Facts that PROVE the rich are NOT paying their fair share

[Dragon]

Their are people all over the world who would literally committ murder to come to America and get a job.

Not "all over the world." Just people living in third-world countries that are even more oppressive and feudalistic than we are. You don't find people from other advanced economies breaking down the doors.

And here you sit, calling an honest job "exploitation".

When someone works a 50 hour week and is still below the poverty line, "exploitation" is exactly the word for it.

 

[P@triot]

I really wish we could all just get along. All this bitterness and hatred is what is screwing up our government. Politicians don't care about the country. They care about their party and beating the other party. I would love to see all Americans fight for a single cause because in the end it affects all of us.

The problem is you have simpleton brainwashed morons on this board and in life who want socialism, which violates the Bill of Rights, hence makes it illegal, yet they could care less just as long as they get something for free.

They're like monkeys who just take fruit off trees and eat it... Well now the fruit is running out and they're attacking the trees..

They want more fruit...

You see all these progressives do is demand free shit and have zero solution for their demands other than denying they're de facto socialists..

Besides this is a political board - what did you expect? agreement?

Hmm, socialism is illegal yet we gave $BILLIONS in taxpayer bailouts to companies that were irresponsible.

Socialism is illegal yet when the income tax started it was 90% on the top1%, pretty much what it should be today.

Socialism is illegal yet we had the best economy when the top tax rate was 70% and mw had the highest spending power in history.

Funny, I didn't see anything in the constitution, the declaration of Independence OR the Bill of Rights that banned socialism. I specifically remember a clause that stated "for the welfare of the people"...

Funny how people only want socialism when it benefits them. Let the bankers have $billions and take their vacations on our tax dollars, just for heaven's sake, don't give money to those that don't have any.....you need to tax them.

Exactly WHO is supporting the bail outs of the banks done by both Bush AND Obama? Certainly NOT me. Nor anyone else I know. Furthermore, if you actually read any of the documents you just cited, you would know that Socialism is banned. For instance, the Declaration of Independence specifically states "......and the pursuit of Happiness". One cannot pursue happiness if the government confiscates what they EARN and then distributes it based on the governments own agenda. Period. If you liberals weren't so anti-American, you would have actually read these critical documents and understood are history. Instead, like the other idiot anti-American's - the muslims - you drink the kool-aid of any idiot who feeds you anti-American propaganda. If you want Socialism so much, move your ass to Cuba sweetheart. Nobody is keeping you here. In fact, with views like yours, nobody even wants you here!

 

[P@triot]

Their are people all over the world who would literally committ murder to come to America and get a job.

Not "all over the world." Just people living in third-world countries that are even more oppressive and feudalistic than we are. You don't find people from other advanced economies breaking down the doors.

And here you sit, calling an honest job "exploitation".

When someone works a 50 hour week and is still below the poverty line, "exploitation" is exactly the word for it.

Thank you for displaying your ignorance once again. People from Japan, China, Russia, England, Canada, India, and more all come here DAILY for the chance to pursue happiness. These are people from FULLY developed nations, with all of the same stuff we have (automobiles, trains, computers, internet, infrastructure, etc.). You are embarassing yourself further with each post. Why don't you just admit you were wrong?

Furthermore, working 50 hours a week in this wonderful country (until Obama took it over anyway) is a PRIVILEGE. Just because you hate your own life and are too lazy to work, doesn't mean it's "exploitation". Your problems are not the responsibility of the rest of the nation to solve. Get off your lazy ass and do something with your life. You have no excuses. None. Nobody is holding you back. Nobody is keeping you down. There is no conspiracy by "the man" to oppress you. You're just to fucking lazy to do anything. That's YOUR problem, not ours.

 

[P@triot]

The Top 1% do not earn their wealth. They pay 15% tax rate(if any taxes at all due to loop holes) on investments, while the other 99% pay a much higher tax rate on their money and do so the old fashion way, they earn it working for a living.

STOP listening to the propaganda that comes out of the top %, and from their misguided mouthpieces in the Republican Party. Think for yourself and support your own class, not the top 1%.

The fact that they chose the right investments which made money, proves they EARNED it.

You need to stop listening to the propaganda, which has taught you that somehow the money these people make is not theirs to keep. They should only pay 15% - it's their fucking money. Who are you to take their money? Who is the US government to take their money? Explain to me why you feel you are so entitled to everyone else's possessions? Do you even hear yourself when you speak? Do you know what a child you sound like trying to take things that don't belong to you and then crying about it when you don't get it?

 

[Dragon]

People from Japan, China, Russia, England, Canada, India, and more all come here DAILY for the chance to pursue happiness.

And Americans are leaving the U.S. to go to those countries, too.

A Growing Trend of Leaving America - US News and World Report

Furthermore, working 50 hours a week in this wonderful country (until Obama took it over anyway) is a PRIVILEGE.

LOL well, that says a lot about your attitude. Excuse me if I don't consider it a privilege to slave for someone else's profit at absurd rates of compensation. I am not here to kiss the feet of the rich and powerful. Maybe you are. I guess that's your choice, but don't expect a lot of other people to share it.

And I note you still haven't answered the question about how much of the national income is taken in by the top X%. Once more, without that, the share of the tax burden they carry means nothing.

 

[Againsheila]

The problem is you have simpleton brainwashed morons on this board and in life who want socialism, which violates the Bill of Rights, hence makes it illegal, yet they could care less just as long as they get something for free.

They're like monkeys who just take fruit off trees and eat it... Well now the fruit is running out and they're attacking the trees..

They want more fruit...

You see all these progressives do is demand free shit and have zero solution for their demands other than denying they're de facto socialists..

Besides this is a political board - what did you expect? agreement?

Hmm, socialism is illegal yet we gave $BILLIONS in taxpayer bailouts to companies that were irresponsible.

Socialism is illegal yet when the income tax started it was 90% on the top1%, pretty much what it should be today.

Socialism is illegal yet we had the best economy when the top tax rate was 70% and mw had the highest spending power in history.

Funny, I didn't see anything in the constitution, the declaration of Independence OR the Bill of Rights that banned socialism. I specifically remember a clause that stated "for the welfare of the people"...

Funny how people only want socialism when it benefits them. Let the bankers have $billions and take their vacations on our tax dollars, just for heaven's sake, don't give money to those that don't have any.....you need to tax them.

Exactly WHO is supporting the bail outs of the banks done by both Bush AND Obama? Certainly NOT me. Nor anyone else I know. Furthermore, if you actually read any of the documents you just cited, you would know that Socialism is banned. For instance, the Declaration of Independence specifically states "......and the pursuit of Happiness". One cannot pursue happiness if the government confiscates what they EARN and then distributes it based on the governments own agenda. Period. If you liberals weren't so anti-American, you would have actually read these critical documents and understood are history. Instead, like the other idiot anti-American's - the muslims - you drink the kool-aid of any idiot who feeds you anti-American propaganda. If you want Socialism so much, move your ass to Cuba sweetheart. Nobody is keeping you here. In fact, with views like yours, nobody even wants you here!

So, you only want to hear from people who have YOUR viewpoint..how communistic of you.

Too bad for you I did read the constitution and the Bill of Rights as well as the Declaration of Independence.

BTW, ever try to emmigrate to another country? OUrs is the only country in the world that takes in low skilled labor to compete with our own citizens.

Americans really can't emmigrate anywhere unless they have money.....

 

[Inthemiddle]

How about you guys establish what their fair share is, and then we can all measurably determine whether anyone is paying their fair share.

How about we get rid of this bullshit idea of a "fair" share and start talking about what will actually benefit our society.

 

[P@triot]

Hmm, socialism is illegal yet we gave $BILLIONS in taxpayer bailouts to companies that were irresponsible.

Socialism is illegal yet when the income tax started it was 90% on the top1%, pretty much what it should be today.

Socialism is illegal yet we had the best economy when the top tax rate was 70% and mw had the highest spending power in history.

Funny, I didn't see anything in the constitution, the declaration of Independence OR the Bill of Rights that banned socialism. I specifically remember a clause that stated "for the welfare of the people"...

Funny how people only want socialism when it benefits them. Let the bankers have $billions and take their vacations on our tax dollars, just for heaven's sake, don't give money to those that don't have any.....you need to tax them.

Exactly WHO is supporting the bail outs of the banks done by both Bush AND Obama? Certainly NOT me. Nor anyone else I know. Furthermore, if you actually read any of the documents you just cited, you would know that Socialism is banned. For instance, the Declaration of Independence specifically states "......and the pursuit of Happiness". One cannot pursue happiness if the government confiscates what they EARN and then distributes it based on the governments own agenda. Period. If you liberals weren't so anti-American, you would have actually read these critical documents and understood are history. Instead, like the other idiot anti-American's - the muslims - you drink the kool-aid of any idiot who feeds you anti-American propaganda. If you want Socialism so much, move your ass to Cuba sweetheart. Nobody is keeping you here. In fact, with views like yours, nobody even wants you here!

So, you only want to hear from people who have YOUR viewpoint..how communistic of you.

Too bad for you I did read the constitution and the Bill of Rights as well as the Declaration of Independence.

BTW, ever try to emmigrate to another country? OUrs is the only country in the world that takes in low skilled labor to compete with our own citizens.

Americans really can't emmigrate anywhere unless they have money.....

But that's just it - this isn't about "viewpoint". This is about FACTS. I defend your right to speak your view in America. In fact, despite loathing Socialism/Marxism/Communism, I would die to defend your right to speak about that and want that.

But there is a huge difference between saying, "I'm a Marxist, and I want to see the United States turn to Marxism" (ie opinion) and posting lies as truth (ie propaganda). The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution clearly states in black & white that this nation is built on the individual. The freedom for the individual to make the choices they want. The freedom for the individual to pursue what they want. And yet the left spreads lies about this, "interprets" what they want to see, and violates the law with their actions.

The funny/sad part is that our founding fathers were so brilliant, they built change right into the Constitution. If the left wants Marxism, all they have to do is get the proper votes and ammend the Constitution. But because they have so little respect for law, history, and our Constitution, they just piss all over it and do what ever they want, whether it is Constitutional or not. Tragic.

 

[P@triot]

People from Japan, China, Russia, England, Canada, India, and more all come here DAILY for the chance to pursue happiness.

And Americans are leaving the U.S. to go to those countries, too.

A Growing Trend of Leaving America - US News and World Report

Furthermore, working 50 hours a week in this wonderful country (until Obama took it over anyway) is a PRIVILEGE.

LOL well, that says a lot about your attitude. Excuse me if I don't consider it a privilege to slave for someone else's profit at absurd rates of compensation. I am not here to kiss the feet of the rich and powerful. Maybe you are. I guess that's your choice, but don't expect a lot of other people to share it.

And I note you still haven't answered the question about how much of the national income is taken in by the top X%. Once more, without that, the share of the tax burden they carry means nothing.

First of all, if you don't want to "slave" for someone else or "kiss the feet of the rich and powerful", then why don't you start your own company and have people "slave" for you?

Second, to answer your question (and apparently I missed that some where), 0% of the national income is taken by the top X%. That's because unlike the criminals on the left, the wealthy don't take, they earn. Now, if you want a specific answer on how much they earn, you have to cite a specific number. "X" is not a number my friend. You have to give me a specific number, and I will answer your question.

Third and finally, since you are so hung up on the poverty line, I think we need to establish what exactly is poor in the U.S. Why don't you take a look at these facts, that come straight from the big government you worship and want to grow:

The following are facts about persons defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau as taken from various government reports:

* 80% of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36% of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

* 92% of poor households have a microwave.

* Nearly 75% have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.

* Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.

* Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.

* 50% have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.

* More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.

* 43 percent have Internet access.

* One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.

* One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo

So in summary, here you sit crying and bitching that you A.) Live in America B.) Have a Job and C.) Have an extreme array of luxuries that people in Afghanistan or Somalia wouldn't even dare dream about. Air Conditioning. Internet. High Def tv's. Digital Recorders. PlayStation and Xbox game consoles. Yeah, it really sucks in America. It's so awful living in poverty.

This just proves you are lazy, ungrateful and greedy. But don't worry - you are not alone. The entire left is made up of lazy, ungrateful, and greedy people just like you! Maybe you can all get together and have a pitty-party...

 

[MikeK]

Exactly WHO is supporting the bail outs of the banks done by both Bush AND Obama? Certainly NOT me. Nor anyone else I know. Furthermore, if you actually read any of the documents you just cited, you would know that Socialism is banned. For instance, the Declaration of Independence specifically states "......and the pursuit of Happiness". One cannot pursue happiness if the government confiscates what they EARN and then distributes it based on the governments own agenda. [...]

Your assertion that socialism is "banned" in America either is a mistake or is wishful thinking. While the American Socialist Party changed its name to Social Democrats of America a few years ago its political philosophy remains the same and the party remains active.

And while your assertion that one cannot pursue happiness if government confiscates and redistributes one's earnings is true it also is vaguely academic because that circumstance does not exist nor has it ever existed in the U.S. The government presently confiscates a percentage of one's earnings, an expedient circumstance which in no way impedes the pursuit of happiness -- provided one's idea of happiness is predicated on reasonable objectives.

 

[MikeK]

0%[/B] of the national income is taken by the top X%. That's because unlike the criminals on the left, the wealthy don't take, they earn. Now, if you want a specific answer on how much they earn, you have to cite a specific number. "X" is not a number my friend. You have to give me a specific number, and I will answer your question.

Third and finally, since you are so hung up on the poverty line, I think we need to establish what exactly is poor in the U.S. Why don't you take a look at these facts, that come straight from the big government you worship and want to grow:

The following are facts about persons defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau as taken from various government reports:

* 80% of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36% of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

* 92% of poor households have a microwave.

* Nearly 75% have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.

* Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.

* Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.

* 50% have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.

* More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.

* 43 percent have Internet access.

* One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.

* One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo

So in summary, here you sit crying and bitching that you A.) Live in America B.) Have a Job and C.) Have an extreme array of luxuries that people in Afghanistan or Somalia wouldn't even dare dream about. Air Conditioning. Internet. High Def tv's. Digital Recorders. PlayStation and Xbox game consoles. Yeah, it really sucks in America. It's so awful living in poverty.

This just proves you are lazy, ungrateful and greedy. But don't worry - you are not alone. The entire left is made up of lazy, ungrateful, and greedy people just like you! Maybe you can all get together and have a pitty-party...

What are your thoughts about the circumstances described in the following article:

(Excerpt)

PINELLAS COUNTY, Fla. —

Jim Marshall recalls everything about that beautiful fall day.

The temperature was about 70 degrees on Nov. 19, the sky was "totally blue," and the laughter from a martini bar drifted into the St. Petersburg park where Marshall, 39, sat contemplating his first day of homelessness.

(PHOTOS: Tent cities help victims of a bad economy)

"I was thinking, 'That was me at one point,' " he says of the revelers. "Now I'm thinking, 'Where am I going to sleep tonight? Where do I eat? Where do I shower?' "

The unemployed Detroit autoworker moved to Florida last year hoping he'd have better luck finding a job. He didn't, and he spent three months sleeping on sidewalks before landing in a tent city in Pinellas County, north of St. Petersburg, on Feb. 26.

Marshall is among a growing number of the economic homeless, a term for those newly displaced by layoffs, foreclosures or other financial troubles caused by the recession. They differ from the chronic homeless, the longtime street residents who often suffer from mental illness, drug abuse or alcoholism.

For the economic homeless, the American ideal that education and hard work lead to a comfortable middle-class life has slipped out of reach. They're packing into motels, parking lots and tent cities, alternately distressed and hopeful, searching for work and praying their fortunes will change.[...]

(Close)

Full article here:
Economic casualties pile into tent cities - USATODAY.com

 

[MikeK]

The Top 1% do not earn their wealth. They pay 15% tax rate(if any taxes at all due to loop holes) on investments, while the other 99% pay a much higher tax rate on their money and do so the old fashion way, they earn it working for a living.

STOP listening to the propaganda that comes out of the top %, and from their misguided mouthpieces in the Republican Party. Think for yourself and support your own class, not the top 1%.

The fact that they chose the right investments which made money, proves they EARNED it.

[...]

If you would like to acquire a substantial education by simply watching a two hour video, go here: Netflix - Unlimited TV Shows & Movies Online

You can rent Inside Job from NetFlix or you can buy it from Amazon (and elsewhere). I promise watching it will change your mind about the concept of "earning."

Everyone who believes the super-rich should be paying a progressively higher tax rate does not expect to, or wish to, personally benefit from such a change in the tax code.

 

[auditor0007]

Sadly, they are paying WAY more than their fair share, while the lazy parasite class (ie liberals, progressives, Democrats, etc.) are along for the free ride in this country. These are numbers directly from the IRS and cannot be disputed:

The top 1% of EARNERS (key word here parasites - the wealthy EARN their wealth - they don't "have it" as you idiots like to say) pay almost 40% of all taxes.

The top 10% of EARNERS pay 70% of all taxes!!!

Meanwhile, the filthy liberal, progressive, Democrat lazy parasites earn 13% of the wealth but pay only 3%

This is ridiculously unfair. If they earn 13% of the wealth, they should shoulder the burden for 13% of the taxes. How can these idiot parasites complain the wealthy don't pay their fair share when the top 1% pays nearly 40% of all taxes, and the top 10% pays an asinine 70%?!?!?! More proof of how stupid the idiot liberal, progressive, Democrat parasites are....

What the Top 10 Percent of Earners Really Pay in Taxes

It's too bad that is such a lie. If you had half a brain, you would learn the truth about taxes instead of making outrageous statements that you cannot back up. The fact is that you make a statement that reflects federal income taxes and translate it into "all taxes". Read what you wrote. You said it and it is an outright lie.

All taxes include federal income taxes, corporate taxes, excise taxes, payroll taxes, state income taxes, state sales taxes, school taxes, property taxes, and many other taxes. And when all these taxes are included, this is the way it really works out.

Who pays how much
To put it in numbers, according to the analysis, the top 1 percent of earners account for 20.3 percent of total personal income in the United States and pay 21.5 percent of all federal and state taxes. The middle 20 percent of households earn 11.6 percent of US income and pay 10.3 percent of taxes. The lowest 20 percent account for just 3.5 percent of income, and pay 2 percent of all taxes.

Taxes and the rich: How much do they pay now? - CSMonitor.com

While the wealthy do pay a much larger percentage of federal income taxes, they pay a much smaller amount of payroll taxes. And when it comes to state taxes, the wealthy pay the smallest percentage of any group. The lowest income earners pay the most. But I'm sure you love Herman Cain's plan to tax the poorest people the most and the wealthiest the least, just like it's done at the state level. It makes sense too, right? Tax those with the least the most, and those with the most the least. That's how you idiots think.

 

[auditor0007]

Those top 10% buy politicians to change laws so they can legally screw the American people.

Right winger drooling morons are simply too fucking stupid to ever get that.

But lets look at some facts.

The economic meltdown led by Wall Street. How can trillions be taken out of the economy without anyone going to jail? Because what used to be against the law isn't. Not anymore.

How can the US Chamber of Commerce, financed by China, Russia and India, give tens of millions to Republican politicians 10 to 1 over Democrats, but then say, "Oh, we keep our money in "separate" accounts". Oh sure. Somehow, they come up with tens of millions of dollars from these countries. It disappears, but none of it ends up paying Republican politicians. Thanks to the Supreme Court, they get to keep their accounting secret. A conservative Supreme Court that has shown itself to be the most partisan in history, voting again and again 5 to 4.

Health care companies don't make anything. They down employ any doctors. They make their money from skimming insurance policies. How can such a CEO receive a paycheck for $100,000,000.00? How is that legally possible? Because NOW it's "legal".

Notice Republicans don't even seem to know that "supply and demand" is the foundation of capitalism. No wonder they see these scams as "capitalism" and as long as it's legal, it's OK! The fuckers.

It's not about how hard you work or how thrifty you are. It's about how much money you have and who you can pay off.

You're quote is as ignorant as you are. It's not Republicans job to "do something for others". It's YOUR job to get your lazy, pathetic, parasite ass up out of bed and do for YOURSELF. You lazy liberals make me sick. You've been blessed with the greatest country in the world that allows you to pursue anything you want, and you're all too damn lazy to get out of bed. You want Republicans to "do for you".

You're calling someone else ignorant, and you started this thread? LMAO!!!!

 

[P@triot]

Sadly, they are paying WAY more than their fair share, while the lazy parasite class (ie liberals, progressives, Democrats, etc.) are along for the free ride in this country. These are numbers directly from the IRS and cannot be disputed:

The top 1% of EARNERS (key word here parasites - the wealthy EARN their wealth - they don't "have it" as you idiots like to say) pay almost 40% of all taxes.

The top 10% of EARNERS pay 70% of all taxes!!!

Meanwhile, the filthy liberal, progressive, Democrat lazy parasites earn 13% of the wealth but pay only 3%

This is ridiculously unfair. If they earn 13% of the wealth, they should shoulder the burden for 13% of the taxes. How can these idiot parasites complain the wealthy don't pay their fair share when the top 1% pays nearly 40% of all taxes, and the top 10% pays an asinine 70%?!?!?! More proof of how stupid the idiot liberal, progressive, Democrat parasites are....

What the Top 10 Percent of Earners Really Pay in Taxes

It's too bad that is such a lie. If you had half a brain, you would learn the truth about taxes instead of making outrageous statements that you cannot back up. The fact is that you make a statement that reflects federal income taxes and translate it into "all taxes". Read what you wrote. You said it and it is an outright lie.

All taxes include federal income taxes, corporate taxes, excise taxes, payroll taxes, state income taxes, state sales taxes, school taxes, property taxes, and many other taxes. And when all these taxes are included, this is the way it really works out.

Who pays how much
To put it in numbers, according to the analysis, the top 1 percent of earners account for 20.3 percent of total personal income in the United States and pay 21.5 percent of all federal and state taxes. The middle 20 percent of households earn 11.6 percent of US income and pay 10.3 percent of taxes. The lowest 20 percent account for just 3.5 percent of income, and pay 2 percent of all taxes.

Taxes and the rich: How much do they pay now? - CSMonitor.com

While the wealthy do pay a much larger percentage of federal income taxes, they pay a much smaller amount of payroll taxes. And when it comes to state taxes, the wealthy pay the smallest percentage of any group. The lowest income earners pay the most. But I'm sure you love Herman Cain's plan to tax the poorest people the most and the wealthiest the least, just like it's done at the state level. It makes sense too, right? Tax those with the least the most, and those with the most the least. That's how you idiots think.

Actually, you are the only one lying - because those numbers come straight from the IRS itself. So you keep lying, I'll keep posting facts from the government agency that actually controls taxes.

 

[P@triot]

Those top 10% buy politicians to change laws so they can legally screw the American people.

Right winger drooling morons are simply too fucking stupid to ever get that.

But lets look at some facts.

The economic meltdown led by Wall Street. How can trillions be taken out of the economy without anyone going to jail? Because what used to be against the law isn't. Not anymore.

How can the US Chamber of Commerce, financed by China, Russia and India, give tens of millions to Republican politicians 10 to 1 over Democrats, but then say, "Oh, we keep our money in "separate" accounts". Oh sure. Somehow, they come up with tens of millions of dollars from these countries. It disappears, but none of it ends up paying Republican politicians. Thanks to the Supreme Court, they get to keep their accounting secret. A conservative Supreme Court that has shown itself to be the most partisan in history, voting again and again 5 to 4.

Health care companies don't make anything. They down employ any doctors. They make their money from skimming insurance policies. How can such a CEO receive a paycheck for $100,000,000.00? How is that legally possible? Because NOW it's "legal".

Notice Republicans don't even seem to know that "supply and demand" is the foundation of capitalism. No wonder they see these scams as "capitalism" and as long as it's legal, it's OK! The fuckers.

It's not about how hard you work or how thrifty you are. It's about how much money you have and who you can pay off.

You're quote is as ignorant as you are. It's not Republicans job to "do something for others". It's YOUR job to get your lazy, pathetic, parasite ass up out of bed and do for YOURSELF. You lazy liberals make me sick. You've been blessed with the greatest country in the world that allows you to pursue anything you want, and you're all too damn lazy to get out of bed. You want Republicans to "do for you".

You're calling someone else ignorant, and you started this thread? LMAO!!!!

Listen - you're clearly out of your league here. Why don't you let the adults talk and you go play. Once you grow up and get some education, you can come back and join us. The IRS releases actual tax information and your infinant ignorance, you challenge it and claim to be the ultimate authority. Sorry my sad, confused, and very brainwashed little friend - but people are going to listen to the facts and not your radical left-wing propaganda absurdity.

 

[auditor0007]

You're quote is as ignorant as you are. It's not Republicans job to "do something for others". It's YOUR job to get your lazy, pathetic, parasite ass up out of bed and do for YOURSELF. You lazy liberals make me sick. You've been blessed with the greatest country in the world that allows you to pursue anything you want, and you're all too damn lazy to get out of bed. You want Republicans to "do for you".

You're calling someone else ignorant, and you started this thread? LMAO!!!!

Listen - you're clearly out of your league here. Why don't you let the adults talk and you go play. Once you grow up and get some education, you can come back and join us. The IRS releases actual tax information and your infinant ignorance, you challenge it and claim to be the ultimate authority. Sorry my sad, confused, and very brainwashed little friend - but people are going to listen to the facts and not your radical left-wing propaganda absurdity.

You are one serious dipstick. You state percentages that pertain strictly to federal income taxes and then claim it as pertaining to "all taxes". What is it that you don't understand? You truly believe federal income taxes are the only taxes people pay? You better go back to school bud, because your lack of knowledge is shining through, and you're making yourself look like a true idiot.

 

[Dragon]

First of all, if you don't want to "slave" for someone else or "kiss the feet of the rich and powerful", then why don't you start your own company and have people "slave" for you?

I am, in fact, self-employed. This is not about me, but about the best way to organize the economy.

That's because unlike the criminals on the left, the wealthy don't take, they earn.

Anyone who employs anyone else is only partly earning what he makes. A part of it -- a bigger part depending on how many employees he has -- is actually earned by the labor of others. That's how capitalism works, the entire basis of it: those who own the means of production make money off the labor of others, not just their own.

Third and finally, since you are so hung up on the poverty line

That's a misunderstanding on your part. I'm talking about maldistribution of wealth in the U.S., which is not only unfair but also harmful to the economy, because it reduces consumer demand, which causes the economy to underperform. The poverty line is just an illustration. If someone can work 50 hours a week and still be considered to be living in poverty, that dramatically illustrates just how fucked up our economic system has become.

Anyone willing to work 50 hours a week should be drawing down at least a middle-class income. The only people who should be poor are those who either can't or won't work. Hard work should be well rewarded. If it isn't -- and obviously that's the case -- our economic system is diseased.

And I notice you STILL haven't answered the question about how much of the national income is taken by those who are paying such a large share of the tax burden. Come on, complete the picture. Until you do, you haven't said anything at all.

 

[P@triot]

You're calling someone else ignorant, and you started this thread? LMAO!!!!

Listen - you're clearly out of your league here. Why don't you let the adults talk and you go play. Once you grow up and get some education, you can come back and join us. The IRS releases actual tax information and your infinant ignorance, you challenge it and claim to be the ultimate authority. Sorry my sad, confused, and very brainwashed little friend - but people are going to listen to the facts and not your radical left-wing propaganda absurdity.

You are one serious dipstick. You state percentages that pertain strictly to federal income taxes and then claim it as pertaining to "all taxes". What is it that you don't understand? You truly believe federal income taxes are the only taxes people pay? You better go back to school bud, because your lack of knowledge is shining through, and you're making yourself look like a true idiot.

Listen son, like I said before, let the adults talk. Go play with your toys. The facts posted were about federal taxes, so I was referring to all federal taxes. The fact that I have to explain that to you clearly illustrates what a child you are. I guarantee you are about 15 and brainwahsed by some loser mommy and daddy who hates their own lot in life and aren't willing to take responsibility for it.

It's unbelievable that your so stupid, I have to explain this to you. Even at 15 you should know better.

 

[Dragon]

Listen son, like I said before, let the adults talk. Go play with your toys. . . . The fact that I have to explain that to you clearly illustrates what a child you are. I guarantee you are about 15 and brainwahsed by some loser mommy and daddy who hates their own lot in life and aren't willing to take responsibility for it.

It's unbelievable that your so stupid, I have to explain this to you. Even at 15 you should know better.

From the Rules and Guidelines:

"Derogatory statements directed at other members as well as direct or indirect personal attacks are permitted with the stipulation that you generally look like a fool when resorting to these tactics within a serious conversation on real issues. If you're comfortable playing the fool, feel free to do so."

I feel that's good advice. If you can't make your case without resorting to cheap shots and personal insults, that shows you don't have much of a case to make.

Quite bluntly, Rottweiler, he's not the one exhibiting immature behavior here, who deserves to be called a "child." Courtesy costs you nothing and gains you the respect you are currently forfeiting.