Fake News And The Iraq War: New Film 'Shock And Awe'...

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    All the lies told to justify the Iraq invasion, weren't just told by our Government.


    By Martin Armstrong

    I recently watched the movie Shock & Awe on the Iraq War. It really showed how the pretend free press are just stenographers for the government and that your President Trump is absolutely correct about fake news. The movie ended with the New York Times apologizing for its fake reporting.

    I STRONGLY advise that you take the time to watch this film. Then you will start to understand how the Deep State and how the mainstream press is interlinked. Yes, I know Bill Kristol. He even spoke at one of our conferences back in the early nineties. I do not think he was so much a neocon back then. I would by no means say we were “friends” just knew each other from the political circles in Washington...


    Why Did the US Invade Iraq? - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
     
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    So does the movie address the following MAJOR issue?

    The Invasion of Kuwait on 2 August 1990 was a two-day operation conducted by Iraq against the neighboring state of Kuwait, which resulted in the seven-month-long Iraqi occupation of the country. This invasion and Iraq's subsequent refusal to withdraw from Kuwait by a deadline mandated by the United Nations[8] led to military intervention by a
    United Nations-authorized coalition of forces led by the United States.

    Was Saddam RIGHT and the UN wrong?

    So how was Iraq defeated?
    After 42 days of relentless attacks by the allied coalition in the air and on the ground, U.S. President George H.W. Bush declared a cease-fire on February 28; by that time, most Iraqi forces in Kuwait had either surrendered or fled.
    Persian Gulf War - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

    Was the Iraq CEASE FIRE a legal International agreement?
    Within two hours, the obviously humbled Iraqi delegation had accepted all the demands that were presented for a permanent cease-fire in the Persian Gulf war. In effect, the Iraqis had surrendered and the coalition's victory over the Government of President Saddam Hussein appeared complete.
    AFTER THE WAR: Cease-Fire Meeting; A Hard-Faced Schwarzkopf Sets Terms at Desert Meeting

    So it appears that there NEVER was a formal surrender. A 1991 Cease-Fire.

    So why did Bill Clinton sign this Act and was it discussed in this movie?
    The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy stating that "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq..."[1][2] It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton, and states that it is the policy of the United States to support democratic movements within Iraq. The Act was cited in October 2002 to argue for the authorization of military force against the Iraqi government.
    Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia

    So given the attack on 9/11, 3,000 people killed two American cities attacked, nearly a Trillion dollars in damages... what why did GWB then fulfill the 1998 Liberation of Iraq ACT?

    One major issue was WMDs which Scott Pelley of CBS news said was found...
    "You know, the world was looking for weapons of mass destruction.
    And the evidence was right under its nose," Alwash.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5658502n
     
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    Well title is right....that was some major league shock and awe
     
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    The main point it makes, is that US Fake News was complicit in all the lies leading up to the Iraq War.
     
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    President Bush gave Saddam about a year to comply with U.N. sanctions but Saddam apparently thought Bush was bluffing. Bush asked congress for permission to use ground troops and congress (including 39%) of democrats complied. Bill Clinton claimed that Saddam was building WMD's but that was not the stated purpose of using ground troops. The CIA's role is puzzling. The agency allegedly went along with the conflict and then turned against the president when democrats decided that they didn't support the mission anymore. It should be noted that Harry Truman sent troops to Korea on an (illegal?) executive order and bungled the mission so badly that we lost anywhere from 35,000 to 50,000 Americans in a three year quagmire but Korea didn't receive the scrutiny that Iraq did even though the freaking war never ended. There were a couple of movies depicting the heroism of American troops but no behind the scenes political intrigue like you see constantly about the Bush administration. The political double standard has been in place for many years.
     
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    " Deep State." Enough said about this BS.
     
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    It was all lies. Hussein and Iraq were no threat to the US whatsoever. US Fake News and our Government lied us into war.
     
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    The CIA does have operatives embedded in US MSM 'News.' It has them embedded in all forms of Media.
     
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    In 2003, Kristol and Lawrence F. Kaplan wrote The War Over Iraq: America’s Mission and Saddam’s Tyranny (ISBN ), in which they provided support and justifications for war in Iraq. They argued that war was necessary to create a democracy in the Middle East that they claimed would be the beginning of a new era in American foreign policy. Their neocon ideas of trying to create a democracy in Iraq was simply insane and it completely failed...

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    Question,; has the media lies as much as Donald Trump?
    There are over 4,200 documented times that Trump has lied or made misleading statements.
    None of these lies/misleading statements have ever been debunked by Trump, Trump's team or Trump supporter.
    As this thread was started by a Trumpser, there is hypocrisy and selective outrage about when the truth is abused.
     

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