EX-Seiu Busted

[WillowTree]

wouldn't it be more like sedition?

 

[Big Fitz]

wouldn't it be more like sedition?

Depends if it goes beyond words. If acts are committed, then it's treason.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So by collapsing the economy even further the unions think that's a good thing? Beautiful deductive reasoning there.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hell, Bush baby did it without even thinking about it.

 

[WillowTree]

Hell, Bush baby did it without even thinking about it.

So, you admit Bush didn't premeditate. That's good,, as opposed to these frickin idiots.

 

[Big Fitz]

So by collapsing the economy even further the unions think that's a good thing? Beautiful deductive reasoning there.

Deductive... reasoning...? They've heard these words... just not together.

 

[Care4all]

So by collapsing the economy even further the unions think that's a good thing? Beautiful deductive reasoning there.

this guy was FIRED from his union job....he's an EX union guy.

this IS NOT the unions, no matter the spin the right wing puts on it

 

[boedicca]

More details on this appalling terrorist plot; part of the transcript of former SEIU official Stephen Lerner's ideas on how to destabilize the economy and return $17T of wealth to the working and middle class.

First, two comments;

- That $17T won't exist after they destroy the financial markets as it is held in financial instruments, so the plan if not only morally repugnant, but financially inane.

- Why hasn't the Obama Department of Homeland Security declared SEIU a domestic terrorist organization? They had no problem smearing returning vets without evidence; and yet, here we have a real plot to wreak havoc upon the country.

A transcript of Lerner's full reported remarks is below, courtesy of The Blaze. We have heard the tape, but we have not independently verified that the voice is Lerner's. You can listen to the tape here.

Here are the key remarks:

Unions are almost dead. We cannot survive doing what we do but the simple fact of the matter is community organizations are almost dead also. And if you think about what we need to do it may give us some direction which is essentially what the folks that are in charge - the big banks and everything - what they want is stability.

There are actually extraordinary things we could do right now to start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement.

For example, 10% of homeowners are underwater right their home they are paying more for it then its worth 10% of those people are in strategic default, meaning they are refusing to pay but they are staying in their home that's totally spontaneous they figured out it takes a year to kick me out of my home because foreclosure is backed up

If you could double that number you would you could put banks at the edge of insolvency again.

Students have a trillion dollar debt

We have an entire economy that is built on debt and banks so the question would be what would happen if we organized homeowners in mass to do a mortgage strike if we get half a million people to agree it would literally cause a new finical crisis for the banks not for us we would be doing quite well we wouldn't be paying anything...

We have to think much more creatively. The key thing... What does the other side fear the most - they fear disruption. They fear uncertainty. Every article about Europe says in they rioted in Greece the markets went down

The folks that control this country care about one thing how the stock market goes what the bond market does how the bonuses goes. We have a very simple strategy:

* How do we bring down the stock market
* How do we bring down their bonuses
* How do we interfere with there ability to be rich...

So a bunch of us around the country think who would be a really good company to hate we decided that would be JP Morgan Chase and so we are going to roll out over the next couple of months what would hopefully be an exciting campaign about JP Morgan Chase that is really about challenge the power of Wall Street.

And so what we are looking at is the first week in May can we get enough people together starting now to really have an week of action in New York I don't want to give any details because I don't know if there are any police agents in the room.

The goal would be that we will roll out of New York the first week of May. We will connect three ideas

* that we are not broke there is plenty of money
* they have the money - we need to get it back
* and that they are using Bloomberg and other people in government as the vehicle to try and destroy us

And so we need to take on those folks at the same time. And that we will start here we are going to look at a week of civil disobedience - direct action all over the city. Then roll into the JP Morgan shareholder meeting which they moved out of New York because I guess they were afraid because of Columbus.

There is going to be a ten state mobilization to try and shut down that meeting and then looking at bank shareholder meetings around the country and try and create some moments like Madison except where we are on offense instead of defense

Where we have brave and heroic battles challenging the power of the giant corporations. We hope to inspire a much bigger movement about redistributing wealth and power in the country and that labor can’t do itself that community groups can’t do themselves but maybe we can work something new and different that can be brave enough and daring and nimble enough to do that kind of thing.

CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America

 

[mudwhistle]

Hell, Bush baby did it without even thinking about it.

So, you admit Bush didn't premeditate. That's good,, as opposed to these frickin idiots.

That's right Willow. Every once in a while one of the enlightened few steps in dog-shit and it's up to us to alert them to the smell.