Europe Wakes Up A Bit

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    They are turning up the heat...........good......
     
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    They had no choice Trump told em ..or else ...
     
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    The North Wind and the Sun is one of Aesop's Fables (Perry Index 46). The moral it teaches about the superiority of persuasion over force has made the story widely known.

    The story concerns a competition between the North Wind and the Sun to decide which is the stronger of the two. The challenge was to make a passing traveler remove his cloak. However hard the North Wind blew, the traveler only wrapped his cloak tighter to keep warm, but when the Sun shone, the traveler was overcome with heat and soon took his cloak off.
     
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    In WWII, the Axis powers were not persuaded. End of lesson.
     
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    Wrong lesson. We bombed Germany's cities night and day just as Germany bombed the Brit's cities before them. The results were the same, no capitulation. If anything, the bombing made the people more patriotic and united.
     
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    What it made them is admit the fact they were totally defeated, which made rebuilding them in a way that we wanted easier.

    We turned two militaristic societies into a bunch of bankers and salarymen.

    This guy tried persuasion, didn't work too well.

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    Germany surrendered, The Nazis were defeated.

    Later, Ka-BOOM and Ka-BOOM! Japan surrendered. Hirohito's forces were defeated.
     
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    You also learned the wrong lesson. The aerial bombing of Britain and Germany did NOT make them admit the fact they were totally defeated. Britain never gave up and Germany had to be occupied by ground forces.
     
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    Your point was your thinking that persuasion is superior to force. They are the same.

    When reason fails, force remains.

    No one has said that the bombing of Germany was all that made them surrender. As to Japan, the second drop did.
     
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