European Socialism or Capitalism

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    If you want to change our form of government from a Constitutional Republic Governed by the Rule of Law to the European Socialism Model, then vote for Obama. Right now the European Nations of France, Greece , Italy Spain are on the verge of collapse.
    However, Obama still wants to redirect our Nation toward European Socialism and Keynesian Economics and expects a different outcome.

    Spain attempted to create a Green Energy driven economy.
    Calzada, an economist, studied Spain's green technology program and found that each green job created in Spain cost Spanish taxpayers $770,000. Each Wind Industry job cost $1.3 million to create.*

    Spain's green technology dream was costing the nation more than $15 billion a year before the government had to slash it because it had failed and Spain was going broke.
    Spain's Green Disaster a Lesson for America - Finance - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
    However, Obama wants to create a Green Technology Driven Economy and expects a different result.

    What is that phrase: If we do not learn history, we are...............
     
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    Comparing "socialism" to a "constitutional republic" doesn't make much sense, since one is an economic system and the other is a form of government.
     
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    Socialism is not a form of Government? This speak volumes about how bad our education system has become.
     
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    Apparently you need to go back to school. You can have a democratic form of government that is socialistic or very conservative; same holds true for our form of a constitutional republic, it can me either very conservative, socialistic or somewhere in between. And last of all, you can have a dictatorship that is socialistic or one that just takes everything from its citizens without giving anything back.
     
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    Now don't confuse they boy, He is already trying to merge two thoughts into one.
     
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    What a hilariously stupid thread!

    OP - can you explain who so many of the "socialist" countries have conservative governments?

    France had conservative government until earlier this year, pain ha conservative government, so do the UK, Germany and Finland, amongst others.

    In the real world, countries like Greece have collapsed because of 30 years of corruption, overspending, reckless borrowing and bad policy - and have done so with a many right wing governments as left wing.

    I'd put money on you never having been to any of the countries you claim to be informing us about.
     
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    Spain has a conservative leader.
     
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    You've been mislead good sir. The USA does not have anything close to "free market capitalism". Most large sectors are state protected monopolies. You need to study who funds elections and why. Definitely turn off talk radio, because the whole point of talk radio is to convince you that anything done to repeal their monopolies is socialism.
     
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    Ugh. Yet another simplistic, either/or choice.

    It's not one or the other, gang. There are elements of America that could be described as "socialism" already, and they've been around for decades. The question is finding equilibrium, the correct balance, that is both acceptable to most and effective.

    We won't get there, though, as long as the narcissistic absolutists are so influential.

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    Shhhhh.... you'll confuse him!
     

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