Discussion in 'General Global Topics' started by Manuel, Jul 21, 2008.
FT.com / World - Europe expected to pull weight on Afghanistan in revival of links
Obama is opposing world opinion.
Obama listens to no one.
Obama is making our allies hate us.
My own country is 'pulling its weight' in Afghanistan in the sense that our soldiers are getting pointlessly killed there, why I don't know - to increase the supply of opium, I suppose, since its widespread cultivation is the main difference from life under the Taliban.
Our government is quite clear on the need for this, because it always does what the US says - one of the many reasons why no-one is voting for it any more - but everyone else is baffled, as they were by the insane invasion of Iraq. You should have been there for the big demo: the only people who were against it kept saying, 'They must know something we don't'. We now know they didn't - they were just lying.
If this particular candidate wants to fight Afghans, let him do it himself, say I - and millions more.
Except, we are not fighting Afghans. We are fighting with the Afghanis against the Taliban and AQ.
The Taliban, so I understand, were the Afghan Government of Afghanistan when we invaded that country. Or were they perhaps Martians? I believe Al Qaida (is it?) probably had something to do with the witch trials in New England and with flying saucers: it has certainly been a very convenient myth to justify an oil empire, but whether it actually exists outside the heads of a few demented Saudi and US fundamentalists is a moot question.
The Taliban seized power by military force. They were an illegal government that was recognised by only two countries, one of which was Pakistan. Their violence and wanton murder of the Afghani people is a matter of record. Of particular note was the massacre at Mazar-i-Sharif where the Taliban systematically killed thousands of civilians during the first three days following their military takeover of the city.
The victims were killed deliberately and arbitrarily in their homes, in the streets, where the bodies were left for several days, in contravention of Islamic doctrine that the dead must be buried within 24 hours. Most of those killed were civilians, including women, children and the elderly who were shot trying to flee the city.
A little reading on the subject seems to be called for.
BTW, the Taliban are ethnic Pashtuns and many are of Pakistani origin.
As for your comments about AQ, they are not even worth the effort to respond to.
Don't like 'em, eh? Must be Pakistanis then? Don't be so soft!
It seems you are unable to hold any form of intelligent debate on this subject. Is that because you don't want to expose just how ignorant of facts you really are?
Further dialogue with you is obviously a waste of time and effort. So don't bother responding.
Hey - I don't think you like ME either. There's DREADFUL then! I am screaming with grief and horror!
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