[FACT] The Real Political Spectrum, and Why it is Correct

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    Lets begin by showcasing the incorrect political spectrum and why it is broken. (Special thanks to Hazlnut for the image :eusa_clap:)

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    If we look closely at this chart we will notice that both the Right and Authoritarian vertices are sub-labled as "(conservative)."

    This of course would effectively make the upper-right quadrant of the chart self-contradicting, as any form of authoritarianism cannot coexist with libertarianism. Simply put, they are polar opposites. Thus rendering this chart broken and useless.

    A much simpler and accurate way of describing a political spectrum would be by government control, with each extremity of the spectrum being polar opposites to each other. Like SniperFire put it;

    So lets start off by identifying forms of government and list them according to the level of control they possess.

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    So if we were to make a political spectrum classifying ideologies into this format, we'd have something along the lines of this:

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    Sources: Political "Left" and "Right" Accurately Defined

    An Objective Political Spectrum: 100% Pro-Choice Means 100% Moral Government - Forbes

    And now with pictures.

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    This is the most accurate way of representing each political leaning's current ideology. :eusa_angel:
     
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    I like the concept.and have been using Political Compass - Analysis for some time. The whole NAZI Germany on the left thing is another debate but hey, perhaps they are talking the NAZI party before Hitler or am I reading it wrong and they are super authoritarian?
     
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    Fact? Where is the body of evidence supporting this fact?
     
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    This is in fact, correct. In current context, the argument is based on how much control government we should have in our lives. The founding fathers envisioned a country where gov't protects the people, but generally gets out of the way.

    The progressives (of both parties), in their neverending quest for more power, have pointed the finger at the "Right" and placed blame wherever they can, as cover for what they are doing, which is increasing governments role in all of our lives, which limits our liberties one small step at a time (ever cook a frog?). The progressives have also taken advantage of both parties quest for more power, which is why sometimes it seems that the republicans play into the hands of the democracts, and vice-versa.

    So we have a power hungry representation, which is being coopted by progressive elements who want nothing more than control of the largest economy in the world. Yes it really is all about money and power.
     
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    But then you still have libertarianism on the extreme of two vertices. And since liberty cannot be imposed by force, the upper right quadrant would again be rendered moot.

    I also don't see the difference between left and right libertarianism. Either you believe everyone is free to act unless they are in violation of the rights of others, or you don't. :tongue:

    And the Nazis being on the left is definitely a whole different debate. We're actually talking about it here:

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/271883-but-arent-nazis-and-fascists-really-left-wingers.html
     
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    I totally agree with you. The "Right" have in power today is definitely on the left of the political spectrum. Slightly to the right of liberals, but to the left nonetheless. :tongue:
     
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    Here we go again with the radical right wing nonsense.
     
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    In every dictionary and encyclopoedia in the world a republic is a type of democracy.


    trying to change definitions to fit your historically failed ideas is dishonest
     
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    Anybody who postulates that Hitler was a Libertarian should just stop ingesting valuable oxygen and off himself.

    LOL
     
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    Democracy - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary



    de·moc·ra·cy
    noun \di-ˈmä-krə-sē\
    pluralde·moc·ra·cies








    Definition of DEMOCRACY


    1

    a: government by the people; especially: rule of the majority

    b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
     

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