Even the Warmists Don't Believe In Global Warming

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Interesting the Dr. Schulz would think that. Especially to those of us that have followed Dr. Semiletov's research into the clathrates since 2003. At that time, elevated CH4 in solution in the water, a bit higher than normal amounts in the air above the water. No plumes, and no methane being directly injected into the atmosphere. By 2010, near saturation points for CH4 in the water, plumes with bubbles of CH4 breaking surface tens of meters across. The air above the ocean containing over 100 times the normal amount of CH4.

Now this year Dr. Semiletov and his team of American and Russian scientists observe in an area of only 100 by 100 miles over 100 plumes, many of which were over a kilometer in diameter, injecting methane directly into the atmosphere. And, by satellites observation of the methane over the Arctic Ocean on the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, there were likely thousands of these plumes.

The same team has measured an increase in temperatures of the water in the area of as much as 3 C. Yet Dr. Schultz states this has nothing to do with the outgassing witnessed this year?

Yes, it's amazing isn't it. More and more research is showing....wait for it....geologic processes and climate cycles occur over....wait for it a little longer.....CENTURIES if not MILLENIA. Wow, MENSA BOY for someone who claims to have taken two years of college level geology you sure don't grasp the concept of geologic time.

 

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Science stunner: Vast East Siberian Arctic Shelf methane stores destabilizing and venting | ThinkProgress

But the situation in the ESAS is far, far more dicey, as NSF explains:

The East Siberian Arctic Shelf, in addition to holding large stores of frozen methane, is more of a concern because it is so shallow. In deep water, methane gas oxidizes into carbon dioxide before it reaches the surface. In the shallows of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf, methane simply doesn’t have enough time to oxidize, which means more of it escapes into the atmosphere. That, combined with the sheer amount of methane in the region, could add a previously uncalculated variable to climate models.

“The release to the atmosphere of only one percent of the methane assumed to be stored in shallow hydrate deposits might alter the current atmospheric burden of methane up to 3 to 4 times,” Shakhova said. “The climatic consequences of this are hard to predict.”

And we also know that a key trigger for accelerated warming in the Arctic region is the loss of sea ice.

A 2008 study by leading tundra experts found “Accelerated Arctic land warming and permafrost degradation during rapid sea ice loss.” The lead author is David Lawrence of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), whom I interviewed for my book and interviewed again via e-mail in 2008. The study’s ominous conclusion:

We find that simulated western Arctic land warming trends during rapid sea ice loss are 3.5 times greater than secular 21st century climate-change trends. The accelerated warming signal penetrates up to 1500 km inland”¦.

Dicey? How? This has been going on for centuries (in fact thousands of years according to the AGU published study) what makes today different from any of those 2,920,000 other days?

 

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Is there really even a question of 'if'? The logical topics of discussion are 'when' and 'how bad'. Just thought I'd clear things up so we can all start a new year with the proper perspective.


HAPPY NEW YEAR

Address the "why".

Can't. That would rely on facts and they have none.