FACT CHECK: Obama pushes plans that flopped before

[Wry Catcher]

While using the usual anti Obama rhetoric Mitch Daniels offered noting more or less than did the President.

Everyone in the room last night knows what must be done. To their discredit and ultimate rejection by the American people team Boehner/McConnell will continue to obstruct our nations recovery.

Of course the ignorant, bigoted, or single issue conservative hoi polloi will vote for 'none of the above' come November, simply because Obama has been branded a (Marxist, Fascist, Muslim, Foreign National, Socialist, anti American, Left Wing, Extremist) by such 'authorities' as Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. and The Weasel (Eric Cantor) or because of the color of his skin.

All the while the former GOP continues to disintegrate. There is no consensus as to who the nominee of the R Party will be, and the differences between those leading are stark. Romney isn't the guy anyone wants to have a beer with, though some would enjoy a glass of Dom Perignon as they clipped coupons together; Given his record and scurrilous behavior few will support Gingrich, a man who has more enemies than friends and whose friends seem to be neocons already rejected by Americans sick of foreign entanglements; Ron Paul is nuts as are most ideologues, does anyone expect anything more than gridlock under a Paul Administration? And then there's Rick Santorum, a conundrum wrapped in a preachers collar (an Elmer Gantry redux).

 

[Wry Catcher]

Because the "Emperor" has no clothes?

Romney has clothes. They're not all that expensive, though. He only spends about $1500 on each business suit, and $500 on each casual outfit. He's frugal.

Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama dress rather well, Inthemiddle...the difference between the two men is that Romney buys his clothes with money he made while running companies in the private sector and Obama buys his with money that he receives from tax payers for being a rather ineffective politician. When someone is free and easy with THEIR money I don't really have a problem with it...when they are free and easy with MY money it tends to annoy me.

Obama made his money from book sales, Romney from seeling the assets of companies and putting American workers in bread lines.

 

[Full-Auto]

Yelling at inanimate objects is a sign of derangement.

Good point, better to keep it pent up and go postal.

If you're getting so bent out of shape in the first place that it's a choice between yelling at inanimate objects, and "keeping it pent up and going postal" then there's already something wrong in the first place. I think some anger management and daily running is in order. A stiff drink and some good sex wouldn't hurt either.

Your knowledge or I should say lack of as far as basic psychology goes, is showing.

Venting is very healthy

 

[Claudette]

Oh Brother Wry.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama dress rather well

I agree. But I don't think that both of them are out-of-touch enough to suggest that what they wear is cheap.

the difference between the two men is that Romney buys his clothes with money he made while running companies in the private sector

You mean, destroying companies in the private sector, right?

and Obama buys his with money that he receives from tax payers for being a rather ineffective politician.

So, you're ignoring his work in private charities, education, and law?

When someone is free and easy with THEIR money I don't really have a problem with it...when they are free and easy with MY money it tends to annoy me.

How is Obama's money not HIS money? He earned it. He performed services, he was compensated for it. The fact that he's been an elected official for part of his adult life doesn't magically make his money not his anymore.

 

[Nova78]

Same old same old shit,all thoses fuckers in wash are laughing at you ,your nothing more than a worker bee making all those fuck sticks millionares......

 

[Oldstyle]

Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama dress rather well

I agree. But I don't think that both of them are out-of-touch enough to suggest that what they wear is cheap.

the difference between the two men is that Romney buys his clothes with money he made while running companies in the private sector

You mean, destroying companies in the private sector, right?

and Obama buys his with money that he receives from tax payers for being a rather ineffective politician.

So, you're ignoring his work in private charities, education, and law?

When someone is free and easy with THEIR money I don't really have a problem with it...when they are free and easy with MY money it tends to annoy me.

How is Obama's money not HIS money? He earned it. He performed services, he was compensated for it. The fact that he's been an elected official for part of his adult life doesn't magically make his money not his anymore.

Let's be honest here, Inthemiddle...Barack Obama HAS held high paying jobs in education and the law...but he's never worked hard at any of them. He was a figure head...hired because he was the first black President of the Harvard Law Review. He's never excelled at the practice or teaching of law. You say he "earned it"? I'm sorry but I disagree. Romney spent twenty five years "earning it"...Obama was "given it" on a silver platter. He got a six figure book deal and his jobs at a prestigious Chicago law firm and the University of Chicago because of that Presidency of the Law Review not because of anything that he himself ever did. I challenge you to find something exceptional that Barack Obama ever did as a lawyer or a professor. As far as I can tell he simply showed up for a paycheck...pretty much what he's done while he's been in public office by the way.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Good point, better to keep it pent up and go postal.

If you're getting so bent out of shape in the first place that it's a choice between yelling at inanimate objects, and "keeping it pent up and going postal" then there's already something wrong in the first place. I think some anger management and daily running is in order. A stiff drink and some good sex wouldn't hurt either.

Your knowledge or I should say lack of as far as basic psychology goes, is showing.

Venting is very healthy

Berating inanimate objects isn't "venting" anymore than beating your wife is venting, because you couldn't stand that the bitch just won't listen.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Let's be honest here, Inthemiddle...Barack Obama HAS held high paying jobs in education and the law...but he's never worked hard at any of them. He was a figure head...hired because he was the first black President of the Harvard Law Review.

No, no, no. When people succeed and earn wealth it's because they worked hard and earned it. That's how the free market works.

He's never excelled at the practice or teaching of law.

And you have evidence of this, I'm sure.

You say he "earned it"? I'm sorry but I disagree.

Why don't you believe in the free market? Why do you hate America? Why do you want us to become Marxists?

Romney spent twenty five years "earning it"...Obama was "given it" on a silver platter.

That's impossible. That kind of thing never happens in the real world. That's America is built on the free market, and it's simply impossible for anyone to succeed without working hard and earning it.

He got a six figure book deal and his jobs at a prestigious Chicago law firm and the University of Chicago because of that Presidency of the Law Review not because of anything that he himself ever did.

In other words, he worked hard and became President of the Law Review, and that opened up new opportunities to him. But you're jealous that you didn't open those opportunities for yourself.

I challenge you to find something exceptional that Barack Obama ever did as a lawyer or a professor. As far as I can tell he simply showed up for a paycheck.

It's not for you or I to decide whether what he did was worth it. He was hired in a free market, and people can do whatever they want to do with their money. If it's a good investment, they'll reap the reward, if not they'll suffer the loss.

pretty much what he's done while he's been in public office by the way.

It's for the voters to decide. And that still doesn't change the fact that Obama has enjoyed success because he worked for it and earned it.

 

[Oddball]

I kept shouting at the tv (and then the radio when I went to pick up my eldest from work)

Yelling at inanimate objects is a sign of derangement.

Never heard of Gestalt, have you?

 

[whitehall]

It's the same old hope/change B.S. only people ain't buyin it today.

 

[Truthmatters]

I wonder if the two of you will admit that.....no matter what he said last night.......you would have come here and rejected it.

In other words you don't have any way to refute what is said. All you can do is WHINE!

You need a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULENCE!

Let me explain this to you.

There is a creeping reality in the right.

Its that they will pick a loser in this years election.

Every candidate you are currently putting up will lose the election.

The republican party can not cheat enough to win this elections without getting caught red handed.

The power structure of the Republican party is realizing it will lose.


With this fact sunken into their brains they realize they have nothing to gain by being ANTI Obama as a knee jerk game plan.

That means they can now go ahead and HELP the American people with good ideas like the president has proposed and quit placing party over country for the next year.

Hell it may even help a couple of Rs keep their seats.

 

[Jarhead]

Inthemiddle....

Are you aware of the following....

Obama, as a graduate of the top law school in the country, was hired by a law firm. Over his nearly 4 years with them, this man with "great potential" had yet to receive any type of promotion in status at the law fim...he never acheived "junior partner" as most should...to he contrary, the best he got was "of counsel" which, to anyone who is familiar with the law industry, is not deemed as a promotion and is usually offered to the "least busy" attorney in the firm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#University_of_Chicago_Law_School_and_civil_rights_attorney

 

[Oddball]

Inthemiddle....

Are you aware of the following....

Obama, as a graduate of the top law school in the country, was hired by a law firm. Over his nearly 4 years with them, this man with "great potential" had yet to receive any type of promotion in status at the law fim...he never acheived "junior partner" as most should...to he contrary, the best he got was "of counsel" which, to anyone who is familiar with the law industry, is not deemed as a promotion and is usually offered to the "least busy" attorney in the firm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#University_of_Chicago_Law_School_and_civil_rights_attorney

RACIST!

 

[Truthmatters]

Time for republicans to realize they will gain nothing from the American people by continuing to put Party over Country.

 

[Jarhead]

Inthemiddle....

Are you aware of the following....

Obama, as a graduate of the top law school in the country, was hired by a law firm. Over his nearly 4 years with them, this man with "great potential" had yet to receive any type of promotion in status at the law fim...he never acheived "junior partner" as most should...to he contrary, the best he got was "of counsel" which, to anyone who is familiar with the law industry, is not deemed as a promotion and is usually offered to the "least busy" attorney in the firm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#University_of_Chicago_Law_School_and_civil_rights_attorney

RACIST!

My guess?

It was fear of that accusation as to why they made him "Of Counsel"

Making one "Of Counsel" is instead of offering the attorney partnership.

What I find interesting is how he was heralded for his "Law Degree" but no one in the media discussed his failure as an attorney.

And yes....not acheiving "junior partner" after 4 years with a law firm means "failure"

 

[daveman]

It's the same old hope/change B.S. only people ain't buyin it today.

Some people are.

 

[Truthmatters]

hahahahahahg


you people are so lost

 

[Liberty]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdwr-xNJIU]State of the Union 2012 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Truthmatters]

what a load of crap