Execellent article on polling

[clevergirl]

Finally, what do the Independent voter numbers show? Even in these corrupt polls where Dems are being egregiously oversampled, Romney has a DOUBLE DIGIT lead amongst Independents.

Nuff’ said.

What Obama and his allies are doing now: “The Democrats want to convince [these anti-Obama voters] falsely that Romney will lose to discourage them from voting. So they lobby the pollsters to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models. They are lobbying them now to affect early voting. IVR [Interactive Voice Response] polls are heavily weighted. You can weight to whatever result you want. Some polls have included sizable segments of voters who say they are ‘not enthusiastic’ to vote or non-voters to dilute Republicans. Major pollsters have samples with Republican affiliation in the 20 to 30 percent range, at such low levels not seen since the 1960s in states like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina and which then place Obama ahead. The intended effect is to suppress Republican turnout through media polling bias. We’ll see a lot more of this.

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[Black_Label]

Malkin's radical right wing propaganda site is nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Malkin's radical right wing propaganda site is nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

So are you but we didnt want to get into that kind of talk.....post more and add some detail, I love wiping the floor with you

 

[Black_Label]

Malkin's radical right wing propaganda site is nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

So are you but we didnt want to get into that kind of talk.....post more and add some detail, I love wiping the floor with you

The only thing you wipe is the tears from your eyes as you run home to mommy after getting your ass kicked up and down the forum on a daily basis

 

[oreo]

Finally, what do the Independent voter numbers show? Even in these corrupt polls where Dems are being egregiously oversampled, Romney has a DOUBLE DIGIT lead amongst Independents.

Nuff’ said.

What Obama and his allies are doing now: “The Democrats want to convince [these anti-Obama voters] falsely that Romney will lose to discourage them from voting. So they lobby the pollsters to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models. They are lobbying them now to affect early voting. IVR [Interactive Voice Response] polls are heavily weighted. You can weight to whatever result you want. Some polls have included sizable segments of voters who say they are ‘not enthusiastic’ to vote or non-voters to dilute Republicans. Major pollsters have samples with Republican affiliation in the 20 to 30 percent range, at such low levels not seen since the 1960s in states like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina and which then place Obama ahead. The intended effect is to suppress Republican turnout through media polling bias. We’ll see a lot more of this.

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Yeah here is a good example of what CNN did to make a national poll that showed Obama ahead of Romney by 6 points.

CNN is grabbing political headlines tonight with the release of its latest poll. It shows Obama surging to a 6-point lead over Romney, 52-46, among likely. Before the start of the Democrat convention, the candidates had been tied in the poll. Since it purportedly confirms a narrative the media is trying to build, i.e. that Obama is starting to pull away with the race, it is getting wide coverage. However, there are a couple of strange things within the poll that cast doubt on its veracity. And, at least one concern warrants a response from CNN.

First, this being a media poll, it has an obvious skew towards Democrats. The partisan breakdown is (D/R/I) 50/45/5. It perhaps isn’t surprising that Obama is leading a D+5 poll by 6 points. Throughout the campaign season, Obama’s margin usually is very close to the partisan skew in the sample. It is surprising, though, that Independents make up only 5% of the sample. Tellingly, Romney leads this group by 14 points.

CNN manipulated their polling | Education News

Romney now leads with independents by 15 points.
James Carville Poll Panics Dems: Romney Leads By 15 Points Among Independents « Pat Dollard

The state polls yesterday Ohio--Florida and one other state again over-polled democrats and completely left out independents in their survey. Now who really believes that Obama is ahead by 10 points in Ohio--and several points in Florida?--- They are using samples from 2008 and going clear back to 2004 using the "exit polling data"--that was sooo--wrong--it's almost hilarious to watch.
Here's how they manipulated their polls.
http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/09/ne...ut-of-voters-frustrated-with-the-obamanomics/

No President is going to win reelection with real unemployment in this country standing around 12% if you count those that have run out of unemployment benefits.

The August 2012 job report was HORRIBLE. Employment in this country hits a 30 year LOW.
August jobs report: hiring down, unemployment falls - Sep. 7, 2012

The University of Colorado has already called this race for Mitt Romney--based on historic data--and they have been right since 1980.
University of Colorado forecasters predict a Mitt Romney presidency | Deseret News

"Barack Obama is the greatest HOAX ever perpetrated on the American population"--Clint Eastwood

 

[NYcarbineer]

Malkin's radical right wing propaganda site is nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

So are you but we didnt want to get into that kind of talk.....post more and add some detail, I love wiping the floor with you

I'll explain it to you.

This cockeyed steaming heap of a conspiracy theory that the Democrats are getting help from the pollsters includes one element of such profound stupidity that it's even surprising that rightwing nuts believe it,

that is, that Foxnews is in on it.

Entertain us with an explanation as to why that is happening - supposedly.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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The University of Colorado has already called this race for Mitt Romney--based on historic data--and they have been right since 1980.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but that Colorado study got nothing right.

That study was only recently concocted, working backwards, making the criteria fit the results in hindsight.

Sorry.

 

[BallsBrunswick]

Considering the entire world is out to get the conservatives and there's a vast conspiracy against them in every form of life, I'm kind of disappointed I didn't get the memo to get in on it.

 

[clevergirl]

Finally, what do the Independent voter numbers show? Even in these corrupt polls where Dems are being egregiously oversampled, Romney has a DOUBLE DIGIT lead amongst Independents.

Nuff’ said.

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Yeah here is a good example of what CNN did to make a national poll that showed Obama ahead of Romney by 6 points.

CNN is grabbing political headlines tonight with the release of its latest poll. It shows Obama surging to a 6-point lead over Romney, 52-46, among likely. Before the start of the Democrat convention, the candidates had been tied in the poll. Since it purportedly confirms a narrative the media is trying to build, i.e. that Obama is starting to pull away with the race, it is getting wide coverage. However, there are a couple of strange things within the poll that cast doubt on its veracity. And, at least one concern warrants a response from CNN.

First, this being a media poll, it has an obvious skew towards Democrats. The partisan breakdown is (D/R/I) 50/45/5. It perhaps isn’t surprising that Obama is leading a D+5 poll by 6 points. Throughout the campaign season, Obama’s margin usually is very close to the partisan skew in the sample. It is surprising, though, that Independents make up only 5% of the sample. Tellingly, Romney leads this group by 14 points.

CNN manipulated their polling | Education News

Romney now leads with independents by 15 points.
James Carville Poll Panics Dems: Romney Leads By 15 Points Among Independents « Pat Dollard

The state polls yesterday Ohio--Florida and one other state again over-polled democrats and completely left out independents in their survey. Now who really believes that Obama is ahead by 10 points in Ohio--and several points in Florida?--- They are using samples from 2008 and going clear back to 2004 using the "exit polling data"--that was sooo--wrong--it's almost hilarious to watch.
Here's how they manipulated their polls.
Never trust a word they say: NY Times, Quinnipiac skew polling in attempt to depress turnout of voters frustrated with the failures of Obamanomics « Bob Owens

No President is going to win reelection with real unemployment in this country standing around 12% if you count those that have run out of unemployment benefits.

The August 2012 job report was HORRIBLE. Employment in this country hits a 30 year LOW.
August jobs report: hiring down, unemployment falls - Sep. 7, 2012

The University of Colorado has already called this race for Mitt Romney--based on historic data--and they have been right since 1980.
University of Colorado forecasters predict a Mitt Romney presidency | Deseret News



"Barack Obama is the greatest HOAX ever perpetrated on the American population"--Clint Eastwood

The thing to remember about the skewed polling? WISCONSIN BABY...WISCONSIN! The media tried to hand it to the democrat there as well...

 

[Article 15]

They've replaced guns and Bibles with skewed polls and the University of Colorado.

 

[Article 15]

The thing to remember about the skewed polling? WISCONSIN BABY...WISCONSIN! The media tried to hand it to the democrat there as well...

RCP had Walker up over Barrett the entire election.


Whoosh!

 

[Lakhota]

Nate Silver knows who's winning - and it ain't Romney.

 

[jillian]

oh nooooo.... it's all a conspiracy!!!

how dare people not like mittens!!

 

[jillian]

The thing to remember about the skewed polling? WISCONSIN BABY...WISCONSIN! The media tried to hand it to the democrat there as well...

RCP had Walker up over Barrett the entire election.


Whoosh!

don't confuse her with facts. you know that makes her head hurt.

 

[sfcalifornia]

Finally, what do the Independent voter numbers show? Even in these corrupt polls where Dems are being egregiously oversampled, Romney has a DOUBLE DIGIT lead amongst Independents.

Nuff’ said.

What Obama and his allies are doing now: “The Democrats want to convince [these anti-Obama voters] falsely that Romney will lose to discourage them from voting. So they lobby the pollsters to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models. They are lobbying them now to affect early voting. IVR [Interactive Voice Response] polls are heavily weighted. You can weight to whatever result you want. Some polls have included sizable segments of voters who say they are ‘not enthusiastic’ to vote or non-voters to dilute Republicans. Major pollsters have samples with Republican affiliation in the 20 to 30 percent range, at such low levels not seen since the 1960s in states like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina and which then place Obama ahead. The intended effect is to suppress Republican turnout through media polling bias. We’ll see a lot more of this.

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Conservatives know all about dirty pool, don't they?

This sounds like something they would do....

This delusional idiot is just pissed about Dems being against voter ID laws....

 

[clevergirl]

The thing to remember about the skewed polling? WISCONSIN BABY...WISCONSIN! The media tried to hand it to the democrat there as well...

RCP had Walker up over Barrett the entire election.


Whoosh!

don't confuse her with facts. you know that makes her head hurt.

Though I know it makes for stupid debate, it's a pretty easy dig to go back to the Walker threads and post from them. The media boasting on exit polling showing a "tight race". A race "within the margin of error" being the bandied about brag of board liberals. The race was NOT CLOSE. But the media had no problem reporting it that way- and liberals on this board had no problem drinking that kool aid. Exit polling was weighted with ridiculous BS so that the media could call it "close". To an even more disingenuous (aka dishonest) degree they are doing the same thing with Obama to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models... Over sampling voters, not likely to vote, is a tactic that won't work in keeping independents or republicans home...but the desperate will resort to anything.

 

[L.K.Eder]

deliciously desperate

 

[Sarah G]

Rush Limbaugh puts the thought into their little pea brains, they pick up that ball and run with it.

 

[RoadVirus]

Malkin's radical right wing propaganda site is nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

Yeah, because we all know Obama and his cronies would never resort to lying, cheating and other dirty tactics!

 

[jillian]

Malkin's radical right wing propaganda site is nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

Yeah, because we all know Obama and his cronies would never resort to lying, cheating and other dirty tactics!

as opposed to mitt romney, karl rove, dick armey, or their cronies?

idiot...