executive tyranny

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    Bush's executive tyranny - Los Angeles Times


    Just how close to the brink of executive tyranny did the United States come in the panic that swept George W. Bush's administration after 9/11? The answer, it now seems clear, is that we came far closer than even staunch critics of the White House believed.

    On Monday, the Obama administration released nine legal opinions produced for the Bush White House by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel shortly after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. That heretofore obscure office essentially serves as the president's arbiter of what's legal and what isn't. Among other things, the memorandums issued by the office in 2001 asserted that Bush had the power to order the military to capture suspected terrorists on U.S. soil and to treat them as enemy combatants without any rights to due process.

    In the course of such operations, according to the Office of Legal Counsel, the military was free to ignore 4th Amendment prohibitions on illegal search and seizure and to engage in warrantless wiretapping. 1st Amendment protections of free speech also could be suspended at the chief executive's directive, according to these opinions, and the president has the power to abrogate any international treaty at will.
     
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    wow! that' never happened before bush.

    idiot
     
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    You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait'll Obama gets through. Oh wait that would imply that Obama would have to be at least mildly competent...
     
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    Anything that Bush gets away with, his successors get to do, too.

    That's in the totalitarians grandfathering clause of the Constitution, I think.

    It's been working out real well for us so far, don't you think?
     
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    how many ethnic groups did he intern? how many people did he throw into st elizabeth's for the duration? for how long did he suspend the right of habeus corpus?

    i don't mind bush being taken to ask for his excesses; i do mind the convenient amnesia regarding other chief executives.
     
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    *yawn* Dude, Bush isn't President. We had to listen to this drivel for 8 years.

    Move on, huh?

    F-ing wingnut.:cuckoo:
     
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    Actually since we were at WAR with Terrorism the Military had and has every legal right to operate AGAINST Terrorists with in the US. And they would not have the protection of the Constitution until after the fact when a Court MIGHT hear if the PARTICULAR case was with in the scope of the War or civilian.

    That is how it works. And it is with in the Power of the President to so order such operations.

    Now go find us a single case where the military actually did anything of the sort with in the United States. I won't hold my breath waiting.
     
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    Well, Bush should not be president after this!!
     
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    correction, MOONBATS
     
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    yeah buddy
    lol
     

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