Even prominent skeptics now agree, the earth is warming, and the effect is man-made.

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    Prominent climate change skeptic Richard Muller, in a study funded by the Koch Brothers, admits he was wrong, and that Global Warming is not only real, but is man-made.

    No, you didn't read that wrong.

    A University of Berkeley study, funded by the Koch brothers, has provided conclusive data that agrees with previous assessments by other sources, that show Global Warming is in fact man-made.

    Prominent climate change denier now admits he was wrong (+video) - CSMonitor.com
     
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    so we should now believe what the Koch brothers fund? Correct?
     
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    Since any bias would most assuredly run counter to the results that were found...

    If the posted results were inaccurate due to be funded by the Koch brothers, it would imply that the actual results were even MORE conclusive.

    But I'm going to assume you know that, and are just asking a rhetorical question.
     
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    you're assuming they don't have any ulterior motives.
     
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    I agree that since 1950 that much of the warming is only explainable by the global warming theory, but within the past 10-12 years the rate of warming certainly has slowed. I like the idea's being put forward like solar minimum causing less energy to enter the system and quite possibly more clouds reflecting energy back into space.(Spencer)

    Another was put forward by Hansen? that has to do with oceans pulling the energy into its depths and having heat cycles(shifting from deep ocean to shallow through decades). They make the case that within the next few decades this energy may make it to the surface in a stair stepping pattern. NOT linear. Could be why the warming has slown?

    Either way I think it's pretty strong that the warming during the past 40 years is caused by man.
     
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    Berkeley, truly an institute of vast higher learning.
     
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    I am naturally sceptical of anything paid for by the Koch Brothers.

    That being said, WOW! Muller has been a thorn in the yes its real side for a long time. That he would suddenly change sides is fairly dramatic. And if he indeed has evidence as he claims that is stronger than previous data, then it could spell the end of the debate.

    That being said, its freaking HOT!!! And Im in Minnesota!!!!
     
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    There has been an awful lot of volcanic activity in the last few years. That should by all logic create more cover to cool things a bit. Not feeling it this summer though are we?

    Ive been hoping and praying this last winter and this summer are anomolies and not the new norms.
     
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    That is a good point, I will give you that.

    However, I personally cannot think of anything they could have to gain from this.

    Can you?
     
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    I don't know that well, tbh. why did Ruppert Murdoch donate all that money to Hillary Clinton's candidacy?
     

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