Fair or No?

Discussion in 'Congress' started by hortysir, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. hortysir
    Offline

    hortysir In Memorial of 47

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2010
    Messages:
    20,459
    Thanks Received:
    4,027
    Trophy Points:
    270
    Location:
    Lakeland, FL
    Ratings:
    +6,296
    Constitutionally it's right but do you think it's fair for Congress members to continue to be paid during any government shutdown?


    Read more:
    vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
    Congress.org - News : Congress Q&A: Who gets paid?
     
  2. Toronado3800
    Offline

    Toronado3800 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2009
    Messages:
    3,572
    Thanks Received:
    274
    Trophy Points:
    85
    Ratings:
    +355
    In a non cynical world getting paid keeps the poor representative from Dayton from having to hurry up and settle on a bill so his kids dont go hungry.

    In real life most are fairly well off and perhaps going a few weeks w/o a check might hurry things along by costing them a yacht payment.

    So either way I am fine. Heck, as an idealist I like to think at least one member of Congress is a normal Joe living check to check so he may as well get paid so he can hold out on principal.
     
  3. Grace
    Offline

    Grace BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    5,174
    Thanks Received:
    741
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +742
    If he isnt at work and not on salary, no.
     
  4. theDoctorisIn
    Online

    theDoctorisIn Senior Mod Staff Member Senior USMB Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2009
    Messages:
    29,997
    Thanks Received:
    5,787
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    East, but still West
    Ratings:
    +11,923
    The whole point is that during a government shutdown, the Congress, the Cabinet and the President don't stop working. They are exempt from being sent home - so if they're not being furloughed, they should be paid.
     
  5. Skull Pilot
    Offline

    Skull Pilot Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2007
    Messages:
    31,692
    Thanks Received:
    4,477
    Trophy Points:
    1,130
    Ratings:
    +10,025
    Congress should get a pay cut. And the neat little scam they have of voting their own pay raises should be addressed.

    One thing that irks the hell out of me is that a politician can stop working for a year or more while campaigning for an office other than the one he already holds and still get paid and then have the job waiting for him if he loses.

    It'd be like you telling your boss you won't be showing up to work for a year while you try to get a new business off the ground expecting to be paid and still have your old job waiting for you if your new venture didn't work out.

    Does anyone else think that if an elected politician should resign his seat if he plans on campaigning for another office?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  6. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,617
    Well, assuming it shuts down, if Congress and the POTUS don't continue to work, it STAYS shutdown.

    So fair or not, I'd say they pretty much need to stay on task.
     
  7. hortysir
    Offline

    hortysir In Memorial of 47

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2010
    Messages:
    20,459
    Thanks Received:
    4,027
    Trophy Points:
    270
    Location:
    Lakeland, FL
    Ratings:
    +6,296
    They get away with their pay raise because of Americans' short memory.
    Every 2 years 1/3 are up for re-election.
    Takes a 2/3 majority to pass their raise.
    The one third that are up on deck can say "I didn't vote for the pay raise".
    Meanwhile the others pass it.
    Then for the next 4 years that same dickhead can vote while the others run.......and the cycle continues
     
  8. hortysir
    Offline

    hortysir In Memorial of 47

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2010
    Messages:
    20,459
    Thanks Received:
    4,027
    Trophy Points:
    270
    Location:
    Lakeland, FL
    Ratings:
    +6,296
    Yes. They need to stay on the job.
    But isn't that like letting the same crew that run your business into the ground keep their job??
     
  9. Immanuel
    Offline

    Immanuel Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Messages:
    16,823
    Thanks Received:
    2,210
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Ratings:
    +2,224
    There was another thread about the possibility of military pay being stopped during the shutdown. I am not 100% certain that was not mularky, but if it is not and military pay is stopped, does this mean that we bring our troops home and furlough them for the length of time that this shutdown is going on?

    I'm not certain, but the way I am reading things is that non-essential personnel will be sent home, but essential personnel left on duty. Do essential personnel continue to get paid in a shutdown or are they theoretically enslaved until Congress gets off their butts?

    Immie
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2011
  10. Two Thumbs
    Offline

    Two Thumbs Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2010
    Messages:
    33,450
    Thanks Received:
    5,786
    Trophy Points:
    1,140
    Location:
    Where ever I go, there I am.
    Ratings:
    +11,589
    Good question for an odd situation.

    They are poloticians that work for us but we don't employ them.

    ya know, I just don't know.

    On one side they are still working to get a budget.
    On the other they fucked it up so bad that they should all be looking at getting fired.

    If we don't have the money to pay most of government, then no one should get paid.
    You don't pay me, I won't work, so we have to pay the pols to work.

    meh

    It's moments like this when I hope there is a hell.
     

Share This Page