FACT: Obama is GWB on Super Steriods, I told you people

[sinister59]

Now he bombs the very same place Reagan did with Tomahawk missiles in the 80s
Until recently the up-tick in predator drone attacks in Pakistan made W look like a saint.

And this "action" with Libya, Congress okay with this?
people forget that Congress approved the war with Iraq

I told yawl a week ago
BHO is GWB on steriods

He should be impeached for this. Seriously. He takes every questionable move Bush did and steps it up a few notches in the wrong direction.

I am telling you people this man is GWB on super steroids
Deficit spending
billions vs trillions
Gitmo
Ditto
I mean GWB took 18 months and had two resolutions supporting him from congress before he invades Iraq
BHO attacks Libya while on vacation
I am as serious as you are

this was from 1998, we had another one in 2002

H.R.4655
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Enrolled Bill (Sent to President))



Bill Summary & Status for the 105th Congress

H.R.4655
Public Law: 105-338 (10/31/98)
SPONSOR: Rep Gilman (introduced 09/29/98)

RELATED BILLS: S.2525

TITLE(S):

SHORT TITLE(S) AS INTRODUCED:
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
SHORT TITLE(S) AS PASSED HOUSE:
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
SHORT TITLE(S) AS ENACTED:
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED:
A bill to establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq.
STATUS: Floor Actions
10/31/98 Public Law 105-338 (11/12/98 CR D1205)
10/20/98 Measure presented to President (10/21/98 CR H11704)
10/20/98 Enrolled Measure signed in Senate (CR S12718)
10/19/98 Enrolled Measure signed in House (CR H11546)
10/07/98 Measure passed Senate (CR S11812)
10/07/98 Measure considered in Senate (CR S11811-11812)
10/07/98 Measure called up by unanimous consent in Senate (CR S11811)
10/05/98 Measure passed House, amended, roll call #482 (360-38) (CR H9494)
10/05/98 Measure considered in House (CR H9486-9494)
10/05/98 Measure called up under motion to suspend rules and pass in House (CR H9486)

STATUS: Detailed Legislative Status

House Actions

Sep 29, 98:
Referred to the House Committee on International Relations.
Oct 2, 98:
Committee Consideration and Mark-up Session Held.
Oct 2, 98:
Committee Agreed to Seek Consideration Under Suspension of the Rules, (Amended) by Voice Vote.
Oct 5, 98:
Called up by House under suspension of the rules.
Considered by House as unfinished business.
Passed House (Amended) by Yea-Nay Vote: 360 - 38 (Roll No. 482).
Senate Actions

Oct 6, 98:
Received in the Senate, read twice.
Oct 7, 98:
Passed Senate without amendment by Unanimous Consent.
Oct 8, 98:
Message on Senate action sent to the House.
Executive Actions

Oct 7, 98:
Cleared for White House.
Oct 20, 98:
Presented to President.
Oct 31, 98:
Became Public Law No: 105-338.
Signed by President.
STATUS: Congressional Record Page References


10/01/98 Introductory remarks on Measure (CR E1857)
10/05/98 Full text of Measure as passed House printed (CR H9486-9487)

COMMITTEE(S):

COMMITTEE(S) OF REFERRAL:
House International Relations
AMENDMENT(S):
***NONE***

COSPONSORS(1):

Rep Cox - 09/29/98

SUMMARY:

(REVISED AS OF 10/05/98 -- Passed House, amended)

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.

Authorizes the President, after notifying specified congressional committees, to provide to the Iraqi democratic opposition organizations: (1) grant assistance for radio and television broadcasting to Iraq; (2) Department of Defense (DOD) defense articles and services and military education and training (IMET); and (3) humanitarian assistance, with emphasis on addressing the needs of individuals who have fled from areas under the control of the Hussein regime. Prohibits assistance to any group or organization that is engaged in military cooperation with the Hussein regime. Authorizes appropriations.

Directs the President to designate: (1) one or more Iraqi democratic opposition organizations that meet specified criteria as eligible to receive assistance under this Act; and (2) additional such organizations which satisfy the President's criteria.

Urges the President to call upon the United Nations to establish an international criminal tribunal for the purpose of indicting, prosecuting, and imprisoning Saddam Hussein and other Iraqi officials who are responsible for crimes against humanity, genocide, and other criminal violations of international law.

Expresses the sense of the Congress that once the Saddam Hussein regime is removed from power in Iraq, the United States should support Iraq's transition to democracy by providing humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people and democracy transition assistance to Iraqi parties and movements with democratic goals, including convening Iraq's foreign creditors to develop a multilateral response to the foreign debt incurred by the Hussein regime.






H.R.4655
Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Enrolled Bill (Sent to President))


One Hundred Fifth Congress

of the

United States of America

AT THE SECOND SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,

the twenty-seventh day of January, one thousand nine hundred and ninety-eight

An Act

To establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Iraq Liberation Act of 1998'.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress makes the following findings:
(1) On September 22, 1980, Iraq invaded Iran, starting an 8 year war in which Iraq employed chemical weapons against Iranian troops and ballistic missiles against Iranian cities.
(2) In February 1988, Iraq forcibly relocated Kurdish civilians from their home villages in the Anfal campaign, killing an estimated 50,000 to 180,000 Kurds.
(3) On March 16, 1988, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurdish civilian opponents in the town of Halabja, killing an estimated 5,000 Kurds and causing numerous birth defects that affect the town today.
(4) On August 2, 1990, Iraq invaded and began a 7 month occupation of Kuwait, killing and committing numerous abuses against Kuwaiti civilians, and setting Kuwait's oil wells ablaze upon retreat.
(5) Hostilities in Operation Desert Storm ended on February 28, 1991, and Iraq subsequently accepted the ceasefire conditions specified in United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (April 3, 1991) requiring Iraq, among other things, to disclose fully and permit the dismantlement of its weapons of mass destruction programs and submit to long-term monitoring and verification of such dismantlement.
(6) In April 1993, Iraq orchestrated a failed plot to assassinate former President George Bush during his April 14-16, 1993, visit to Kuwait.
(7) In October 1994, Iraq moved 80,000 troops to areas near the border with Kuwait, posing an imminent threat of a renewed invasion of or attack against Kuwait.
(8) On August 31, 1996, Iraq suppressed many of its opponents by helping one Kurdish faction capture Irbil, the seat of the Kurdish regional government.
(9) Since March 1996, Iraq has systematically sought to deny weapons inspectors from the United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) access to key facilities and documents, has on several occasions endangered the safe operation of UNSCOM helicopters transporting UNSCOM personnel in Iraq, and has persisted in a pattern of deception and concealment regarding the history of its weapons of mass destruction programs.
(10) On August 5, 1998, Iraq ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM, and subsequently threatened to end long-term monitoring activities by the International Atomic Energy Agency and UNSCOM.
(11) On August 14, 1998, President Clinton signed Public Law 105-235, which declared that `the Government of Iraq is in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations.'.
(12) On May 1, 1998, President Clinton signed Public Law 105-174, which made $5,000,000 available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition for such activities as organization, training, communication and dissemination of information, developing and implementing agreements among opposition groups, compiling information to support the indictment of Iraqi officials for war crimes, and for related purposes.
SEC. 3. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS REGARDING UNITED STATES POLICY TOWARD IRAQ.

It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.
SEC. 4. ASSISTANCE TO SUPPORT A TRANSITION TO DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ.

(a) AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE- The President may provide to the Iraqi democratic opposition organizations designated in accordance with section 5 the following assistance:
(1) BROADCASTING ASSISTANCE- (A) Grant assistance to such organizations for radio and television broadcasting by such organizations to Iraq.
(B) There is authorized to be appropriated to the United States Information Agency $2,000,000 for fiscal year 1999 to carry out this paragraph.
(2) MILITARY ASSISTANCE- (A) The President is authorized to direct the drawdown of defense articles from the stocks of the Department of Defense, defense services of the Department of Defense, and military education and training for such organizations.
(B) The aggregate value (as defined in section 644(m) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961) of assistance provided under this paragraph may not exceed $97,000,000.
(b) HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE- The Congress urges the President to use existing authorities under the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to provide humanitarian assistance to individuals living in areas of Iraq controlled by organizations designated in accordance with section 5, with emphasis on addressing the needs of individuals who have fled to such areas from areas under the control of the Saddam Hussein regime.
(c) RESTRICTION ON ASSISTANCE- No assistance under this section shall be provided to any group within an organization designated in accordance with section 5 which group is, at the time the assistance is to be provided, engaged in military cooperation with the Saddam Hussein regime.
(d) NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT- The President shall notify the congressional committees specified in section 634A of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 at least 15 days in advance of each obligation of assistance under this section in accordance with the procedures applicable to reprogramming notifications under section 634A.
(e) REIMBURSEMENT RELATING TO MILITARY ASSISTANCE-
(1) IN GENERAL- Defense articles, defense services, and military education and training provided under subsection (a)(2) shall be made available without reimbursement to the Department of Defense except to the extent that funds are appropriated pursuant to paragraph (2).
(2) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There are authorized to be appropriated to the President for each of the fiscal years 1998 and 1999 such sums as may be necessary to reimburse the applicable appropriation, fund, or account for the value (as defined in section 644(m) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961) of defense articles, defense services, or military education and training provided under subsection (a)(2).
(f) AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS- (1) Amounts authorized to be appropriated under this section are authorized to remain available until expended.
(2) Amounts authorized to be appropriated under this section are in addition to amounts otherwise available for the purposes described in this section.
(g) AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE- Activities under this section (including activities of the nature described in subsection (b)) may be undertaken notwithstanding any other provision of law.
SEC. 5. DESIGNATION OF IRAQI DEMOCRATIC OPPOSITION ORGANIZATION.

(a) INITIAL DESIGNATION- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act , the President shall designate one or more Iraqi democratic opposition organizations that the President determines satisfy the criteria set forth in subsection (c) as eligible to receive assistance under section 4.
(b) DESIGNATION OF ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS- At any time subsequent to the initial designation pursuant to subsection (a), the President may designate one or more additional Iraqi democratic opposition organizations that the President determines satisfy the criteria set forth in subsection (c) as eligible to receive assistance under section 4.
(c) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION- In designating an organization pursuant to this section, the President shall consider only organizations that--
(1) include a broad spectrum of Iraqi individuals, groups, or both, opposed to the Saddam Hussein regime; and
(2) are committed to democratic values, to respect for human rights, to peaceful relations with Iraq's neighbors, to maintaining Iraq's territorial integrity, and to fostering cooperation among democratic opponents of the Saddam Hussein regime.
(d) NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT- At least 15 days in advance of designating an Iraqi democratic opposition organization pursuant to this section, the President shall notify the congressional committees specified in section 634A of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 of his proposed designation in accordance with the procedures applicable to reprogramming notifications under section 634A.
SEC. 6. WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL FOR IRAQ.

Consistent with section 301 of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1992 and 1993 (Public Law 102-138), House Concurrent Resolution 137, 105th Congress (approved by the House of Representatives on November 13, 1997), and Senate Concurrent Resolution 78, 105th Congress (approved by the Senate on March 13, 1998), the Congress urges the President to call upon the United Nations to establish an international criminal tribunal for the purpose of indicting, prosecuting, and imprisoning Saddam Hussein and other Iraqi officials who are responsible for crimes against humanity, genocide, and other criminal violations of international law.
SEC. 7. ASSISTANCE FOR IRAQ UPON REPLACEMENT OF SADDAM HUSSEIN REGIME.

It is the sense of the Congress that once the Saddam Hussein regime is removed from power in Iraq, the United States should support Iraq's transition to democracy by providing immediate and substantial humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, by providing democracy transition assistance to Iraqi parties and movements with democratic goals, and by convening Iraq's foreign creditors to develop a multilateral response to Iraq's foreign debt incurred by Saddam Hussein's regime.
SEC. 8. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize or otherwise speak to the use of United States Armed Forces (except as provided in section 4(a)(2)) in carrying out this Act .
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and President of the Senate.

has Obama created post like home land security ?spent like bush ?
states waist more money the the feds .

 

[McDowell's]

Where in that document is the declaration of war?


BTW THIS IS NOT OBAMA ITS THE UN

Truth, there is NO requirement that any president act on a U/N. mandate (there's nothing forbidding it either). Right now, Obama is acting in accordance with the War Powers Act; no declaration of war is required, at this time.What's been done to this point appears to me to be both legal, and constitutional, and until it plays out, I am in favor of giving the president the latitude and flexibility to do what he thinks is necessary, within the prescribed legal and constitutional boundaries. Make no mistake, however; the Commander-in-Chief ordered this action, and will ultimately be accountable for its success or failure. The buck, as Harry Truman famously noted, stops on that desk in the Oval Office, not at the U.N.. With authority and discretion (which any president has a considerable amount of, and should) comes a corresponding responsibility. I'll give this action full support, until it has a chance to play out; but if it fails, I'll certainly demand that Obama be accountable.

What is the serious threat to the United States and its citizens that President Obama cited as the justification for military action against Qaddafi?

 

[JRK]

Where in that document is the declaration of war?


BTW THIS IS NOT OBAMA ITS THE UN

Truth, there is NO requirement that any president act on a U/N. mandate (there's nothing forbidding it either). Right now, Obama is acting in accordance with the War Powers Act; no declaration of war is required, at this time.What's been done to this point appears to me to be both legal, and constitutional, and until it plays out, I am in favor of giving the president the latitude and flexibility to do what he thinks is necessary, within the prescribed legal and constitutional boundaries. Make no mistake, however; the Commander-in-Chief ordered this action, and will ultimately be accountable for its success or failure. The buck, as Harry Truman famously noted, stops on that desk in the Oval Office, not at the U.N.. With authority and discretion (which any president has a considerable amount of, and should) comes a corresponding responsibility. I'll give this action full support, until it has a chance to play out; but if it fails, I'll certainly demand that Obama be accountable.

What is the serious threat to the United States and its citizens that President Obama cited as the justification for military action against Qaddafi?

You know the president (Obama) went bonkers over the way W dealt with Iraq, and he just picks the phone up and decides to kill some people
no-one talks about the innocent people the un manned drones going into Pakistan have killed sense 1/2009. He took GWB and went super steroid with that deal
The UN? The Un (blix) claims 1/2003, well read for your self

This was the event that pulled the trigger on Iraq, not the CIA, no one else

Iraq has not yet come to genuinely accept disarmament, according to Hans Blix, the United Nations's chief weapons inspector.
Iraq has co-operated with his team on providing access but it needed to go further, Mr Blix told the UN Security Council.
He said: "It would appear from our experience so far that Iraq has decided in principle to provide co-operation on process, notably access.
"A similar decision is indispensable to provide co-operation on substance in order to bring the disarmament task to completion, through the peaceful process of inspection, and to bring the monitoring task on a firm course."
Touching on the question of how much time inspectors need, he said he shared "the sense of urgency" to achieve disarmament within "a reasonable period of time".
The UN Security Council was meeting to hear Mr Blix's first report following the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq last November.
Of the declaration of weapons made by Iraq under UN resolution 1441, he said: "Regrettably, the 12,000-page declaration does not seem to contain any new material."
Mr Blix said the declaration had failed to account for 6,500 chemical warfare bombs, adding that 12 empty chemical warheads recently found in a bunker south of Baghdad "could be the tip of the iceberg".
Iraq had also failed to prove it had destroyed all of its anthrax, Mr Blix said. There were "strong indications" that it had produced more than it had admitted.
He recalled that Iraq had declared that it produced 8,500 litres of anthrax and unilaterally destroyed the stock in the summer of 1991. But there was "no convincing evidence of destruction," he said.
He added that Iraq had not fully accounted for stocks of precursor chemicals used to make VX nerve gas. Baghdad had also lied about how close it had come to weaponising the gas in the late 1980s.
Mr Blix added that Iraq has refused to co-operate with a request from UN weapons inspectors regarding flights of U-2 spy planes for aerial imagery and surveillance.
Mr Blix, who is charged with overseeing the elimination of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons and long-range missiles, was accompanied by Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
Mr ElBaradei said that his inspectors had found no evidence that Iraq had revived its weapons programme after it was destroyed following the Gulf War.
But he said that inspectors needed more time to provide "credible assurance" that Iraq has no nuclear weapons programme.
He also urged Iraq to provide more information about the pre-1991 weapons programme.
John Negroponte, the United States ambassador to the UN, said that nothing Mr Blix and Mr ElBaradei had said indicated that Iraq had disarmed. He said: "Iraq is back to business as usual."

 

[JRK]

Now Obama is going to hold military tribunals at Gitmo in stead of the court room in New York, the circle is all most complete

 

[sinister59]

Now Obama is going to hold military tribunals at Gitmo in stead of the court room in New York, the circle is all most complete

you tell half truths like any teabagger , you should work for fox news .

 

[JRK]

Now Obama is going to hold military tribunals at Gitmo in stead of the court room in New York, the circle is all most complete

you tell half truths like any teabagger , you should work for fox news .

No I tell the truth the media will not tell. there is no 1/2 truth to the Gitmo situation. GWB had those people detained there for the same reason BHO decided to do the same. Difference was GWB knew that right away, he never lived in a place where people thought denial was a river in Egypt

 

[sinister59]

Now Obama is going to hold military tribunals at Gitmo in stead of the court room in New York, the circle is all most complete

you tell half truths like any teabagger , you should work for fox news .

No I tell the truth the media will not tell. there is no 1/2 truth to the Gitmo situation. GWB had those people detained there for the same reason BHO decided to do the same. Difference was GWB knew that right away, he never lived in a place where people thought denial was a river in Egypt

what you don't say is the state of new york will not allow the trials in state nor will any-other state , that it has to be this way not the presidents choice .

 

[JRK]

you tell half truths like any teabagger , you should work for fox news .

No I tell the truth the media will not tell. there is no 1/2 truth to the Gitmo situation. GWB had those people detained there for the same reason BHO decided to do the same. Difference was GWB knew that right away, he never lived in a place where people thought denial was a river in Egypt

what you don't say is the state of new york will not allow the trials in state nor will any-other state , that it has to be this way not the presidents choice .

does the reason GWB did not try and have those trials in the US as well as detain them in Cuba and the reason BHO doing the same matter?
what does that have to do with Bush as usual must have been doing the right thing

 

[sinister59]

No I tell the truth the media will not tell. there is no 1/2 truth to the Gitmo situation. GWB had those people detained there for the same reason BHO decided to do the same. Difference was GWB knew that right away, he never lived in a place where people thought denial was a river in Egypt

what you don't say is the state of new york will not allow the trials in state nor will any-other state , that it has to be this way not the presidents choice .

does the reason GWB did not try and have those trials in the US as well as detain them in Cuba and the reason BHO doing the same matter?
what does that have to do with Bush as usual must have been doing the right thing

where in my post did I mention bush ?

 

[JRK]

what you don't say is the state of new york will not allow the trials in state nor will any-other state , that it has to be this way not the presidents choice .

does the reason GWB did not try and have those trials in the US as well as detain them in Cuba and the reason BHO doing the same matter?
what does that have to do with Bush as usual must have been doing the right thing

where in my post did I mention bush ?

My subject matter does
What better way to show just how screwed up the media and the Liberal is
It is my intent
GWB did everything wrong (according to the press and the liberal)and from tax policy to deficit spending to Glass Segall ot repealing it) to Git-mo to No teacher left behind to stimuluses, If W did it, BHO did it and in some cases like deficit spending did it 10 times as much
Yet you adore and defend him and hate W.
Same with the press
Its what the thread is about

 

[sinister59]

does the reason GWB did not try and have those trials in the US as well as detain them in Cuba and the reason BHO doing the same matter?
what does that have to do with Bush as usual must have been doing the right thing

where in my post did I mention bush ?

My subject matter does
What better way to show just how screwed up the media and the Liberal is
It is my intent
GWB did everything wrong (according to the press and the liberal)and from tax policy to deficit spending to Glass Segall ot repealing it) to Git-mo to No teacher left behind to stimuluses, If W did it, BHO did it and in some cases like deficit spending did it 10 times as much
Yet you adore and defend him and hate W.
Same with the press
Its what the thread is about

oh quit whining .
you repig still hate Bill Clinton , and he had us prospering , W touch the projected serpluse and turn it into a trillion dollar deficit , but still George shot himself in the foot he made up wards in speeches , got us into a war in Iraq for no good reason , now I wont blame W for 9/11 even though it happened on his watch , all the signes that wore reported to the government before hand , not even when attacks on the twin towers happen twice before , but I will on his non action with Catrina , as for as his "no child " left behind he never funded it , it was election redirect nothing more .

Obama handled the financial crash , he did what he had to in the bail out , blame the banking institutions for that .

now the teabaggers want all regulations on banks removed , thats what got us in the shit can .

he has tried fore health care , so if you go into the hospital your not paying for every non insured clown in the emergency room .

he's turning our reputation in the world around , and trying to get us off foreign oil
against the party of NO! , they don't want compromise, show me were he's bad for us . they want defeat of his office .

yes I like him .

 

[JRK]

where in my post did I mention bush ?

My subject matter does
What better way to show just how screwed up the media and the Liberal is
It is my intent
GWB did everything wrong (according to the press and the liberal)and from tax policy to deficit spending to Glass Segall ot repealing it) to Git-mo to No teacher left behind to stimuluses, If W did it, BHO did it and in some cases like deficit spending did it 10 times as much
Yet you adore and defend him and hate W.
Same with the press
Its what the thread is about

oh quit whining .
you repig still hate Bill Clinton , and he had us prospering , W touch the projected serpluse and turn it into a trillion dollar deficit , but still George shot himself in the foot he made up wards in speeches , got us into a war in Iraq for no good reason , now I wont blame W for 9/11 even though it happened on his watch , all the signes that wore reported to the government before hand , not even when attacks on the twin towers happen twice before , but I will on his non action with Catrina , as for as his "no child " left behind he never funded it , it was election redirect nothing more .

Obama handled the financial crash , he did what he had to in the bail out , blame the banking institutions for that .

now the teabaggers want all regulations on banks removed , thats what got us in the shit can .

he has tried fore health care , so if you go into the hospital your not paying for every non insured clown in the emergency room .

he's turning our reputation in the world around , and trying to get us off foreign oil
against the party of NO! , they don't want compromise, show me were he's bad for us . they want defeat of his office .

yes I like him .

Whining?
Clinton left us a what?

ime and time again, anyone reading the mainstream news or reading articles on the Internet will read the claim that President Clinton not only balanced the budget, but had a surplus. This is then used as an argument to further highlight the fiscal irresponsibility of the federal government under the Bush administration.

The claim is generally made that Clinton had a surplus of $69 billion in FY1998, $123 billion in FY1999 and $230 billion in FY2000 . In that same link, Clinton claimed that the national debt had been reduced by $360 billion in the last three years, presumably FY1998, FY1999, and FY2000--though, interestingly, $360 billion is not the sum of the alleged surpluses of the three years in question ($69B + $123B + $230B = $422B, not $360B).

While not defending the increase of the federal debt under President Bush, it's curious to see Clinton's record promoted as having generated a surplus. It never happened. There was never a surplus and the facts support that position. In fact, far from a $360 billion reduction in the national debt in FY1998-FY2000, there was an increase of $281 billion.

Verifying this is as simple as accessing the U.S. Treasury (see note about this link below) website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained. Considering the government's fiscal year ends on the last day of September each year, and considering Clinton's budget proposal in 1993 took effect in October 1993 and concluded September 1994 (FY1994), here's the national debt at the end of each year of Clinton Budgets:

Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion
That should take care of that surplus

What signs (intelligence) stated 19 insanely motivated Saudis with leather mans would take over 4 passenger jets and turn them into scud missiles on 9-11-2001?
what did Obama do to handle the crash? vote for tarp?
tarp stopped the crash, the jobs went away and nothing but time can make them come back
This is why the 1.2 trillion BHO used as a "never let a crises go to waste" deficit slush fund/UAW/GMAC/Teachers? did not work and we are still millions of jobs shy of where we were 1008
De Regulations?
that would be Glass Segall
1999
it had a total of 9 votes in the senate vote against it and there is no debate as who the president was and how much it had to do with the housing bubble (I was and am still for it, the people caused this mess, not the Govt)
The repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between Wall Street investment banks and depository banks. There is debate as to what role the repeal may have played in the Financial crisis of 2007–2010.

 

[sinister59]

My subject matter does
What better way to show just how screwed up the media and the Liberal is
It is my intent
GWB did everything wrong (according to the press and the liberal)and from tax policy to deficit spending to Glass Segall ot repealing it) to Git-mo to No teacher left behind to stimuluses, If W did it, BHO did it and in some cases like deficit spending did it 10 times as much
Yet you adore and defend him and hate W.
Same with the press
Its what the thread is about

oh quit whining .
you repig still hate Bill Clinton , and he had us prospering , W touch the projected serpluse and turn it into a trillion dollar deficit , but still George shot himself in the foot he made up wards in speeches , got us into a war in Iraq for no good reason , now I wont blame W for 9/11 even though it happened on his watch , all the signes that wore reported to the government before hand , not even when attacks on the twin towers happen twice before , but I will on his non action with Catrina , as for as his "no child " left behind he never funded it , it was election redirect nothing more .

Obama handled the financial crash , he did what he had to in the bail out , blame the banking institutions for that .

now the teabaggers want all regulations on banks removed , thats what got us in the shit can .

he has tried fore health care , so if you go into the hospital your not paying for every non insured clown in the emergency room .

he's turning our reputation in the world around , and trying to get us off foreign oil
against the party of NO! , they don't want compromise, show me were he's bad for us . they want defeat of his office .

yes I like him .

Whining?
Clinton left us a what?

ime and time again, anyone reading the mainstream news or reading articles on the Internet will read the claim that President Clinton not only balanced the budget, but had a surplus. This is then used as an argument to further highlight the fiscal irresponsibility of the federal government under the Bush administration.

The claim is generally made that Clinton had a surplus of $69 billion in FY1998, $123 billion in FY1999 and $230 billion in FY2000 . In that same link, Clinton claimed that the national debt had been reduced by $360 billion in the last three years, presumably FY1998, FY1999, and FY2000--though, interestingly, $360 billion is not the sum of the alleged surpluses of the three years in question ($69B + $123B + $230B = $422B, not $360B).

While not defending the increase of the federal debt under President Bush, it's curious to see Clinton's record promoted as having generated a surplus. It never happened. There was never a surplus and the facts support that position. In fact, far from a $360 billion reduction in the national debt in FY1998-FY2000, there was an increase of $281 billion.

Verifying this is as simple as accessing the U.S. Treasury (see note about this link below) website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained. Considering the government's fiscal year ends on the last day of September each year, and considering Clinton's budget proposal in 1993 took effect in October 1993 and concluded September 1994 (FY1994), here's the national debt at the end of each year of Clinton Budgets:

Fiscal
Year Year
Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion
That should take care of that surplus

What signs (intelligence) stated 19 insanely motivated Saudis with leather mans would take over 4 passenger jets and turn them into scud missiles on 9-11-2001?
what did Obama do to handle the crash? vote for tarp?
tarp stopped the crash, the jobs went away and nothing but time can make them come back
This is why the 1.2 trillion BHO used as a "never let a crises go to waste" deficit slush fund/UAW/GMAC/Teachers? did not work and we are still millions of jobs shy of where we were 1008
De Regulations?
that would be Glass Segall
1999
it had a total of 9 votes in the senate vote against it and there is no debate as who the president was and how much it had to do with the housing bubble (I was and am still for it, the people caused this mess, not the Govt)
The repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between Wall Street investment banks and depository banks. There is debate as to what role the repeal may have played in the Financial crisis of 2007–2010.

of course it never happened , bush gave it away to the rich .

we had good jobs , so much that Americans refused jobs to hard and demeaning , like farm hand , no one was going to pick vegetables not at those pay .

 

[Hot Wire]

It is crazy
bombing same exact tent Reagan did in the 80

And he said something he would never do it again and we as a country should never do it again.

I'm not a Reagan fan, but on this he was right, the Middle East simply can't be americanized, so stop trying.

I wonder at what point and time the american public as a whole will take notice

I noticed before the fascist pig obama got elected!I despise and loath that evil animal obama and iam proud to say I never voted for him!

 

[JRK]

And he said something he would never do it again and we as a country should never do it again.

I'm not a Reagan fan, but on this he was right, the Middle East simply can't be americanized, so stop trying.

I wonder at what point and time the american public as a whole will take notice

I noticed before the fascist pig obama got elected!I despise and loath that evil animal obama and iam proud to say I never voted for him!

I am not as rough on the way you state your position, but I do agree

 

[sinister59]

And he said something he would never do it again and we as a country should never do it again.

I'm not a Reagan fan, but on this he was right, the Middle East simply can't be americanized, so stop trying.

I wonder at what point and time the american public as a whole will take notice

I noticed before the fascist pig obama got elected!I despise and loath that evil animal obama and iam proud to say I never voted for him!

wow , fascist ? really ? or is this just your bigoted ass talking , you'd vote for the idiot palin ? your a fool .

 

[JRK]

I wonder at what point and time the american public as a whole will take notice

I noticed before the fascist pig obama got elected!I despise and loath that evil animal obama and iam proud to say I never voted for him!

wow , fascist ? really ? or is this just your bigoted ass talking , you'd vote for the idiot palin ? your a fool .

there is no reason to call one a pig and Obama a pig
I like Palin, but I would not vote for her except if Obama was the only choice besides her. She at least would not have added trillions to our debt and we would be about the same place

 

[LibocalypseNow]

"Hope & Change" = Ha Ha! you Suckers. You Dummies will believe anything wont ya?

 

[sinister59]

I noticed before the fascist pig obama got elected!I despise and loath that evil animal obama and iam proud to say I never voted for him!

wow , fascist ? really ? or is this just your bigoted ass talking , you'd vote for the idiot palin ? your a fool .

there is no reason to call one a pig and Obama a pig
I like Palin, but I would not vote for her except if Obama was the only choice besides her. She at least would not have added trillions to our debt and we would be about the same place

What ? she spent 400,000 on wardrobe for her and her family with republican campaign funds , can you really prove she wouldn't ? and we were in debt for a trillion from bush's 8 years .

 

[JRK]

wow , fascist ? really ? or is this just your bigoted ass talking , you'd vote for the idiot palin ? your a fool .

there is no reason to call one a pig and Obama a pig
I like Palin, but I would not vote for her except if Obama was the only choice besides her. She at least would not have added trillions to our debt and we would be about the same place

What ? she spent 400,000 on wardrobe for her and her family with republican campaign funds , can you really prove she wouldn't ? and we were in debt for a trillion from bush's 8 years .

We Actually was a little over 2 trillion with W over 8 years
that would be with 2 wars, 1 Recession an event called 9-11 as well a 6 major hurricanes, one being called Katrina
Oh-yea about 300 billion was in stimulus, tax payer rebates

Lets see that would be where Obama did one for 1.2 trillion and the poor ol tax payer did not get any, well a little