Fabricated Intelligence...Fact or Fiction?

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  1. Bullypulpit
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    In a recently declassified document from Doug Feith's Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, Mr. Feith attempted to forge a link between Osama bin Laden and Iraq. This involved allegations that bin Laden's al-Hijra Company used a company in the Netherlands as a go-between for arms sales to Iraq. The Dutch company allegedly involved was Vlemmo NV.

    Unfortunately, it would seem that this company has never existed. According to the Dutch Foreign Minister, Maxime Verhagen, ""The company has never been registered with the Chamber of Commerce in the Netherlands and is also not known to the tax service. That the company may have served as a front for illegal arms trade with Iraq is equally unknown to me." And the Dutch have been collecting taxes in the Netherlands for several centuries, so it would seem unlikely that such a company would escape their attention.

    This report is but a thread in the fabric of lies woven by the Bush administration to justify the invasion and occupation of Iraq. That fabric is now coming apart at the seams, and the lies are bing revealed, bit by bit. The pity is that it didn't happen sooner. How many lives could have been spared in a needless war on a country that posed no threat to the US?
     
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    You won't get an answer, BP. Their heads are purblindly buried in the Red, White, and Blue sand.

    Doncha know that Eye-Wrack is solely responsible for 9/11, and so is every country that we invade, bomb, blockade, or carry out biological or "nooklah" warfare against in the future!

    Who was it that said patriotism is nothing but narcissitic people who think their country is sacred simply because they were born there. Or words to that effect?
     
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    While looking for a bit more of what Bully was addressing, I found this:

    http://www.nisnews.nl/public/230507_2.htm

    I know it would be totally off of anyone's concept map that al qaeda was capable of running a shell game with money. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yup, those secret right wing nut jobs in the Intelligence services of the US managed to sneak that one by all the loyal employees, you know the ones that like to leak stuff that might hurt the President or claim he "outed" a non secret agent.

    And of course the mind control ray that Bush has made the entire world agree.
     
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    Of course they are. They just didn't do it with Iraq because Saddam HATED the fundies and they hated him right back.
     
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    I don't think "hate" is the right word WHERE you have applied it. True enough, Saddam and fundies were ideological opposites; therefore, giving Saddam reason to fear them.

    At the same time, the old axiom "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" can also apply. If one could use the other to strike at us or Israel, I can easily see that happening. No doubt is was probably discussed more than once; which, is where this conversation always ends up.

    To what extent was Saddam and OBL/AQ involved with one another? IMO, minimal at best. I don't think anything ever got past talk.
     
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    I agree, BUT the threat was that eventually that TALK could or would become more than JUST TALK. Saddam was trying hard to find terrorist networks to do his dirty work.
     
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    Israel wasn't Bin Laden's objective... getting our AFB out of Saudi Arabia (which he succeeded at...) was.

    As for Israel... taking out Saddam didn't do much in that regard.... it just empowered Iran.... which actually has, or will have, the capability of taking out Israel.
     
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    WE were Saddam's enemy. HE had a hard on for striking at the US. He wanted terrorist groups not to attack Israel, he already had them for that, but to attack the US.
     
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    You're just making up stuff out of whole cloth now...

    It's beautiful out and I'm off and running. Thanks for the convo.

    Laterz.
     

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