Everything but marriage

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    So much for them claiming that they "just don't want it called marriage" bullshit. Yes, they are trying to kill this even though it doesn't call it marriage. Hypocrites.

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    So, the gay advocates come up with the perfect compromise, it's not marriage by title or legal definition, but they still try to stop it. So far all I see from the anti-gay crowd is their desire to censor everything that they find "offensive" just to protect their over sensitive sensibilities.
     
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    Of course. The Conservatives are for "freedom" as long as they get to define freedom. I really don't give a damn, either way, but what consenting adults choose to do between themselves is their own business. And what they choose to call it should be the same.
     
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    Yes , yes and you would do the same if it were an argument for Incestuous relationships by consenting adults. Or Polygamy.
     
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    No Yurt that is different. Just ask Kittenkodder.
     
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    I don't think there is anything wrong with this bill. I think the political analysis of the bill is wrong too. Far from "teeing it up" for acceptance of same-sex marriage, I think this lets the steam out of the pot. I don't think there will be enough political will behind a "marriage" per se law once rights are legitimized.
     
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    Nope. This case is easily distinguished because it is known that offspring of close family members results in scientifically significant increases in the odds of producing genetic defects. Thus, there is a "compelling state interest" in preventing close family members from marrying and producing offspring.

    Note: compelling state interest is a legal term of art referring to standard of review. Even enumerated rights under the Constitution have had exceptions made to them when there is a compelling state interest for the law.
     
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    LOL

    You thought rightwing christians were telling the truth, that they "only" objected to the relationship being called "marriage"?

    Let me explain something to you. Some of these rightwing christians are the biggest liars on the planet. There's a whole wing of rightwing christian theology that acutally thinks lying is okay, if it serves a broader purpose in promoting their religious views.


    They have a problem with gays, at a very deep, and disturbing personal level. Its got nothing to do with a handful of obscure passages from the old testament.
     
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    Yes. I pretty much agree with you. It seems like all that the opponents have left is the silly domino theory which amounts to: “Oh no! This may lead to polygamy and incest.” Why don’t they say that this may lead to marriage between dogs and people? This will lead to people getting married to their sofas. As I explained before, people are not dominos. With that way of thinking, perhaps we should prohibit all forms of tobacco consumption. Anyway, each issue is different. Each issue might have good points and bad points to ponder. As our understanding and willingness to take changes progresses, these other issues will be discussed and debated on their own merits. Just as we experimented with legalization and prohibition and legalization of alcohol, so it will be with other issues. If we legalize something and later discover that it was a bad idea to do you, we can reverse the law.
     
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    :clap2: :clap2: Right on! Very well put.
     

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