Et tu, Rahm?

[taichiliberal]

Ralph Nader has continuously stated for the last 12 years that the line that separates the Democrats and the Republicans is very thin and blurry...and fast disappearing.

A perfect example is what Rahm Emanuel is doing to "prepare" Chicago for the up-coming G8 Summit protests....shades of the 1968 Dem convention fiasco. Check it out:

Occupy Chicago & Activists, Protest Rahm Emanuel's Anti-Protest Ordinance.


* Virtually every street protest in the downtown would be designated a "large parade" requiring $1 million liability insurance and for organizers to "agree to reimburse the city for any damage to the public way or to city property arising out of or caused by the parade";
* Large parade or not, organizers would be required to provide the city with "a description of any recording equipment, sound amplification equipment, banners, signs, or other attention-getting devices to be used in connection with the parade" at least a week in advance of the march;

* Every contingent in the march and the order in which they would appear would have to be registered at least a week in advance with the City;

* Demonstration organizers would be required to have one marshal for every 100 participants; and,

* Under a wholly new section of the municipal code (10-8-334), even gatherings on sidewalks, with no presence in the streets, would now be subject to demands that they get permits, giving the City extraordinary latitude to dictate what union and other pickets occur or get shut down by police action. Conceivably, each General Assembly meeting of Occupy Chicago would require a separate City permit, each with its $50 application fee, weeks' long application process, etc.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...nce?via=recent

 

[daveman]

This is a surprise?

Leftists don't care much for free speech.

 

[taichiliberal]

This is a surprise?

Leftists don't care much for free speech.

As opposed to rightest? You're missing the point.......what's going on here is NO different than the crap that was pulled by Bloomberg during the 2004 GOP convention in NYC.

What I'm saying is that Nader was right with regarding to political PARTIES, NOT individual ideology.

Not all liberals are progressive, not all conservatives are "new" conservatives.

At no, I'm not surprised.....just giving a sarcastic subject title.

Oh, and FYI.....it's one of your hated "leftist" political sites that's blowing the whistle loud on this....as it's been on NPR, WBAI, etc.

 

[daveman]

This is a surprise?

Leftists don't care much for free speech.

As opposed to rightest? You're missing the point.......what's going on here is NO different than the crap that was pulled by Bloomberg during the 2004 GOP convention in NYC.

What I'm saying is that Nader was right with regarding to political PARTIES, NOT individual ideology.

Not all liberals are progressive, not all conservatives are "new" conservatives.

At no, I'm not surprised.....just giving a sarcastic subject title.

Oh, and FYI.....it's one of your hated "leftist" political sites that's blowing the whistle loud on this....as it's been on NPR, WBAI, etc.

I don't hate leftists. I'm not ruled by emotion, unlike some people.

By the way, you might check into the history of free speech zones.

 

[taichiliberal]

This is a surprise?

Leftists don't care much for free speech.

As opposed to rightest? You're missing the point.......what's going on here is NO different than the crap that was pulled by Bloomberg during the 2004 GOP convention in NYC.

What I'm saying is that Nader was right with regarding to political PARTIES, NOT individual ideology.

Not all liberals are progressive, not all conservatives are "new" conservatives.

At no, I'm not surprised.....just giving a sarcastic subject title.

Oh, and FYI.....it's one of your hated "leftist" political sites that's blowing the whistle loud on this....as it's been on NPR, WBAI, etc.

I don't hate leftists. I'm not ruled by emotion, unlike some people.

Well then son, you deserve an Oscar for your performances on this board to the contrary of what you just stated here.
By the way, you might check into the history of free speech zones.

I already stated that the two parties are alike on many levels.....pointing out that the Dems did the same thing as the GOP in NYC just reinforces my point. It's been an on-going struggle in this country. Observe:

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/fr...f-Assembly-History-United-States-Timeline.htm

 

[daveman]

As opposed to rightest? You're missing the point.......what's going on here is NO different than the crap that was pulled by Bloomberg during the 2004 GOP convention in NYC.

What I'm saying is that Nader was right with regarding to political PARTIES, NOT individual ideology.

Not all liberals are progressive, not all conservatives are "new" conservatives.

At no, I'm not surprised.....just giving a sarcastic subject title.

Oh, and FYI.....it's one of your hated "leftist" political sites that's blowing the whistle loud on this....as it's been on NPR, WBAI, etc.

I don't hate leftists. I'm not ruled by emotion, unlike some people.

Well then son, you deserve an Oscar for your performances on this board to the contrary of what you just stated here.

Did you know your opinion isn't fact? True story!

By the way, you might check into the history of free speech zones.

I already stated that the two parties are alike on many levels.....pointing out that the Dems did the same thing as the GOP in NYC just reinforces my point. It's been an on-going struggle in this country. Observe:

History of Freedom of Assembly in the United States - Timeline History of Freedom of Assembly in the United States

And yet, oddly, I don't recall you criticizing Dems.

 

[old navy]

Bloomberg is also a leftie

 

[blastoff]

Rahm's a real rookie who should spend more time studying the history contained in the Democrat Machine Policy Manual, chapter 5...Civil Unrest.

The trick is to just lure the troublemakers into a controllable area, say Grant Park over near Balbo Ave. behind the Hilton Hotel. Then whenever you feel like it you close your forces in around them and let 'em knock a few heads. It works well and just once in a great while something goes wrong, like the killings during the Haymarket Riots, but, hey, accidents happen.

C'mon, Rham, make the Machine proud of you.

 

[taichiliberal]

I don't hate leftists. I'm not ruled by emotion, unlike some people.

Quote: Originally Posted by taichiliberal
Well then son, you deserve an Oscar for your performances on this board to the contrary of what you just stated here.
Did you know your opinion isn't fact? True story!

Not an opinion, just an observation over the last year. Did you know that the chronology of the threads that show your participation DO NOT have anything that would support your claim? True story! If you can produce a quote of yours or link a post to the contrary, then please do so.

By the way, you might check into the history of free speech zones.

I already stated that the two parties are alike on many levels.....pointing out that the Dems did the same thing as the GOP in NYC just reinforces my point. It's been an on-going struggle in this country. Observe:

History of Freedom of Assembly in the United States - Timeline History of Freedom of Assembly in the United States

And yet, oddly, I don't recall you criticizing Dems.

Well, all you have to do is just a quick search of threads that I started and you'll see at least two that do so. And since THIS thread contradicts what you state here, it would seem that your cognitive reasoning skills and retention abilities needs some sharpening.

 

[taichiliberal]

Bloomberg is also a leftie

Wrong. Bloomberg switch party affiliations awhile back.

 

[taichiliberal]

Rahm's a real rookie who should spend more time studying the history contained in the Democrat Machine Policy Manual, chapter 5...Civil Unrest.

The trick is to just lure the troublemakers into a controllable area, say Grant Park over near Balbo Ave. behind the Hilton Hotel. Then whenever you feel like it you close your forces in around them and let 'em knock a few heads. It works well and just once in a great while something goes wrong, like the killings during the Haymarket Riots, but, hey, accidents happen.

C'mon, Rham, make the Machine proud of you.

History shows the Dems AND the GOP are guilty of the same sins.....I was hoping that Rahm would know better and act accordingly....but like Obama, Rahm seems hell bent on parroting the status quo on many levels that will NOT endure the Dems to progressive and independent voters (IMHO, of course).

 

[Oddball]

Ralph Nader has continuously stated for the last 12 years that the line that separates the Democrats and the Republicans is very thin and blurry...and fast disappearing.

A perfect example is what Rahm Emanuel is doing to "prepare" Chicago for the up-coming G8 Summit protests....shades of the 1968 Dem convention fiasco. Check it out:

Occupy Chicago & Activists, Protest Rahm Emanuel's Anti-Protest Ordinance.


* Virtually every street protest in the downtown would be designated a "large parade" requiring $1 million liability insurance and for organizers to "agree to reimburse the city for any damage to the public way or to city property arising out of or caused by the parade";
* Large parade or not, organizers would be required to provide the city with "a description of any recording equipment, sound amplification equipment, banners, signs, or other attention-getting devices to be used in connection with the parade" at least a week in advance of the march;

* Every contingent in the march and the order in which they would appear would have to be registered at least a week in advance with the City;

* Demonstration organizers would be required to have one marshal for every 100 participants; and,

* Under a wholly new section of the municipal code (10-8-334), even gatherings on sidewalks, with no presence in the streets, would now be subject to demands that they get permits, giving the City extraordinary latitude to dictate what union and other pickets occur or get shut down by police action. Conceivably, each General Assembly meeting of Occupy Chicago would require a separate City permit, each with its $50 application fee, weeks' long application process, etc.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...nce?via=recent

Still haven't figured out that they'll be amongst the first ones rounded up, once their socialist worker's paradise takes over, have they?

Irony is so....well....ironic...

 

[editec]

The primary difference btween the Ds and Rs exists on SOCIAL issues.

When it comes to servicing the needs of their MASTERS they're in bed together.

 

[daveman]

Quote: Originally Posted by taichiliberal
Well then son, you deserve an Oscar for your performances on this board to the contrary of what you just stated here.
Did you know your opinion isn't fact? True story!

Not an opinion, just an observation over the last year. Did you know that the chronology of the threads that show your participation DO NOT have anything that would support your claim? True story! If you can produce a quote of yours or link a post to the contrary, then please do so.

I already stated that the two parties are alike on many levels.....pointing out that the Dems did the same thing as the GOP in NYC just reinforces my point. It's been an on-going struggle in this country. Observe:

History of Freedom of Assembly in the United States - Timeline History of Freedom of Assembly in the United States

And yet, oddly, I don't recall you criticizing Dems.

Well, all you have to do is just a quick search of threads that I started and you'll see at least two that do so. And since THIS thread contradicts what you state here, it would seem that your cognitive reasoning skills and retention abilities needs some sharpening.

It's not up to me to do your homework for you.

Oh, and did you know that repetition of the phrase "the chronology of _____" doesn't make you sound as smart as you think it does, and is nothing more than a way for you to avoid backing up your claims?

 

[taichiliberal]

The primary difference btween the Ds and Rs exists on SOCIAL issues.

When it comes to servicing the needs of their MASTERS they're in bed together.

Agreed.

 

[taichiliberal]

Quote: Originally Posted by taichiliberal
Well then son, you deserve an Oscar for your performances on this board to the contrary of what you just stated here.
Did you know your opinion isn't fact? True story!

Not an opinion, just an observation over the last year. Did you know that the chronology of the threads that show your participation DO NOT have anything that would support your claim? True story! If you can produce a quote of yours or link a post to the contrary, then please do so.
And yet, oddly, I don't recall you criticizing Dems.

Well, all you have to do is just a quick search of threads that I started and you'll see at least two that do so. And since THIS thread contradicts what you state here, it would seem that your cognitive reasoning skills and retention abilities needs some sharpening.

It's not up to me to do your homework for you.

If you're going to mimick my lines, try to make sense when doing it. YOU made the initial claim about not bearing any ill will towards liberals. I asked for proof, and YOU haven't produced any. Now you're demanding something from me that YOU are not willing or able to do yourself. To put it simply, you go first.

Oh, and did you know that repetition of the phrase "the chronology of _____" doesn't make you sound as smart as you think it does, and is nothing more than a way for you to avoid backing up your claims?

The chronology of the post is an accurate description of what has transpired during these discussions that DOES NOT support claims/assertion/statements that YOU and your like minded cohorts continuously make. Pointing out FACTS does not make one "sound smart"...but it does usually make YOU look the fool, Davey boy.

Look, if you agree with the opening post of this thread, then we've got nothing else to discuss.

 

[percysunshine]

Imagine if Ralph Nader and Ron Paul ran on the same ticket. Nader/Paul, Paul/Nader, whatever.

UFOs would probably fly out of my butt.

 

[daveman]

Well, all you have to do is just a quick search of threads that I started and you'll see at least two that do so. And since THIS thread contradicts what you state here, it would seem that your cognitive reasoning skills and retention abilities needs some sharpening.

It's not up to me to do your homework for you.

If you're going to mimick my lines, try to make sense when doing it. YOU made the initial claim about not bearing any ill will towards liberals. I asked for proof, and YOU haven't produced any. Now you're demanding something from me that YOU are not willing or able to do yourself. To put it simply, you go first.

Oh, and did you know that repetition of the phrase "the chronology of _____" doesn't make you sound as smart as you think it does, and is nothing more than a way for you to avoid backing up your claims?

The chronology of the post is an accurate description of what has transpired during these discussions that DOES NOT support claims/assertion/statements that YOU and your like minded cohorts continuously make. Pointing out FACTS does not make one "sound smart"...but it does usually make YOU look the fool, Davey boy.

How would you know? You don't post facts, you post opinion, then stamp your feet and pout if people don't buy your horseshit.

Look, if you agree with the opening post of this thread, then we've got nothing else to discuss.

I don't agree with your ridiculous contention that liberals support free speech.

 

[taichiliberal]

It's not up to me to do your homework for you.

If you're going to mimick my lines, try to make sense when doing it. YOU made the initial claim about not bearing any ill will towards liberals. I asked for proof, and YOU haven't produced any. Now you're demanding something from me that YOU are not willing or able to do yourself. To put it simply, you go first.

Oh, and did you know that repetition of the phrase "the chronology of _____" doesn't make you sound as smart as you think it does, and is nothing more than a way for you to avoid backing up your claims?

The chronology of the post is an accurate description of what has transpired during these discussions that DOES NOT support claims/assertion/statements that YOU and your like minded cohorts continuously make. Pointing out FACTS does not make one "sound smart"...but it does usually make YOU look the fool, Davey boy.

How would you know? You don't post facts, you post opinion, then stamp your feet and pout if people don't buy your horseshit.

Precisely what is "horseshit" about the opening post on this thread?

Look, if you agree with the opening post of this thread, then we've got nothing else to discuss.

I don't agree with your ridiculous contention that liberals support free speech.

Then you need to either get a new perscription for eye glasses or take a refresher course in reading comprehension, because THIS THREAD is about Rahm's actions in Chicago. If you're not willing to discuss that, then I'm done with you here and you can gleefully cast the last insult/lie free of the fear of response.

 

[daveman]

The chronology of the post is an accurate description of what has transpired during these discussions that DOES NOT support claims/assertion/statements that YOU and your like minded cohorts continuously make. Pointing out FACTS does not make one "sound smart"...but it does usually make YOU look the fool, Davey boy.

How would you know? You don't post facts, you post opinion, then stamp your feet and pout if people don't buy your horseshit.

Precisely what is "horseshit" about the opening post on this thread?

I really wish you'd learn how to properly nest quotes.

What's bullshit is the insinuation that Democrats don't abridge free speech regularly when it suits them.

Look, if you agree with the opening post of this thread, then we've got nothing else to discuss.

I don't agree with your ridiculous contention that liberals support free speech.

Then you need to either get a new perscription for eye glasses or take a refresher course in reading comprehension, because THIS THREAD is about Rahm's actions in Chicago. If you're not willing to discuss that, then I'm done with you here and you can gleefully cast the last insult/lie free of the fear of response.

Stamp your feet and pout some more. You don't get to dictate how people respond to your posts, no mater how much you'd like to limit free speech.