'EU aid funds PA incitement'

[P F Tinmore]

You've demonstrated less than zero knowledge of the Mandate. I have totally fucked you up. LOL

I have studied the Mandate and you, shithead, can only link to Wikipedia. Fucking loser.

Cool, so you can provide info on "Israel" or "Jewish state" being mentioned.

I have read the actual mandate. I used Wikipedia because they boil the same info down to basic points.

I've posted on this previously, however, you are mentally deficient and are unable to comprehend the matter.

You use wiki because you know nothing of the subject matter and think you can fake it by Googling your responses. Unfortunately for you, I have formally studied the Middle East in university. You are an intellectual dwarf.

Is that why you duck all the hard questions?

BTW, please link to you previous post. I have seen little more than name calling.

 

[jillian]

There was no mention about what incitement they were talking about. Also there was no mention as to what anti-Israel and anti-Semitic narratives they were talking about. This is very vague and meaningless. Where are the details?

It really boggles the mind how clueless you are.

 

[jillian]

Well they have borders.

Well, Egypt and the US have goons at their border, dumb dumb. The League of Nations has established all of Palestine as Israel's borders, dumb dumb.

The mandate formalized British rule in Palestine from 1917-1948. The boundaries of two new states were laid down within the territory of the Mandate, Palestine and Transjordan.

A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations under the terms of the treaty. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties.

The statement excluded "the disappearance or subordination of the Arabic population, language or customs in Palestine" or "the imposition of Jewish nationality upon the inhabitants of Palestine as a whole", and made it clear that in the eyes of the mandatory Power, the Jewish National Home was to be founded in Palestine and not that Palestine as a whole was to be converted into a Jewish National Home.

British Mandate of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Mandate never mentioned "Israel" or "Jewish state."

you're a liar and you've already been corrected on this.

 

[Marc39]

Cool, so you can provide info on "Israel" or "Jewish state" being mentioned.

I have read the actual mandate. I used Wikipedia because they boil the same info down to basic points.

I've posted on this previously, however, you are mentally deficient and are unable to comprehend the matter.

You use wiki because you know nothing of the subject matter and think you can fake it by Googling your responses. Unfortunately for you, I have formally studied the Middle East in university. You are an intellectual dwarf.

Is that why you duck all the hard questions?

BTW, please link to you previous post. I have seen little more than name calling.

I've posted on the matter of the Palestinian Mandate and Israeli statehood, but, you are mentally ill and are unable to assimmilate the information. Merely reading the Mandate is woefully inadequate. Thousands of pages have been written studying the Mandate. Thousands of pages have been written about the Balfour Declaration leading to the Mandate. You are simply uninformed on the subject matter and an internet chat room is not the proper venue for educating you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Well there are two ducks in a row.

Still no info on my request as usual.

 

[Marc39]

Well there are two ducks in a row.

Still no info on my request as usual.

Use the search engine for answers, dimwit. Sorry you are mentally retarded.

 

[jillian]

Well there are two ducks in a row.

Still no info on my request as usual.

I've already provided you with the information. You still lie.

Not interested any longer because you're still a liar.

So I'll just make fun of how pathetic you are.

 

[Marc39]

Well there are two ducks in a row.

Still no info on my request as usual.

I've already provided you with the information. You still lie.

Not interested any longer because you're still a liar.

So I'll just make fun of how pathetic you are.

He's either a liar or has a serious mental disorder. Or, both. Either way, it's sad he's wasting his time posting complete gibberish.

 

[al Haq]

You are the one peddling crap here. Digging up out of context ambiguous statements that are 50 years old is really pushing it.

Go ahead and try to polish those turds.

Israel withdrew from Gaza. So that puts a lie to whatever ambitions you say they have.

Israelis were not supposed to be building settlements in Gaza in the first place. The State of Israel defied international law with these settlements since 1948, encouraging its own civilian population to colonize foreign territory, providing the funding for construction, army protection, even offering free utilities and groceries to Jews willing to go squat on someone else‘s land.

And Israel did not “withdraw” from Gaza as it still controls the borders, airspace, seacoast, and all traffic in or out (by proxy on the Egyptian side via their U.S. lackey Mubarak) - meaning it‘s still de facto occupied under international law.

Gaza is just a smokescreen for what Israel really wants - the West Bank. There are plenty of up-to-the-minute quotes about it. Bibi was bragging less than 2 weeks ago that Israel will hold on to whatever it wanted in the West Bank:

We are planting here, we will stay here, we will build here, this place will be an inseparable part of the state of Israel for eternity"

The 8000 or so illegal settlers in Gaza were only a tiny fraction of what Israel has in the West Bank - more than half a million of these squatters, many of whom are extremists and members of terror groups (like Kach and Kahane.)

Sharon's objective was to offer the Gaza "disengagement" in order to strengthen Israel’s hold on its illegal settlements in the West Bank. Sharon's plan stipulated that Israel would fortify and expand the West Bank settlements, annex large swaths of Palestinian land into Israel; continue to hold control over Gaza by land, sea and air, and continue its policy of invasions and attacks in Gaza.

"I think it is important that they (Gaza settlers) know that what they did was not in vain... There are certainly great achievements, with the big (West Bank) settlement blocs that will remain in Israeli hands. They will remain territorially linked to Israel."

-Ariel Sharon

The Israeli Cabinet Resolution Regarding the Disengagement Plan:

Addendum A - Revised Disengagement Plan - Main Principles

Part 1. Background, third section:

“it is clear that in the West Bank, there are areas which will be part of the State of Israel, including major Israeli population centers, cities, towns and villages, security areas and other places of special interest to Israel.”

...

Part 3. Security Situation following the Relocation, first section

“The State of Israel will guard and monitor the external land perimeter of the Gaza Strip, will continue to maintain exclusive authority in Gaza air space, and will continue to exercise security activity in the sea off the coast of the Gaza Strip.”

Revised Disengagement Plan 6-June-2004

Gaza is simply a cage for 1.5 million Palestinian "children of a lesser God" who were shoved out of their homes to make way for Jewish immigrants. Once the Gaza population can be squeezed out into Egypt (or points beyond) Israel will be along to take it too.

The whole Gaza "withdrawal" plan was intended to preserve the occupation, not end it.

The point remains that Israel offered the west bank to Jordan and they didnt want it.

The point remains that Israel only offered the deal subject to two pre-conditions: that 1.) Jordan relinquish any claim to sovereignty over Jerusalem including East Jerusalem, and that 2.) all Palestinian refugees in the world must waive their legal rights to their property forever, and absolve Israel of any legal responsibility for compensation for their losses. These conditions were unreasonable and unacceptable to the victims, as well as to Jordan.

And King Hussein already ceded Jordan’s claim to the West Bank to the Palestinians.

Nor does Jordan want more Palestinians.

Jordan is a relatively poor country which has already shouldered a huge burden for Israel’s war crimes. It has accepted millions of Palestinian refugees and their descendants, giving them full citizenship, even to the point of dramatically altering the demographics of its own population (something that Zionists scream would be outrageously unfair to ask of the State of Israel.) In fact, Israel refuses to do even 1/100th of what outsiders have done to help the human victims of Israel‘s aggression and greed.

Yet as usual, Zionists cling to their bigoted ideology, trying to portray the Palestinian people as some kind of leper race that supposedly “no one wants” - a transparent ploy to reduce an entire people to subhuman status in order to advance the idea that Israel cannot be held morally or legally responsible for crimes against them. This was the exactly same excuse used by Nazis to justify their treatment of Jews - “they are vermin, no one wants them“…etc. etc.

As to the offer, Israel offered more than they ever have and the pedophile Arafat had no choice but to refuse because to accept would be to seal his own death warrant.

Source for the pedo claim?

As far as the offer to Arafat, it was indeed a great deal for Israel.

But it was a crap deal for Palestinians and you know it. Camp David was simply the same list of unilateral demands that Israel has always made - Palestinians must forfeit their internationally recognized Right of Return (per UN Resolution 194) and any claim to their property rights or compensation for their losses, and must give up any claim to East Jerusalem.

As a former Israeli Foreign Minister stated:

If I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well.

- Shlomo Ben-Ami, Former Israeli Foreign Minister, interview with NPR, Feb 20 2007

In return for signing away forever their rights to most of their own property, Palestinians would get a non-contiguous Swiss cheese of disjointed islands, each completely surrounded by Israeli settlers and soldiers. This “generous deal” would effectively keep the actual apparatus of the occupation in place - perpetuating full Israeli control of everything that actually mattered, while at the same time freeing Israel from the nuisance of being expected to uphold the legal responsibilities of an occupying power. Essentially, it would grant the Palestinians the "freedom" to slowly strangle to death locked in their outdoor prisons. Such a deal!

The Palestinians' only acceptable solution is a Palestinian state occupying the current borders of Israel with Jerusalem as the capital. And that aint gonna happen.

Actually, since 1993, the Palestinian Authority has officially recognized the State of Israel in the internationally accepted 1967 borders.

However, Israel has never recognized a Palestinian state.

Palestinians have already officially accepted Israeli sovereignty over West Jerusalem, even accepted West Jerusalem as the Israeli capital (a move not even recognized by 99% of other countries.) Palestinians want East Jerusalem, the predominantly Muslim part of the city, as their capital.

The problem is that Israel wants it all. The Israeli government has continued a policy of trying to separate East Jerusalem from the West Bank while continuing an ongoing campaign to drive out the remaining Muslim residents.

 

[Marc39]

Israelis were not supposed to be building settlements in Gaza in the first place. The State of Israel defied international law with these settlements since 1948, encouraging its own civilian population to colonize foreign territory, providing the funding for construction, army protection, even offering free utilities and groceries to Jews willing to go squat on someone else‘s land.

Now, you're pretending to know the law? Don't make us laugh, clown.

International law, in the form of the San Remo Resolution and Palestine Mandate permit Jewish settlement throughout the territory.

You know nothing. NOTHING!.

And Israel did not “withdraw” from Gaza as it still controls the borders, airspace, seacoast, and all traffic in or out (by proxy on the Egyptian side via their U.S. lackey Mubarak) - meaning it‘s still de facto occupied under international law.

Shitbrain, Gaza is not sovereign territory and, thus, cannot be occupied. Gaza has no air or maritime sovereignty.

Stop posing, asshole. You have no clue about occupations or international law.

Gazans, in fact, are in violation of international law in providing safe haven to terrorists in Gaza.

Open a law book, peckerhead.

Gaza is just a smokescreen for what Israel really wants - the West Bank. There are plenty of up-to-the-minute quotes about it. Bibi was bragging less than 2 weeks ago that Israel will hold on to whatever it wanted in the West Bank:

Is that why Israel ceded 50% of the West Bank to the Pallies with the Oslo Accords, dickbrain?

The 8000 or so illegal settlers in Gaza were only a tiny fraction of what Israel has in the West Bank - more than half a million of these squatters, many of whom are extremists and members of terror groups (like Kach and Kahane.)

International law permits Jewish settlers in Gaza, moron.

Sharon's objective was to offer the Gaza "disengagement" in order to strengthen Israel’s hold on its illegal settlements in the West Bank. Sharon's plan stipulated that Israel would fortify and expand the West Bank settlements, annex large swaths of Palestinian land into Israel; continue to hold control over Gaza by land, sea and air, and continue its policy of invasions and attacks in Gaza.

You just made this up.

Gaza is simply a cage for 1.5 million Palestinian "children of a lesser God" who were shoved out of their homes to make way for Jewish immigrants. Once the Gaza population can be squeezed out into Egypt (or points beyond) Israel will be along to take it too.

You just made this up., too.

The whole Gaza "withdrawal" plan was intended to preserve the occupation, not end it.

More fiction.

The point remains that Israel only offered the deal subject to two pre-conditions: that 1.) Jordan relinquish any claim to sovereignty over Jerusalem including East Jerusalem, and that 2.) all Palestinian refugees in the world must waive their legal rights to their property forever, and absolve Israel of any legal responsibility for compensation for their losses. These conditions were unreasonable and unacceptable to the victims, as well as to Jordan.

Pallies have no legal title to land nor do they have sovereignty. Thus, they have no property rights.

And King Hussein already ceded Jordan’s claim to the West Bank to the Palestinians.

After occupying the West Bank for 20 years, dummy. You stupid shit, the only reason Jordan "ceded" control of the West Bank is Jordan lost the territory in the '67 War.

LOL.

And, Jordan ceded the territory to Israel, not to the Pallies.

Jordan is a relatively poor country which has already shouldered a huge burden for Israel’s war crimes. It has accepted millions of Palestinian refugees and their descendants, giving them full citizenship, even to the point of dramatically altering the demographics of its own population (something that Zionists scream would be outrageously unfair to ask of the State of Israel.) In fact, Israel refuses to do even 1/100th of what outsiders have done to help the human victims of Israel‘s aggression and greed.

Jordan is stripping Pallies of their citizenship, dumb dumb. You really need to be better informed.

Yet as usual, Zionists cling to their bigoted ideology, trying to portray the Palestinian people as some kind of leper race that supposedly “no one wants” - a transparent ploy to reduce an entire people to subhuman status in order to advance the idea that Israel cannot be held morally or legally responsible for crimes against them. This was the exactly same excuse used by Nazis to justify their treatment of Jews - “they are vermin, no one wants them“…etc. etc.

Other Arabs view Pallies as ignorant nomads and excrement. Why should Israelis differ, dopey?

As far as the offer to Arafat, it was indeed a great deal for Israel.

Bill Clinton has said in his memoir that the Israeli proposal at Camp David was so "good" he was surprised Arafat was "foolish" to reject it.

You know nothing, moron.

However, Israel has never recognized a Palestinian state.

Because, there is no Palestinian state. D'oh.

Palestinians have already officially accepted Israeli sovereignty over West Jerusalem, even accepted West Jerusalem as the Israeli capital (a move not even recognized by 99% of other countries.) Palestinians want East Jerusalem, the predominantly Muslim part of the city, as their capital.

Jerusalem has no significance to Muslims. Muslims pray toward Mecca, not Jerusalem. Jerusalem is mentioned 700 times in the Old Testament and is mentioned zero times in the Quran.

D'oh.

The problem is that Israel wants it all. The Israeli government has continued a policy of trying to separate East Jerusalem from the West Bank while continuing an ongoing campaign to drive out the remaining Muslim residents.

The problem is...you are an ignorant moron not in command of the facts. I've just demolished you, pinhead.