FACT CHECK: Senate did favor Libya no-fly zone

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FACT CHECK: Senate did favor Libya no-fly zone


Apr 1, 5:13 PM (ET)

By DONNA CASSATA



WASHINGTON (AP) - Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing. They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

My Way News - FACT CHECK: Senate did favor Libya no-fly zone

by unanamous consent?


LMAO just LMAO.

But the Dems did it first! Waah!
 
FACT CHECK: Senate did favor Libya no-fly zone


Apr 1, 5:13 PM (ET)

By DONNA CASSATA



WASHINGTON (AP) - Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing. They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

My Way News - FACT CHECK: Senate did favor Libya no-fly zone

by unanamous consent?


LMAO just LMAO.

But the Dems did it first! Waah!

Sure they did.

What discussion proceeds action, doesn't count, until counted.

From your link:

...No one in Washington is interpreting that resolution as a full-blown authorization for military action, especially as the no-fly zone expanded to airstrikes on Gadhafi's tanks and munitions sites. But the measure undercuts the congressional criticism that Obama was totally off on his own. Defense Secretary Robert Gates pointedly reminded lawmakers of that during his marathon testimony on Thursday...

...Not so, said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine.

She argued that the resolution was limited, praising the courage of the Libyan people, calling on Gadhafi to stop the attacks and welcoming a vote in the U.N. Security Council. Reciting the phrase on the no-fly zone, she said it was "the only part that's even tangentially on this issue" and was "pretty weak language in terms of authorizing the United States."

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The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
 
The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.

United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.

United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And a member of the Senate is not the Senate.
 
The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.

United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe he was referring to the fact that there are only 100 Senators and well over 400 Congressmen in the house.

Anyone, and I do mean anyone, who believes that all 100 Senators were briefed in Secret and signed off on this. Is a complete and total fucking idiot. This is the Dem Party laying down cover for Obama.
 
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yup, talk as we see and have seen is cheap, the house and senate pass bills, take votes all the time, sense of the senate etc. that jazz has zero bearing unless they put it to vote for implementation and even then their 'partners' down the hall can always blow it up as can the exec. .
 
Neocons are just pathetic....their leadership gets NAILED in an act of hypocrisy, and rather than just deal with it, you get some insanity that the GOP in the Senate are irrelevent.

Sad...but when you realize these neocon numbskulls vote, it gets scary! Like I said earlier this year, you get what you paid for teabaggers/neocons/birthers/oathers.
 
i heard the new lunatic olberman guy say it last night, i looked it up this morning, it's true, the senate is part of congress.
 
"the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning ...blah blah blah..."

The Senate strongly farts when the wind is frome the south. No Laws were passed...pardon the pun(s)...
 
The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.

United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And?

There are 435 members of the House of Representatives and 100 Senators. Unless math has radically changed 100 is not half or 535.
 
Presidents have only acted without prior express military authorization from Congress on 125 occasions before Obama.

of course 2 wrongs don't make a right... and neither does 125.
 
The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.

United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

?? This still makes him right. There are more members of the House of Representatives than there are in the Senate. By numbers the Senate is less than half of the Congress. By organization, they're exactly "half." But for something to be "legal" it has to be passed by both houses. It's funny how some will condemn Bush for invading Iraq when the measure passed in both houses of Congress. Yet, somehow say it's "ok" for Obama to only have approval from the Senate. This is neither here nor there from where I stand on the issure, but I'm simply pointing out the blinding double-standard.
 
The entire Congress is just a politically motivated machine anyway. One party in Congress constantly tries to screw up the other side. For example: The Dems in Congress voted for the Iraq war and then almost immediately started bashing the president for the action. The Rep. helping pass the health-care legislation and then bashing Obama for it ,etc...
 
FACT CHECK: Senate did favor Libya no-fly zone


Apr 1, 5:13 PM (ET)

By DONNA CASSATA



WASHINGTON (AP) - Some lawmakers are grousing loudly that President Barack Obama sent the nation's military to Libya without Congress' blessing. They're ignoring a key fact: The Senate a month ago voted to support imposing a no-fly zone to protect civilians from attacks by Col. Moammar Gadhafi's forces.

With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning "the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya" and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, "including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory."

There was no recorded vote. It was simply approved by unanimous consent.

My Way News - FACT CHECK: Senate did favor Libya no-fly zone

by unanamous consent?


LMAO just LMAO.

But the Dems did it first! Waah!

How could a non-recorded, non-binding resolution be construed as a commitment to action?
 
it was support for the action....

President Bush did not fully inform congress on his actions either, he informed the members of the senate select intelligence committee and not the full Senate and the members of the congressional select intelligence committee.....but NOT the full congress on WMD's etc....

I am not saying either is right, even with the so called War Powers Act....I would rather see that the entire congress vote on anything like this, HOWEVER precedence on what a president can do and who he can inform and who he can NOT inform has all been set, prior to Obama doing this....
 
it was support for the action....

President Bush did not fully inform congress on his actions either, he informed the members of the senate select intelligence committee and not the full Senate and the members of the congressional select intelligence committee.....but NOT the full congress on WMD's etc....

I am not saying either is right, even with the so called War Powers Act....I would rather see that the entire congress vote on anything like this, HOWEVER precedence on what a president can do and who he can inform and who he can NOT inform has all been set, prior to Obama doing this....

The resolution cited many factors to justify the use of military force against Iraq:[2][3]

Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire, including interference with weapons inspectors.
Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region."
Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people".
Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the alleged 1993 assassination attempt of former President George H. W. Bush, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.
Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations.
The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, and those who aided or harbored them.
The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.
The resolution "supported" and "encouraged" diplomatic efforts by President George W. Bush to "strictly enforce through the U.N. Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq" and "obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq."

The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq."

[edit] PassageAn authorization by Congress was sought by President George W. Bush soon after his September 12, 2002, statement before the U.N. General Assembly asking for quick action by the Security Council in enforcing the resolutions against Iraq.[4][5]

Of the legislation introduced by Congress in response to President Bush's requests,[6] S.J.Res. 45 sponsored by Sen. Daschle & Sen. Lott was based on the original White House proposal authorizing the use of force in Iraq, H.J.Res. 114 sponsored by Rep. Hastert & Rep. Gephardt and the substantially similar S.J.Res. 46 sponsored by Sen. Lieberman were modified proposals. H.J.Res. 110 sponsored by Rep. Hastings was a separate proposal never considered on the floor. Eventually, the Hastert-Gephardt proposal became the legislation Congress focused on.

Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representatives on Thursday afternoon at 3:05 p.m. EDT on October 10, 2002, by a vote of 296-133,[8] and passed the Senate after midnight early Friday morning, at 12:50 a.m. EDT on October 11, 2002, by a vote of 77-23.[9] It was signed into law as Pub.L. 107-243 by President Bush on October 16, 2002.

Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not a big fan of using Wikipedia, but this is the easiest to do.
 
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The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.

United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And?

There are 435 members of the House of Representatives and 100 Senators. Unless math has radically changed 100 is not half or 535.

Please cut down on the partisan apologist rhetoritic it is sliming up the thread.
As far as passing anything the senate is equal to the house.
But spin away.
 
The Senate is not Congress, it is not even half of Congress. Just because they give voice support to a vote in the UN does not mean that the president can violate the law in the US.
The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States, consisting of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C.

United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

?? This still makes him right. There are more members of the House of Representatives than there are in the Senate. By numbers the Senate is less than half of the Congress. By organization, they're exactly "half." But for something to be "legal" it has to be passed by both houses. It's funny how some will condemn Bush for invading Iraq when the measure passed in both houses of Congress. Yet, somehow say it's "ok" for Obama to only have approval from the Senate. This is neither here nor there from where I stand on the issure, but I'm simply pointing out the blinding double-standard.

sorry you missed the point of the thread.
 

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