Eviction of 9 Palestinian Families from East Jerusalem by Israeli Police

[Neser Boha]

A big leftist antisemitic eye!

Go fuck yourself.

 

[Neser Boha]

In searching for info on eviction procedures in Israel I found this :

Most of West Jerusalem is off-limits to Palestinian residents of Jerusalem in terms of their ability to purchase property. This is because most of West Jerusalem, like most of Israel, is “State Land” (in all, 93% of land in Israel is “State Land,” though the percentage is lower in Jerusalem). Under Israeli law, to qualify to purchase property on “State Land” the purchaser must either be a citizen of Israel (Palestinian Jerusalemites are legal residents if the city, not citizens of Israel) or legally entitled to citizenship under the law of return (i.e. Jewish). This means an Israeli or a Jew from anywhere in the world can purchase such property in West Jerusalem, but not a Palestinian resident of the city. (Technically, by the way, these are generally not purchases but long-term leases.)
With respect to private land in West Jerusalem, legally there are no limitations on Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem purchasing in such areas. Similarly, there are no legal limitations on Palestinian residents of Jerusalem renting in West Jerusalem. However, we are unfamiliar with a single case of a Palestinian who holds Jerusalem residency who is living in West Jerusalem, either through purchase or rental of property (and we are very familiar with this issue). The reasons for this are social, cultural, and economic. This is distinct, by the way, from Arab citizens of Israel, a small number of who do live in West Jerusalem.

In addition, it should be emphasized that the ban on purchase of property on “State Lands” by Palestinian residents of Jerusalem extends to East Jerusalem. Not only are Palestinian Jerusalemites barred from purchasing property in most of West Jerusalem, but they are also barred from purchasing property in the 35% of East Jerusalem that Israel has expropriated as “State Land” since 1967, and on which Israel’s East Jerusalem settlements have been built. This means that in more than 1/3 of East Jerusalem, Israelis and Jews from anywhere in the world have a right to buy property in Israeli settlements, but not Palestinian residents of Jerusalem, including the very residents whose land was expropriated to build these settlements.

The Peace Now Blog » Abusing Jerusalem to Assail Peace: the Case of the Shepherd’s Hotel

Its called a strategy! The Jews want to pack as many Jews into Jerusalem as possible! Jerusalem is 35% Jewish. Eastern Jerusalem is now 40% Jewish! The Israelis are trying to get it to be majority Jewish throughout. They want to make a claim on it in the end solution in I/P conflict. Having a majority in all of Jerusalem is a good method!

The Palestinians are using a strategy also to prevent an annexation of both Gaza and the West Bank. Which is reproduce rabbits!

You stupid racist fuck.

 

[Shogun]

A big leftist antisemitic eye!

Go fuck yourself.

do you SEE what I have to work with around here?

 

[Neser Boha]

A big leftist antisemitic eye!

Go fuck yourself.

do you SEE what I have to work with around here?

He is a useless little clown. He's so fanatical that he will actually give the proof to all of us that he is a racist prick while still feeling that he's on the 'right' side. He can call somebody a cockroach and at the same time play the part of a victim. He's a snake. Disingenuous, false, lying little snake.

The problem is that I haven't even said who I think is right or wrong yet... I'm still in the process of searching for the answer. However, the international condemnation of Israeli police actions does make me lean towards the Palestinians' claims... and also after reading the amazing religious fanatical quotes from the fucker leading the organization that tries to Judify (or whatever) Jerusalem.

It's a whole group of people that can be openly racist, openly try to push certain ethnic group out of the city while still being treated well by the western media... in other countries such a group would be equated with neo-nazis or such.

Wow... I am at loss for words.

 

[GHook93]

He is a useless little clown. He's so fanatical that he will actually give the proof to all of us that he is a racist prick while still feeling that he's on the 'right' side.

I think I have been very objective on the situationm unlike you and the ultra bigoted Shogun!

Here are 2 previous threads of prove
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1013996-post1.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1089980-post1.html

 

[GHook93]

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The problem is that I haven't even said who I think is right or wrong yet... I'm still in the process of searching for the answer. However, the international condemnation of Israeli police actions does make me lean towards the Palestinians' claims... and also after reading the amazing religious fanatical quotes from the fucker leading the organization that tries to Judify (or whatever) Jerusalem.

Hey meathead, it doesn't take a genious to see which way you sway, esp by the posts you made in this thread!

It's a whole group of people that can be openly racist, openly try to push certain ethnic group out of the city while still being treated well by the western media... in other countries such a group would be equated with neo-nazis or such.

No its not stupid! Its about the courts enforcing a recent contract to purchase land from a willing seller to a willing buyer in which the buyer transferred funds!

. Wow... I am at loss for words.

Not shocking! Getting even the word "the" out must be a struggle for you, which such limited mental capacity!

 

[Neser Boha]

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Eviction in battle for East Jerusalem

A bit of a side note, an interesting article... the families were living in houses close to Moskowitz's hotel (Shepherd's hotel)... Here's an WSJ article on Moskowitz's housing project:

JERUSALEM -- Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reasserted Israeli sovereignty over East Jerusalem, a predominantly Arab section of the city, rebuffing a U.S. request that Israel halt a construction project in a Palestinian neighborhood by a developer with close ties to Jewish settlers.

"We cannot accept the idea that Jews will not have the right to live and buy [homes] anywhere in Jerusalem," Mr. Netanyahu said at his weekly cabinet meeting Sunday.

His comments came in response to reports leaked to Israel's two leading Hebrew-language newspapers and published Sunday that U.S. State Department officials last week expressed opposition to the project in a meeting with Israel's ambassador to Washington, Michael Oren.

Mr. Netanyahu's spokesman, Mark Regev, confirmed the meeting between Mr. Oren and senior State Department officials. A State Department spokesman said Sunday, "Our policy is clear on the status of Jerusalem. It's a final status issue" -- meaning disputes over the city will be resolved in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

The disagreement over the East Jerusalem property is likely to complicate tense relations between Mr. Netanyahu and the Obama administration, which has demanded Israel freeze building in Jewish settlements in the West Bank including in East Jerusalem.

The dispute threatens to thrust one of the conflict's most delicate issues -- the status of Jerusalem -- into already tough negotiations between the Obama administration's Mideast peace envoy, George Mitchell, and Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

Mr. Oren sought to play down reports of a growing rift between Israel and the U.S.

"Whatever disagreements we have, whether on the issue of a settlement freeze or on Jerusalem, there is no crisis in U.S.-Israeli relations," he said.

Mr. Mitchell is due in Israel this month to continue negotiations, which have dragged on for weeks. There are mixed reports over how close the two sides are to an agreement. Significant differences persist over how many housing units under construction in the settlements can be completed, how long the freeze would remain in effect, what the mechanism would be to end the freeze, and what concessions Arab states would deliver in exchange for the freeze, according to sources familiar with the talks.

Recently Mr. Mitchell has appeared more eager to conclude a deal with Israel because the Obama administration has begun worrying that Arab states and the Palestinians will refuse to offer concessions of their own or increase their demands as long as they believe the U.S. will do all the heavy lifting to sway Israel, the sources said.

"We have a situation now where both the Syrians and Palestinians have made an absolute settlement freeze a precondition for resuming talks and that's a completely new demand," said Mr. Oren, the Israeli ambassador.

White House officials declined to comment.

The current dispute centers on a storied lot in the East Jerusalem neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah that became the Shepherd Hotel. The property was once owned by Jerusalem's leading Muslim cleric, the Grand Mufti Muhammad Amin al-Husseini.

The state of Israel seized the property after the 1967 War. In 1985 it was sold to Irving Moskowitz, an American millionaire.

For years, Mr. Moskowitz's plans to develop the Shepherd's Hotel property have been held up by successive Israeli governments reluctant to approve the project. On July 2, the Jerusalem municipality officials voted to approve a plan to develop 20 residential units.

Mr. Moskowitz couldn't be reached to comment.

A statement from the Jerusalem mayor's office said the decision was made in the course of the routine planning process and in accordance with Israeli law "according to equal criteria for all issues of construction permits, without regard to race, creed, gender, religion, or national identity of the resident or property owner."

Critics of the Mr. Moskowitz's project say such settler developments are exclusively for Jews with the intent of altering the demographic balance in Jerusalem and securing Jewish control over historically Arab neighborhoods.

This is where I got the fact that the families lived next to Moskowitz's property:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/03/East-Jerusalem-eviction-draws-fire/UPI-79621249308688/

The properties are located near the Shepherd's Hotel, which created headlines two weeks ago when the U.S. State department advised Israel not to go ahead with plans by American millionaire Irving Moskowitz to build housing units for 20 Jewish families there.

 

[Neser Boha]

He is a useless little clown. He's so fanatical that he will actually give the proof to all of us that he is a racist prick while still feeling that he's on the 'right' side.

I think I have been very objective on the situationm unlike you and the ultra bigoted Shogun!

Here are 2 previous threads of prove
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1013996-post1.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1089980-post1.html

Objective, you stupid fuck? You pulled the 'anti-semite' bazooka on me the first chance you got even though I haven's said anything even REMOTELY anti-semitic, you pus-bag! You wouldn't know objectivity if it sucked your dick and swallowed, you piece of shit! I have no respect for you whatsoever because you never play fair! "Can't debate? Just call her an antisemite!" That's GHooker's game... You filthy scumsucker.

FIND ONE - ONE ANTISEMITIC THING I SAID - YOU RACIST PIECE OF SHIT.

 

[GHook93]

Its not an issue going back to squattering in 1948, rather is about enforcing a recent sales contract between 2 willing and able parties! See the real story below!


Netanyahu to U.S.: Israel will govern itself, thank you

Believe it or not the Israel Supreme Court is a very FAIR court!

The eviction yesterday in Jerusalem was a result of a ruling by our Supreme Court that had to decide in a dispute between two parties over the legal control of a property," Netanyahu's spokesman, Mark Regev, told WND.

Continued Regev: "The Supreme Court ruled for one side and not the other. In all democracies the rulings of the courts must be upheld, and it is incumbent on the executive branch to implement such decisions."

Regev said the Israeli Supreme Court "is renowned internationally for both its independence and its professionalism. There are countless examples of the Supreme Court ruling in favor of the Palestinians in land disputes."

THE TRUE STORY - the Background that the Media is Neglecting to Mention!

Many of the reports failed to provide proper background regarding why the Arabs were kicked out of the home.

The housing complex is located in the Sheik Jarra neighborhood of eastern Jerusalem. The home was originally Jewish, but its Jewish occupants were chased out during countrywide anti-Jewish Arab riots in 1929. Arabs then squatted on the property, with one family, the Hejazi family, becoming the de facto occupants despite never having purchased the property.

Even though documentation shows the complex is owned by Jews and that Arabs have been squatting on it illegally for almost a century, Jewish groups say they still legally re-purchased the property from the Hejazi family.

Why the Seller Buckled at the Knees! Selling to Jews is High Treason! Wow! Imagine if Israel stated selling to Arabs was high treason (meaning we will KILL YOU)? Left asses would be in an uproar!

Following pressure from the Palestinian Authority, however, the family later denied selling the complex back to the Jews despite documentation and other evidence showing the sale went through.

The PA in April warned Palestinians against selling their homes or properties to Jews, saying those who violate the order would be accused of "high treason" – a charge that carries the death penalty.

Israel's court system twice ruled the property in question belongs to Jews.

Look at the Leftest European Media at Work! Slander the Jews to appease their ever growing disenchanted Muslim population!

Articles on the topic by Agence France-Presse and Reuters use the terms "occupied" and "East Jerusalem" to describe the area in which the house is located. Reuters called it "occupied Arab East Jerusalem."

According to international law, however, eastern sections of Jerusalem are not "occupied" but "disputed." Referring to the area as "Arab East Jerusalem" presupposes the outcome of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations that have yet to take place and ignores British documentation that authenticates Jews outnumbered Arabs in eastern Jerusalem from the 19th century until Jews were expelled by Arabs in 1929.

The use of the term "East Jerusalem" is widespread. Historically, however, there was never any separation between eastern and western Jerusalem. The terminology came after Jordan occupied the eastern section of the city, including the Temple Mount, from 1947 until it used the territory to attack the Jewish state in 1967. Israel reunited Jerusalem when it won the 1967 Six Day War, although the Palestinians claim eastern sections for a future capital. .

The eviction of squatting Arabs from a Jewish-owned property in Jerusalem follows recent demands by the Obama administration for Israel to halt all "settlement activity," meaning Jewish construction, in Jerusalem and the strategic West Bank.

Last month, Israel's ambassador to Washington was summoned by the State Department to demand a Jewish construction project in eastern Jerusalem be immediately halted.

The construction project at the center of attention, financed by Miami Beach philanthropist Irving Moskowitz, is located just yards from Israel's national police headquarters and other government ministries. It is a few blocks from the country's prestigious Hebrew University, underscoring the centrality of the Jewish real estate being condemned by the U.S.

Netanyahu strongly rejected the State Department demand, telling a cabinet meeting Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem was not a matter up for discussion.

"Imagine what would happen if someone were to suggest Jews could not live in or purchase [property] in certain neighborhoods in London, New York, Paris or Rome," he said just after his ambassador was summoned.

"The international community would certainly raise protest. Likewise, we cannot accept such a ruling on East Jerusalem," Netanyahu told ministers.

 

[Shogun]

He is a useless little clown. He's so fanatical that he will actually give the proof to all of us that he is a racist prick while still feeling that he's on the 'right' side.

I think I have been very objective on the situationm unlike you and the ultra bigoted Shogun!

Here are 2 previous threads of prove
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1013996-post1.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1089980-post1.html

he said "VERY OBJECTIVE"!

 

[Shogun]

Notice that Jew Hook NEVER EVER EVER wants to admit that HE would reject American citizenship if it required him to admit that the US IS PRIMARILY FOR WHITE ANGLO SAXON PROTESTANTS with state based demographic manipulation to guarantee a white dominance.....


yet, he has NO problem wondering why arabs in israel balk at citizenship when required the exact same thing regarding a JEWISH ISRAEL.


Yea, Nes.. I think you nailed ole Nosejob on the proverbial head.

 

[Neser Boha]

Its not an issue going back to squattering in 1948, rather is about enforcing a recent sales contract between 2 willing and able parties! See the real story below!


Netanyahu to U.S.: Israel will govern itself, thank you

Believe it or not the Israel Supreme Court is a very FAIR court!

The eviction yesterday in Jerusalem was a result of a ruling by our Supreme Court that had to decide in a dispute between two parties over the legal control of a property," Netanyahu's spokesman, Mark Regev, told WND.

Continued Regev: "The Supreme Court ruled for one side and not the other. In all democracies the rulings of the courts must be upheld, and it is incumbent on the executive branch to implement such decisions."

Regev said the Israeli Supreme Court "is renowned internationally for both its independence and its professionalism. There are countless examples of the Supreme Court ruling in favor of the Palestinians in land disputes."

THE TRUE STORY - the Background that the Media is Neglecting to Mention!

Many of the reports failed to provide proper background regarding why the Arabs were kicked out of the home.

The housing complex is located in the Sheik Jarra neighborhood of eastern Jerusalem. The home was originally Jewish, but its Jewish occupants were chased out during countrywide anti-Jewish Arab riots in 1929. Arabs then squatted on the property, with one family, the Hejazi family, becoming the de facto occupants despite never having purchased the property.

Even though documentation shows the complex is owned by Jews and that Arabs have been squatting on it illegally for almost a century, Jewish groups say they still legally re-purchased the property from the Hejazi family.

Why the Seller Buckled at the Knees! Selling to Jews is High Treason! Wow! Imagine if Israel stated selling to Arabs was high treason (meaning we will KILL YOU)? Left asses would be in an uproar!

Following pressure from the Palestinian Authority, however, the family later denied selling the complex back to the Jews despite documentation and other evidence showing the sale went through.

The PA in April warned Palestinians against selling their homes or properties to Jews, saying those who violate the order would be accused of "high treason" – a charge that carries the death penalty.

Israel's court system twice ruled the property in question belongs to Jews.

Look at the Leftest European Media at Work! Slander the Jews to appease their ever growing disenchanted Muslim population!

Articles on the topic by Agence France-Presse and Reuters use the terms "occupied" and "East Jerusalem" to describe the area in which the house is located. Reuters called it "occupied Arab East Jerusalem."

According to international law, however, eastern sections of Jerusalem are not "occupied" but "disputed." Referring to the area as "Arab East Jerusalem" presupposes the outcome of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations that have yet to take place and ignores British documentation that authenticates Jews outnumbered Arabs in eastern Jerusalem from the 19th century until Jews were expelled by Arabs in 1929.

The use of the term "East Jerusalem" is widespread. Historically, however, there was never any separation between eastern and western Jerusalem. The terminology came after Jordan occupied the eastern section of the city, including the Temple Mount, from 1947 until it used the territory to attack the Jewish state in 1967. Israel reunited Jerusalem when it won the 1967 Six Day War, although the Palestinians claim eastern sections for a future capital. .

The eviction of squatting Arabs from a Jewish-owned property in Jerusalem follows recent demands by the Obama administration for Israel to halt all "settlement activity," meaning Jewish construction, in Jerusalem and the strategic West Bank.

Last month, Israel's ambassador to Washington was summoned by the State Department to demand a Jewish construction project in eastern Jerusalem be immediately halted.

The construction project at the center of attention, financed by Miami Beach philanthropist Irving Moskowitz, is located just yards from Israel's national police headquarters and other government ministries. It is a few blocks from the country's prestigious Hebrew University, underscoring the centrality of the Jewish real estate being condemned by the U.S.

Netanyahu strongly rejected the State Department demand, telling a cabinet meeting Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem was not a matter up for discussion.

"Imagine what would happen if someone were to suggest Jews could not live in or purchase [property] in certain neighborhoods in London, New York, Paris or Rome," he said just after his ambassador was summoned.

"The international community would certainly raise protest. Likewise, we cannot accept such a ruling on East Jerusalem," Netanyahu told ministers.

I like especially the part where the author of this article calls the Palestinians 'Arabs'...

It is also interesting that the article speaks of the occupied Eastern Jerusalem not as occupied, but 'disputed' and then goes on saying that Israel won it in the 1967 war. Ehm, that's occupation. It's funny that the article doesn't mention at all the UN decision that designated Jerusalem an international territory that is not to be owned or occupied by any country.

"Imagine what would happen if someone were to suggest Jews could not live in or purchase [property] in certain neighborhoods in London, New York, Paris or Rome," he said just after his ambassador was summoned.

"The international community would certainly raise protest. Likewise, we cannot accept such a ruling on East Jerusalem," Netanyahu told ministers.

The article completely ignores the context in which this is happening. This is not happening in any city that belongs to any sovereign country, this city is occupied by Israel, it is not at all like 'New York, Paris or Rome'. It is also funny how Netanyahu speaks of Jews not being able to live there trying to make it an issue where Jews are being unjustly singled out. Which is pure bullshit. I can see where this is going.. slowly descending towards the 'crying anti-semite' tactic. I'm feeling slightly sick to my stomach.

Besides that... it seems one side claims one thing and the other - another thing. Also, the articles I've read - the ones I posted simply claim something else than this article does. Obviously, it is no clear-cut issue - as it's been recognized by world governments via condemning Israeli actions.

The situation between Israel and Palestinians is already a really messy one, adding this into the empire state bulding-sized closet full of corpses doesn't help anyone. And world leaders recognize that. GHook doesn't. It's as simple as that.

A side note, the death penalty for Palestinians that are selling land to Jews is fucked up. More than fucked up, it's sick. It's yet another proof how long this issue has been left unresolved - so long that it gave rise to some gruesome shit.

 

[Gudrid]

Sometimes Israel is right. Sometimes Israel is wrong. From what I've seen, people tend to either by blatantly pro-Israel, where Israel can do no wrong, or blatantly anti-Israel, where Israel can do no right. The conversation on the Israel situation has become so polarized that we can't see the forest for the trees anymore, so to speak.

Sure. How about we focus on the issue at hand. Is Israel right or wrong in regards to this case? I'd like to find out. I want to know what the hell is going on. I've been keeping an eye on Isr/Pal 'conflict' for the past 9 years... I don't think you can summarize the problem in a few snazzy sentences.

I have focused on the issue at hand. How about if I post what I feel is relevant and you post what you feel is relevant. Also, you might want to read back through the thread, as I've posted more than a few sentences. Ironically enough, usually what I hear is that I go on too long, not that I've posted too few sentences. That's sort of a refreshing change.

I think what I see is an anti-Semite blathering, a person who does not come off as anti-Semitic but does come off as having an anti-Israel biased making a judgment without knowing the full story yet, and a person who comes off as having a pro-Israel bias making a judgment without having the full story yet. Oh, and someone who for some reason has something against tents. And I don't know if Israel is right or wrong for sure on this one personally aside from what I've already said, which is that they to be consistent in whether or not they're going to apply pre-1948 deeds. And I think that pretty much covers this thread in a few sentences (I'll leave it to you to decide if they're snazzy or not.)

Personally, I think Jerusalem should be made an international city with strict secular regulations and call it a day.

 

[Neser Boha]

Sometimes Israel is right. Sometimes Israel is wrong. From what I've seen, people tend to either by blatantly pro-Israel, where Israel can do no wrong, or blatantly anti-Israel, where Israel can do no right. The conversation on the Israel situation has become so polarized that we can't see the forest for the trees anymore, so to speak.

Sure. How about we focus on the issue at hand. Is Israel right or wrong in regards to this case? I'd like to find out. I want to know what the hell is going on. I've been keeping an eye on Isr/Pal 'conflict' for the past 9 years... I don't think you can summarize the problem in a few snazzy sentences.

I have focused on the issue at hand. How about if I post what I feel is relevant and you post what you feel is relevant. Also, you might want to read back through the thread, as I've posted more than a few sentences. Ironically enough, usually what I hear is that I go on too long, not that I've posted too few sentences. That's sort of a refreshing change.

I think what I see is an anti-Semite blathering, a person who does not come off as anti-Semitic but does come off as having an anti-Israel biased making a judgment without knowing the full story yet, and a person who comes off as having a pro-Israel bias making a judgment without having the full story yet. Oh, and someone who for some reason has something against tents. And I don't know if Israel is right or wrong for sure on this one personally aside from what I've already said, which is that they to be consistent in whether or not they're going to apply pre-1948 deeds. And I think that pretty much covers this thread in a few sentences (I'll leave it to you to decide if they're snazzy or not.)

Personally, I think Jerusalem should be made an international city with strict secular regulations and call it a day.

Thank you. I think so too. As a matter of fact, so do the United Nations.

Resolves that the Holy Places - including Nazareth - religious buildings and sites in Palestine should be protected and free access to them assured, in accordance with existing rights and historical practice; that arrangements to this end should be under effective United Nations supervision; that the United Nations Conciliation Commission, in presenting to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly its detailed proposals for a permanent international regime for the territory of Jerusalem, should include recommendations concerning the Holy Places in that territory; that with regard to the Holy Places in the rest of Palestine the Commission should call upon the political authorities of the areas concerned to give appropriate formal guarantees as to the protection of the Holy Places and access to them; and that these undertakings should be presented to the General Assembly for approval;

UN Resolution 194

 

[Shogun]

It's hilarious that noobtube proclaims that he sees an antisemite.... but only a "pro israeli"



I tellya, with insight like that it's no wonder why helmets are made for adult heads.

 

[GHook93]

Sure. How about we focus on the issue at hand. Is Israel right or wrong in regards to this case? I'd like to find out. I want to know what the hell is going on. I've been keeping an eye on Isr/Pal 'conflict' for the past 9 years... I don't think you can summarize the problem in a few snazzy sentences.

I have focused on the issue at hand. How about if I post what I feel is relevant and you post what you feel is relevant. Also, you might want to read back through the thread, as I've posted more than a few sentences. Ironically enough, usually what I hear is that I go on too long, not that I've posted too few sentences. That's sort of a refreshing change.

I think what I see is an anti-Semite blathering, a person who does not come off as anti-Semitic but does come off as having an anti-Israel biased making a judgment without knowing the full story yet, and a person who comes off as having a pro-Israel bias making a judgment without having the full story yet. Oh, and someone who for some reason has something against tents. And I don't know if Israel is right or wrong for sure on this one personally aside from what I've already said, which is that they to be consistent in whether or not they're going to apply pre-1948 deeds. And I think that pretty much covers this thread in a few sentences (I'll leave it to you to decide if they're snazzy or not.)

Personally, I think Jerusalem should be made an international city with strict secular regulations and call it a day.

Thank you. I think so too. As a matter of fact, so do the United Nations.

Resolves that the Holy Places - including Nazareth - religious buildings and sites in Palestine should be protected and free access to them assured, in accordance with existing rights and historical practice; that arrangements to this end should be under effective United Nations supervision; that the United Nations Conciliation Commission, in presenting to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly its detailed proposals for a permanent international regime for the territory of Jerusalem, should include recommendations concerning the Holy Places in that territory; that with regard to the Holy Places in the rest of Palestine the Commission should call upon the political authorities of the areas concerned to give appropriate formal guarantees as to the protection of the Holy Places and access to them; and that these undertakings should be presented to the General Assembly for approval;

UN Resolution 194

LOL, international city! Because there are so many run so well! The UN has proven time and time again that they can't run anything! How did that Rwanda thing work out for them!

Nesar it never amazes me how clueless and naive the left really are!

 

[Gudrid]

Thank you. I think so too. As a matter of fact, so do the United Nations.

Resolves that the Holy Places - including Nazareth - religious buildings and sites in Palestine should be protected and free access to them assured, in accordance with existing rights and historical practice; that arrangements to this end should be under effective United Nations supervision; that the United Nations Conciliation Commission, in presenting to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly its detailed proposals for a permanent international regime for the territory of Jerusalem, should include recommendations concerning the Holy Places in that territory; that with regard to the Holy Places in the rest of Palestine the Commission should call upon the political authorities of the areas concerned to give appropriate formal guarantees as to the protection of the Holy Places and access to them; and that these undertakings should be presented to the General Assembly for approval;

UN Resolution 194

Yep, I think that's the best solution in Jerusalem. I do have some qualms about the UN in that area - Hamas made it hobby to infiltrate there (which is partially how UN vehicles ended up getting involved in terrorist attacks). I'd like to see an international force there manned by people as uninvolved in the conflict as possible. Send in some Canadians and some Swedes or something. I'm sure that's totally unrealistic, but I'm still all for it.

Take away Jerusalem, and you take away a large keg in the conflict machine, in my opinion. And then there will be less need of figuring out over and over who's wrong this time around.

 

[Anguille]

I've been keeping an eye on Isr/Pal 'conflict' for the past 9 years....

A big leftist antisemitic eye!

lame

 

[GHook93]

I've been keeping an eye on Isr/Pal 'conflict' for the past 9 years....

A big leftist antisemitic eye!

lame

Hey Ang, in Neser's case I am only calling it as it is! Don't shoot me for being honest!

 

[Anguille]

I've been keeping an eye on Isr/Pal 'conflict' for the past 9 years....

A big leftist antisemitic eye!

lame

Hey Ang, in Neser's case I am only calling it as it is! Don't shoot me for being honest!

IMO you failed to make your case.