Faith

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    <center><h1><font color=blue>Faith</font></h1></center>

    <blockquote><b>Faith></b>; <i>noun</i>: (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion (2) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof </blockquote>

    The key word in this definition is "<i>belief</i>". Belief is a box that can trap us. It leads us to think we know all we need to know and need explore or question no further. It can lead us to a seemingly inescapable intellectual and epistemological dead-end.

    In the ancient Pali texts, wherein the earliest recorded teachings of the Buddha are preserved, "<i>faith</i>" is mentioned frequently. But it is a verb and not...a noun. This frees us from the trap of belief. Faith becomes a dynamic and ongoing process...a path to be traveled, not a box to be trapped within. It becomes a living thing rather than an ossified edifice.

    <blockquote>Belief grips you...Faith frees you. - Roshi Phillip Kapleau</blockquote>
     
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    Did you have a good Christmas, Bully? You seem a little sour... :teeth:
     
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    Some "beliefs" don't leave a lot of room for epistemic exploration, and some are too "self-centered", without requiring much "faith". I guess it depends on the type of person you are.
     
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    Great post. So you can have faith without belief?
     
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    Are you addressing Bully?
     
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    Hey bully. That sounds like you.

    Damn, your mind is a noxious goo.
     
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    I had a wonderful Christmas. And you?
     
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    One can have faith AND belief so long as one is aware of, and understands, the limitations of each.
     
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    You fail to grasp the meaning so you resort to insults. Tch...Tch...Tch.
     
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    You mean to grasp the failure, so you insult resorts.
     

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