Ex-Spy poisoned in London

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    I've had a look around, but can't find anyone else having picked up on this story, and i've put in the terror section, cos the UK terror squad is dealing with this issue.

    LONDON (AFP) - Former spy Alexander Litvinenko, probably poisoned by a highly toxic radioactive substance, accused Russian President Vladimir Putin over his murder from beyond the grave.

    As the affair threatened to escalate politically, health officials said a "large quantity" of radiation probably from polonium 210 had been found in Litvinenko's urine, while checks were made on people who had contact with him.

    Later in the day, the British government confirmed it had formally asked Moscow for any information it had on Litvinenko, a critic of the Kremlin who moved to Britain six years ago.​

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061124/wl_uk_afp/britainrussiaspy

    This guy Litvinenko is an ex-FSB (former KGB) agent who became highly disturbed at the goings on in Chechnya, and fled to the UK, got political asylum there, and was given British citizenship.
    He was a regular critic of Vladimir Putin and the FSB. For instance he accused the FSB of the Moscow apartment bombings which allowed Putin to initiate the second Chechen war.
    Although unproven, to most observers in the UK it seems pretty obvious that he was poisoned by FSB agents, as Polonium-210 is a highly radioactive alpha emitter, with a half life of 138 days - not bought off the shelf!

    The point is that the Duma (Russian parliament) recently passed a law that allows the FSB free reign to pursue any individual of group that they see fit on the grounds that they are 'terrorists' and includes anyone the deem a threat to the Russian state - they dont even have to consult the Duma or Putin for permission.

    So what do we get? The assasination of a British subject in Britain by a foreign power. Clearly this is an act of state sponsored terrorism - and the Russians know they can get away with it because all they are doing is following our own (the west's) examples of kidnap, extraordinary rendition and asassination of foreigners in foreign lands.
    All this is just another example of how dangerous it is to go around eroding the civil liberties the west (used to) take for granted. Now that our moral high ground has begun to slip, it has allowed others to sink to even lower depths.
     
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    Russians assasinate a Russian defector and it's the West's fault. Stupid.
     
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    Nope. They know they can get away with it, because we want Russia to sell their oil to us, not just China. We are unwilling to excercise the power we have, thus are ceasing to be a great power.
     
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    Oops. I posted this after you did, in the Europe forums. How many have they been accused of poisioning or attempting to poison now....3-4?
     
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    The guy was no longer Russian

    I agree with you that the last bit was wobbly logic, however there have been numerous leaders/countries around the world who recently have been able to shrug off western complaints or complaints from ngos like amnesty international about their methods by using the buzzwords 'terror' and 'we are only doing what america does'
     
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    Yep, that too... a sad state of affairs.
     
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    Sadder than we realize. Western Europe is dead men walking. Now the US has once again chosen to turn a war into a stalemate, unwilling to do what is necessary to win a war.

    Our institutions took a pass on the cartoon riots and say nary a word about the uprisings from Paris, Thailand, Russia, the Phillipines, or Africa.

    Now state sponsored assassinations are being carried out, by an 'ally' and we here crickets.
     
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    What actions do you recommend be taken ?
     
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    Seems the steps are already underway and for now, the choices made. What do you think?
     
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    I'd have to know what steps and choices you are talking about. If it all consists of talk and condemnation it'll disappear from the news in about 2 days.
     

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