FACT CHECK: Romney claim about size of Navy is WRONG.

[Inthemiddle]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

 

[JWBooth]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Battleships, we need battleships and coal tenders. Mebbe some destroyer escorts.

 

[Inthemiddle]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Battleships, we need battleships and coal tenders. Mebbe some destroyer escorts.

Way to completely dodge the point.

 

[Inthemiddle]

I guess the wing nuts can't handle having cold, hard facts slam them squarely in the face.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The truth took another beating from both men last night. Is this really, or should it be, shocking to someone witha handle like inthemiddle?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Not to quibble with your unbiased fact checking here, but how does this prove Romney wrong? His exact statement is that the Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917, we had 342 ships then.

 

[Borillar]

I like Obama's response that we have fewer buggies and bayonets too, and that we have these things that carry aircraft - aircraft carriers. We aren't playing "Battleship".

 

[peach174]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Your wrong he said since 1917 not 1916.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVSfw5TPkos]Obama Rips Romney's Navy Expansion Plans: 'We Also Have Fewer Horses and Bayonets' - YouTube[/ame]
This is true, in 1917 we had 342 ships
Today we have 285 ships. Not 287. They are going down to 200 if the cut backs happen.
The Navy says they need 313 ships.

 

[Inthemiddle]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Not to quibble with your unbiased fact checking here, but how does this prove Romney wrong? His exact statement is that the Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917, we had 342 ships then.

I think you got it. Let's see if anyone else does.

 

[tyroneweaver]

we don't need no stinkin navy O is going to lower the oceans and O never lies.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Not to quibble with your unbiased fact checking here, but how does this prove Romney wrong? His exact statement is that the Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917, we had 342 ships then.

I think you got it. Let's see if anyone else does.

I see you pretending you were playing a game rather than admit you were wrong.

 

[Steelplate]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

We aren't going to let fact checkers run our campaign!

apologies if already used in this thread.

 

[Steelplate]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Not to quibble with your unbiased fact checking here, but how does this prove Romney wrong? His exact statement is that the Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917, we had 342 ships then.

I think you got it. Let's see if anyone else does.

Which is also a lie....because in 2007, we had only 278 and in 2008 we had 282.

US Ship Force Levels

 

[Darkwind]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Your wrong he said since 1917 not 1916.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVSfw5TPkos"]Obama Rips Romney's Navy Expansion Plans: 'We Also Have Fewer Horses and Bayonets' - YouTube[/ame]
This is true, in 1917 we had 342 ships
Today we have 285 ships. Not 287. They are going down to 200 if the cut backs happen.
The Navy says they need 313 ships.

^^^^^

 

[Steelplate]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Your wrong he said since 1917 not 1916.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVSfw5TPkos]Obama Rips Romney's Navy Expansion Plans: 'We Also Have Fewer Horses and Bayonets' - YouTube[/ame]
This is true, in 1917 we had 342 ships
Today we have 285 ships. Not 287. They are going down to 200 if the cut backs happen.
The Navy says they need 313 ships.

and as I said in my previous post...in 2007, we had 279 and in '08 we had 282....there are 20 ships that were commissioned two years ago...which is probably why we're up from 282.... and there's an allotment for 10 more in the 2013 budget.....your boy lies.

As far as the budget cutbacks? both sides agreed to the rules of play on that shit. Guess they better work something out.

 

[Darkwind]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

Your wrong he said since 1917 not 1916.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVSfw5TPkos"]Obama Rips Romney's Navy Expansion Plans: 'We Also Have Fewer Horses and Bayonets' - YouTube[/ame]
This is true, in 1917 we had 342 ships
Today we have 285 ships. Not 287. They are going down to 200 if the cut backs happen.
The Navy says they need 313 ships.

and as I said in my previous post...in 2007, we had 279 and in '08 we had 282....there are 20 ships that were commissioned two years ago...which is probably why we're up from 282.... and there's an allotment for 10 more in the 2013 budget.....your boy lies.

As far as the budget cutbacks? both sides agreed to the rules of play on that shit. Guess they better work something out.

Now we know you are a liar.

There is no 2013 budget.

The question is this: Did we have fewer ships in 1917 than we do today?

the answer is: yes.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I think you got it. Let's see if anyone else does.

So you lied and thought it was clever, because you are a leftist, ergo without honor or integrity.

I think we all get it.

 

[Trajan]

US Ship Force Levels

In 1916 the Navy had 245 ships. As of today we have 287 ships.

That is that.

I posted from that exact site in Sarah Gs thread last night.


he said-


"Our Navy is smaller than it's been since 1917"......



here ya go-

U.S.Navy Active Ship Force Levels, 1917-1923

Date 4/6/17 11/11/18 7/1/19 7/1/20 7/1/21 7/1/22 7/1/23
Battleship 37 39 36 26 22 19 18
Monitors, Coastal 7 7 5 1 2@ - -
Carriers, Fleet - - - - - - -
Carriers, Escort - - - - - - -
Cruisers 33 31 28 27 10 12 13
Destroyers 66 110 161 189 68 (208rc ) 103 103
Frigates 17 17 - - - - -
Submarines 44 80 91 58 69 (11rc) 82 (7rc) 69 (5rc)
Mine Warfare - 53 62 48 50 (8rc) 36 38
Patrol 42 350 65 45 59 (1rc) 43 41
Auxiliary 96 87 304 173 104 83 82
Surface Warships 160 204 230 243 102 134 134
Total Active 342 774 752 567 384 (228rc) 379 (7rc) 365 (5r


not only did you burn yourself but you let PolitiHack do it to you. Pants on Fire? They are garbage, period.


I posted a thread today on being wary of Politihack sites, right left or center...do your own reading and do you own research .

 

[Steelplate]

Your wrong he said since 1917 not 1916.
Obama Rips Romney's Navy Expansion Plans: 'We Also Have Fewer Horses and Bayonets' - YouTube
This is true, in 1917 we had 342 ships
Today we have 285 ships. Not 287. They are going down to 200 if the cut backs happen.
The Navy says they need 313 ships.

and as I said in my previous post...in 2007, we had 279 and in '08 we had 282....there are 20 ships that were commissioned two years ago...which is probably why we're up from 282.... and there's an allotment for 10 more in the 2013 budget.....your boy lies.

As far as the budget cutbacks? both sides agreed to the rules of play on that shit. Guess they better work something out.

Now we know you are a liar.

There is no 2013 budget.

The question is this: Did we have fewer ships in 1917 than we do today?

the answer is: yes.

That was not the claim. The claim was " The U.S. military is at risk of losing its "military superiority" because "our Navy is smaller than it's been since 1917" Word for word....

as far as me being a liar? Fuck you.

10 Ships for U.S. Navy in New Budget | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[tjvh]

Who cares how many ships we have when 22% of them are broken as of July? LINK: More Than a Fifth of Navy Ships Aren't Ready to Fight | Danger Room | Wired.com