Ever notice about Democrats and Obamacare....

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    All they ever talk about is pre-existing conditions and kids on mom and pops insurance?

    The bill is thousands of pages long and that seems to be all they think is in it. No mention of all the taxes or other provisions. Like a child in a bank always notices the free candy dish and nothing else.
     
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    If you get your insurance through your employer (as most do in this country), you pay no tax.

    There's a lot to like about the Affordable Care Act.
     
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    Agree
    The Left hopes to foster dependency by cherry picking things out of it
    Unfortunately , there is a lot more to dislike than like about Papa Obama Care.
    Which is why Papa Obama distances himself from it and the left
    gets upset when you associated his name with it



    Since the taxpayer has NO option and has to buy or pay the gov't
    It is a tax- can they choose to not pay - no

    Actually one of the largest recessive tax increases in history
     
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    We mention a lot! You want to talk about the tax credits? Or the help for small businesses? Or the exchanges? Or the expanded Medicare options? Or the plugging of the hole in Part D?

    Do you want to talk about the savings from Medicare? Something every conservative has been asking for.

    Just because you don't want to talk about it doesn't mean we aren't.
     
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    Control for Gubmint is paramount. Liberty takes a hit...many will die at the whim of bureaucrats.
     
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    Because those are the 2 Goodies, that sound wonderful. Problem is they are attached to an Unworkable POS bill that is going to Lower the Quality of Care, Cost the Middle Class money that they can not afford, and will not Lower the Cost of Care.

    Republicans should wise up and start talking about those 2 things all the time as well, as the only 2 things they will save out of the ACA when they Repeal it.
     
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    You may get your wish:

    The Supreme Court's Obamacare Ruling - Roberts' Rules of Order - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 06/28/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

    The Governor said he would keep the PEC acceptance plank. He hasn't come around on the 26 y/o plank yet but, you know the Governor; whatever sounds good to you will sound good to him (just make sure you're the last one to talk to him before he signs the bill).
     
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    Tort reform
    which the Left never wants

    and competition across state lines
     
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    The President and Democrats do not want to focus on this, because the Credits are not enough to make the Insurance Affordable to people who can't afford it now, and will Run up the Deficit.

    What help for Small Business? Again the Credits to Spur Small Business to hire are not enough to be effective, and will run up the Debt. The Negative effects on Small Business far out weigh the Positive in the ACA. Hiring is hurting because of the ACA and it's not even fully in effect yet.

    Again going to be very Costly, to our Budget


    The Expanded Medicare Options, which were a Big part of how Obama told us this would help, were just ruled Optional to the States. Considering the Bill only helps them Fund it for a couple of years and then asks them to come up with the money themselves I would not celebrate this.
     

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