Ex gays post signs

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    I feel sorry for these people. They have been so badly manipulated by the psychology profession.

    Either they are still gay or they never were. More likely they are bisexual or have simply gone back into the closet.

    Just because one chooses to hide who one is, doesn't mean one changes who one is.

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    Yes naturally. They are either still gay or never were. Those are the only two choices...not.
     
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    ACLUDem,

    Why do you immediately dismiss (and insult) these people? While I am a supporter of equal rights for people who are homosexual and a supporter of gay marriage, I am open-minded enough to know that not much is known about homosexuality.

    For quite awhile, people believed there was a gay "gene." Science has thoroughly debunked that idea. Some people believe there is a psychological reason for homosexuality, others disagree...some people feel there is a spectrum of sexuality and all people fall somewhere between "straight" and "homosexual" and that people can shift back and forth over time depending upon a number of factors.

    The fact is, these people feel that they were not meant to be homosexual and are happier with themselves and their lives, living as straight people. Yet you feel the need to immediately belittle this decision...and yet, by your name you imply that you are interested in freedom of choice...civil liberties..all that.

    Are you as skeptical and rude about people who were once "straight" and decided to become "gay?" Or do you celebrate that choice...their "coming out."

    I am sure you do celebrate it. Perhaps you should examine why someone "coming out" as gay is something good...yet "coming out" as straight is something to be pitied according to you.
     
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    By some people's standards, inmates are homosexuals-waiting-to-happen.

    It's called 'preference' - Homosexuality is nothing more than a person 'deciding' they want to have sex with others of their gender. A homosexual IS as a homosexual DOES
     
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    Thank you for that insight Sigmund.

    Most things can change. Except perhaps the narrow-minded disposition of those more devoted to dogma and ideology than to common sense.
     
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    -=d=-, you are right on. Homosexuality is not an unchangeable trait, like eye color or height, waiting to be discovered. It is based on your behavior, much like your status as a smoker or a motorcycle rider. One is free to change his/her smoking preferences just like one is free to change his/her sexual preference - though from what I've heard, both are extremely challenging.
     
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    Maybe, maybe not....
    Studies..and much more......
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus4.htm
     
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    Yup. Here's your ACLU democrat backer at his finest. His "tolerance" is extended to those who chose to be queer, but NOT to those who have found out change is possible.

    It leads me to believe, once again, that the devil's fingers are amongst the ACLU. Their "inclusive, tolerance" mantra is a lie.
     
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