some dishonesty and incompetence in news reporting. The problem today is that the administration is characterizing anything they don't like as "fake news" and a significant proportion of the electorate is swallowing it whole.
     
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    Today the "news" is bordering on criminal. Look at the hit the stock market took over lies by the media.
     
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    You are mistaking an economic problem for a political problem. The terminal companies: Bloomberg and Reuters; are the only non-government media that can afford adequate staffing. The MSM is dealing with a shrinking budget and that includes CNBC, which is trying to become one of the big boys. The competent move up to the terminal companies and the rest deal with shrinking resources.
     
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    Wrong. 0bama whined about FOX all during his regime. The only difference here is that Trump is correct and 0bama was lying.
     
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    The article was about CNN specifically. It was about ONLY CNN and not any of the others that could have been included.

    So what did the article get wrong? How does it show bias in any way?
     
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    The only truly "fake news" I've seen recently has been right here, posted by Alex23. Some of his sites are beyond not credible.
     
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    The problem with news in this country is extremely serious. The press is the only defense we have against government corruption. With the press firmly and unabashedly on the side of the democrats, no one can trust them.

    This leads to politicians on both sides of the isle being able to do as they please. On the right, they can do whatever they want and just claim it’s fake news. On the left they can make up anything they want to and IF the ever get caught, they simply move quickly on to the next made up thing.

    In the end we get situations like in Roy Moore’s case. We don’t know what’s true and what isn’t. Those who support him believe it’s a set up by the left and it could very well be since the left never has anyone call them to the carpet. They are above the law. The Moore supporters know that and it bolsters their belief in the conspiracy. Meanwhile, those on the left who get fed a steady diet of left wing slanted news don’t get to hear anything that doesn’t support the narrative about Moore.

    What should have happened is the media should be non-partisan and lead the charge against corruption no matter what party they belong to. This would have kept the left honest and given the right news they can believe. Then Moore would be either never bothered or completely fucked depending on wether he’s guilty or not.

    It’s terrible. The government is out of control and the people have no way to control them.
     
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