Evolutionists borrowing theories from Creationism

[Sugarhitman]

Hey, folks, has it ever occurred to you that EVOs are either borrowing theories from Creos, or they are unwittingly confirming the Biblical Narrative.


1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing. The Bible states God created the universe out of nothing.


2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans....which is that the earth was struck by multiple comet impacts, and then it rained and rained and rained and walla!! The oceans!


3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.


4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.


5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.


Why dont they just admit it?

 

[InDoctriNation]

Yep, sounds like you've got them cornered!

 

[Dragon]

1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing.

No, evolution theory says nothing at all about the origin of the universe.

2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans

No, evolution theory says nothing at all about the origin of the oceans.

3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.

Well, humans have legs, you know, so for them to have migrated form somewhere to somewhere else is a pretty obvious notion. And Africa is not the Middle East. In any case, evolution theory says nothing at all about patterns of human migration.

4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.

No, evolution theory says nothing about this supposed "bottleneck." Also, 5,000 years is not 40,000 years.

5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.

No, evolution theory says nothing at all about recorded history.

Why dont they just admit it?

Probably because they know the difference between the theory of evolution, which is part of biology, and such fields as cosmology, anthropology, and history. Perhaps it would be a good idea if you learned those differences as well.

Also, there is no such thing as an "evolutionist."

 

[Sugarhitman]

1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing.

No, evolution theory says nothing at all about the origin of the universe.

I said EVOs...as in EVO scientists adherents?

2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans

No, evolution theory says nothing at all about the origin of the oceans.

But EVOs do, as Ive debated them before.

Well, humans have legs, you know, so for them to have migrated form somewhere to somewhere else is a pretty obvious notion.

And Africa is not the Middle East. In any case, evolution theory says nothing at all about patterns of human migration.

Didnt say it was, and EVOs says a lot about "patterns of human migration".

No, evolution theory says nothing about this supposed "bottleneck." Also, 5,000 years is not 40,000 years.

They simply extended the years a bit.

5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.

No, evolution theory says nothing at all about recorded history.

But EVOs do.

Why dont they just admit it?

Probably because they know the difference between the theory of evolution, which is part of biology, and such fields as cosmology, anthropology, and history. Perhaps it would be a good idea if you learned those differences as well.

I know the difference..noticed I didnt say what you particular fields claims...I said EVOs...as in individuals?

Also, there is no such thing as an "evolutionist."

No more than there are creationists?

 

[Dr.Drock]

LOL you kids are so adorable!


Keep up the great entertainment Sugar!!!


I just wish Dragon hadn't shredded your entire premise so quickly, wish he would've let it simmer a little while.

 

[Dragon]

No more than there are creationists?

There are creationists because there are people who call themselves that. There are no evolutionists, or "Evos," or whatever, because there are no people who call themselves that.

 

[Dr.Drock]

No more than there are creationists?

There are creationists because there are people who call themselves that. There are no evolutionists, or "Evos," or whatever, because there are no people who call themselves that.

You haven't heard the term. Those of us who don't deny the theory of gravity are called Gravos. It's all the buzz.

 

[Sugarhitman]

LOL you kids are so adorable!


Keep up the great entertainment Sugar!!!


I just wish Dragon hadn't shredded your entire premise so quickly, wish he would've let it simmer a little while.

It appears he's not a very good chef.

 

[FurthurBB]

Hey, folks, has it ever occurred to you that EVOs are either borrowing theories from Creos, or they are unwittingly confirming the Biblical Narrative.


1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing. The Bible states God created the universe out of nothing.


2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans....which is that the earth was struck by multiple comet impacts, and then it rained and rained and rained and walla!! The oceans!


3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.


4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.


5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.


Why dont they just admit it?

Evolution does not deal with any of these things. I think you are a little confused about the branches of science.

 

[Sugarhitman]

Hey, folks, has it ever occurred to you that EVOs are either borrowing theories from Creos, or they are unwittingly confirming the Biblical Narrative.


1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing. The Bible states God created the universe out of nothing.


2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans....which is that the earth was struck by multiple comet impacts, and then it rained and rained and rained and walla!! The oceans!


3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.


4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.


5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.


Why dont they just admit it?

Evolution does not deal with any of these things. I think you are a little confused about the branches of science.

EVOs both believe and promote those theories...Ive been debating them for the last 4 years.

 

[FurthurBB]

Hey, folks, has it ever occurred to you that EVOs are either borrowing theories from Creos, or they are unwittingly confirming the Biblical Narrative.


1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing. The Bible states God created the universe out of nothing.


2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans....which is that the earth was struck by multiple comet impacts, and then it rained and rained and rained and walla!! The oceans!


3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.


4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.


5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.


Why dont they just admit it?

Evolution does not deal with any of these things. I think you are a little confused about the branches of science.

EVOs both believe and promote those theories...Ive been debating them for the last 4 years.

Well, I don't know what EVOs are, but none of the things you stated have anything to do with evolutionary biology.

 

[rdean]

Hey, folks, has it ever occurred to you that EVOs are either borrowing theories from Creos, or they are unwittingly confirming the Biblical Narrative.


1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing. The Bible states God created the universe out of nothing.


2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans....which is that the earth was struck by multiple comet impacts, and then it rained and rained and rained and walla!! The oceans!


3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.


4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.


5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.


Why dont they just admit it?

Talk about "spin".

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPn8pNEYk8&]Tanura - Drehtanz - Derwisch mit Asita - orientalischer Tanz - YouTube[/ame]

 

[hjmick]

Funny shit, this...

 

[Youwerecreated]

Hey, folks, has it ever occurred to you that EVOs are either borrowing theories from Creos, or they are unwittingly confirming the Biblical Narrative.


1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing. The Bible states God created the universe out of nothing.


2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans....which is that the earth was struck by multiple comet impacts, and then it rained and rained and rained and walla!! The oceans!


3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.


4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.


5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.


Why dont they just admit it?

Talk about "spin".

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPn8pNEYk8&]Tanura - Drehtanz - Derwisch mit Asita - orientalischer Tanz - YouTube[/ame]

How is that ,the bible was written long before the first talk of evolution

 

[rdean]

Hey, folks, has it ever occurred to you that EVOs are either borrowing theories from Creos, or they are unwittingly confirming the Biblical Narrative.


1. EVOs claims the Universe came out of nothing. The Bible states God created the universe out of nothing.


2. EVOs often ridicule Creos about Noah's Flood, but they have their own Flood Theory concerning the origin of the seas, and oceans....which is that the earth was struck by multiple comet impacts, and then it rained and rained and rained and walla!! The oceans!


3. EVOs claims that Humans split and migrated out of Africa. The Bible states humans split and migrated out of the Middle-East.


4. EVOs claims that Humans suffered a severe bottleneck between 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. The Bible states humans suffered a bottleneck about 5000 years ago.


5. EVOs admit that recorded history is about 6000-5000 years old. The Bible shows it to be about 5000 years old.


Why dont they just admit it?

Talk about "spin".

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPn8pNEYk8&]Tanura - Drehtanz - Derwisch mit Asita - orientalischer Tanz - YouTube[/ame]

How is that ,the bible was written long before the first talk of evolution

Even before they knew to wash after wiping. That must make it right.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Talk about "spin".

Tanura - Drehtanz - Derwisch mit Asita - orientalischer Tanz - YouTube

How is that ,the bible was written long before the first talk of evolution

Even before they knew to wash after wiping. That must make it right.

The bible speaks on being clean I guess you have to pick up a bible and read to know such things.

 

[rdean]

How is that ,the bible was written long before the first talk of evolution

Even before they knew to wash after wiping. That must make it right.

The bible speaks on being clean I guess you have to pick up a bible and read to know such things.

Depends on how you define "clean". I suspect they were talking about a person's "sins" being "washed away". They knew nothing of germs. They thought illness was caused by "demons".

If you have a Bible, make sure it's in English.

 

[amrchaos]

An evolutionists is what Creationists calls people that hold some belief into "Theological Challenging" theories from science.

For instance, assertion that the theory of evolution is creditiable or contains some merit makes you an Evolutionists.

Belief in General Relativity can make you an "Evolutionists" in the eyes of Evangelicals.



On the other hand, belief in gravity does not because creationists believe in the theory of gravity themselves.

Also, belief that the Earth is older than 6000-10,000 years is accepted by most creationists although there are evangelicals that claim otherwise!

It is a slow process.

 

[Youwerecreated]

An evolutionists is what Creationists calls people that hold some belief into "Theological Challenging" theories from science.

For instance, assertion that the theory of evolution is creditiable or contains some merit makes you an Evolutionists.

Belief in General Relativity can make you an "Evolutionists" in the eyes of Evangelicals.



On the other hand, belief in gravity does not because creationists believe in the theory of gravity themselves.

Also, belief that the Earth is older than 6000-10,000 years is accepted by most creationists although there are evangelicals that claim otherwise!

It is a slow process.

Well no one knows for sure how long creation took,but according to the bible man has been on this planet for 6,000 years. Man was not the first thing created.

Yeah it's a slow process we won't know for sure until our creator tells us.

 

[zzzz]

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No, evolution theory says nothing about this supposed "bottleneck." Also, 5,000 years is not 40,000 years.
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In Anthropology is commonly understood that there have been 2 bottlenecks in human genetic history. What caused these bottlenecks are still a mystery but there are several theories. But here is a paper which addresses the bottleneck issue which you say evolution theory says nothing about.

There is a strong consensus that modern humans originated in Africa and moved out to colonize the world approximately 50 000 years ago. During the process of expansion, variability was lost, creating a linear gradient of decreasing diversity with increasing distance from Africa. However, the exact way in which this loss occurred remains somewhat unclear: did it involve one, a few or a continuous series of population bottlenecks? We addressed this by analysing a large published dataset of 783 microsatellite loci genotyped in 53 worldwide populations, using the program ‘BOTTLENECK’. Immediately following a sharp population decline, rare alleles are lost faster than heterozygosity, creating a transient excess of heterozygosity relative to allele number, a feature that is used by BOTTLENECK to infer historical events. We find evidence of two primary events, one ‘out of Africa’ and one placed around the Bering Strait, where an ancient land bridge allowed passage into the Americas. These findings agree well with the regions of the world where the largest founder events might have been expected, but contrast with the apparently smooth gradient of variability that is revealed when current heterozygosity is plotted against distance from Africa.

Evidence that two main bottleneck events shaped modern human genetic diversity