Europe: The Psychological Gap Between East and West.

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    I dont see any link between cultural and physical survival and adherence to religion. Cultures evolve. Always have done. Generally for the better. Our lives are better now than they were 100 years ago and even 50 years ago.
     
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    Eastern Europe sees the same social problems that the Western part. Ageing and declining population - that is the main issue Europe as a whole has (and not only Europe). Economically, the Eastern part isn't even in the same league.

    You mentioned roots. But what these roots are? Christianity? Hardly. I think Ancient Greek and Rome socities are these roots. And basically returning to them began in the Renaissance epoch. But again, this happened primarily in the Western part.
     
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    I look at the UK and I wonder what these roots are. The UK was always an undemocratic place with a poverty stricken underclass. The current culture has its roots in the various reforming liberal and labour governments which provided health,welfare,education and housing for working people. This only really kicked in from the time of the Legendary Lloyd George. I dont see anyone harking back to a golden age before this. Who would want to live in a society where kids are sent up chimneys, where cripples beg for food in the street and life expectancy is minimal.Compared to today those were the dark ages.
     
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    Well, I think that considering the current demographic tendency and global economic development, Europe won't be able to hold the model of social state it has had since 20th century. It will have to 'americanize' its health care and pension system and education.

    The society of 'universal prosperity' is of course a good thing on the one hand. But on the other, it leads to increasing state spending and deficit, and the lack of competitive and enterprising abilities.
     
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    They don't want to accept that benefits require the assumption of responsibilities.
     
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    Jesus.

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    God the father endorsed rape and butchery.
     
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    Be fair, polytheism too.
     
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    This isn't a troll thread.
     
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    I cant accept that really. I think there are vested interests pushing that agenda. If you look at the NHS we have better outcomes for a fraction of US spending. There has been a 10 year strangulation of funding and there are now problems. We need to up our spending to US levels and we will see the problems disappear. There is no room for US vulture type healthcare in an advanced society..
     
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