Eric Holder: Voter ID laws hurt minorities

[paulitician]

Today is the anniversary of Agent Brian Terry's murder...

On December 14, 2010, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was shot to death in the Arizona desert, while patrolling one of the region's most dangerous drug and human smuggling corridors. He was actually looking for Mexican bandits who typically prey on those crossing into this country illegally.

Agent Terry encountered a group of those bandits and was shot in the back with an AK-47. At least one round went through his protective vest and ripped through his pelvis. He soon succumbed to his wounds.

Terry was a former Marine and a police officer in Lincoln Park, Michigan. He had been a Border Patrol agent for three years. In his quest for a lifetime of service to his nation, he had plans to become a Secret Service agent.

Of course, weapons which were allowed to cross the border as part of Operation Fast and Furious were found at the murder scene.

So to Hell with Eric Holder. He should be wearing an orange jumpsuit.

More:
Today is the anniversary of Agent Brian Terry's murder - National drug cartel | Examiner.com

 

[Conservative]

lol, no shit, she got her id and can vote, but lets get outraged anyhow.

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

name them.

 

[Rozman]

No Eric, voter ID's prevent fraud. Of course Democrats have come to rely on votes from dead people, ineligible people and illegal aliens. This poses a problem for them.

Eric Holder: Voter ID laws hurt minorities - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

I heard something today on the radio...and when i say it here many will know
what show I was listening to.

In local union elections the union members need to produce
a valid picture ID to vote...

So if there are one,many,some who refuse to comply with the new regs..

 

[ba1614]

lol, no shit, she got her id and can vote, but lets get outraged anyhow.

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

Who gave up and didn't get one? You must be able to come up with someone who has been unable to attain one. Or is the only example of one, sympathetic old lady, who actually did get her ID?

 

[J.E.D]

lol, no shit, she got her id and can vote, but lets get outraged anyhow.

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

name them.

Never mind

 

[Conservative]

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

name them.

Never mind

If you can't prove it... don't SAY it.

 

[ba1614]

lol, no shit, she got her id and can vote, but lets get outraged anyhow.

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

name them.

It's easier to just pretend folks aren't getting them.

 

[J.E.D]

lol, no shit, she got her id and can vote, but lets get outraged anyhow.

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

Who gave up and didn't get one? You must be able to come up with someone who has been unable to attain one. Or is the only example of one, sympathetic old lady, who actually did get her ID?

Yeah, I've got my list right here. Obviously, she is not going to be the only person in the entire country to have a problem getting a voter ID even though she had the right paperwork. Are you completely incapable of drawing reasonable conclusions?

 

[ba1614]

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

Who gave up and didn't get one? You must be able to come up with someone who has been unable to attain one. Or is the only example of one, sympathetic old lady, who actually did get her ID?

Yeah, I've got my list right here. Obviously, she is not going to be the only person in the entire country to have a problem getting a voter ID even though she had the right paperwork. Are you completely incapable of drawing reasonable conclusions?

So you can't come up with a single example, even though if there was one it would be all over the liberal media on an endless loop.

 

[J.E.D]

name them.

Never mind

If you can't prove it... don't SAY it.

What? Because I don't keep a list of people who have trouble getting voter IDs, the problem doesn't exist? You strike me as the type of person who sticks your fingers in your ears and makes noises when someone says something that you don't want to hear or refuse to believe.

 

[paulitician]

Why hasn't Holder been arrested yet? That's a much more important question. Voter ID is a non-issue. The Democrats just want all their Illegals & Felons to be allowed to vote legally. That's all this is about. Make no mistake about it. Requiring a valid ID to vote is not 'racist' in any way. That's a lie being pushed by the usual suspects. Now,why hasn't Holder been arrested yet?

 

[chanel]

Dem mayor in CT wants to give illegals the right to vote. Kudos to this bonehead for his honesty at least.

New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote | NBC Connecticut

 

[J.E.D]

Dem mayor in CT wants to give illegals the right to vote. Kudos to this bonehead for his honesty at least.

New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote | NBC Connecticut

"Malloy told the New Haven Register, "it's not an idea that I'm particularly comfortable with."

The Democratic governor said he believes there are obligations and privileges that come with legal citizenship, but he's willing to "hear the mayor out" on his proposal."

 

[Conservative]

Not surprisingly, you're missing the point. SHE got her ID; but there are plenty of people out there who would have given up after that fiasco. She had all of the right paperwork. It shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

Who gave up and didn't get one? You must be able to come up with someone who has been unable to attain one. Or is the only example of one, sympathetic old lady, who actually did get her ID?

Yeah, I've got my list right here. Obviously, she is not going to be the only person in the entire country to have a problem getting a voter ID even though she had the right paperwork. Are you completely incapable of drawing reasonable conclusions?

Are you incapable of supporting your suppositions with actual facts? Seems so.

 

[paulitician]

Dem mayor in CT wants to give illegals the right to vote. Kudos to this bonehead for his honesty at least.

New Haven Asks State to Allow Non-Citizens to Vote | NBC Connecticut

Well they already do vote. The Democrats have been bussing them & Felons in to vote for many years. Along with dead people and fictitious people who never existed. And of course groups like ACORN helping people to vote several times each. This stuff has been going on for a very long time. Requiring a valid ID hurts the Democrats. Rigging elections would be so much harder for them. And they know it. That's why they keep pushing bullshit like claiming it's all 'racism.' It's just such a lie. And believe me,common sense thinking Americans know that. Requiring a valid ID to vote is common sense. And that's the truth.

 

[Jackson]

If you can provide enough information to go on welfare, register for school children, cash those entitlement checks, you can get a voter ID card. Why is it Democrats, the directors of voter fraud, don't want these cards issued?

 

[Oldstyle]

Voter ID laws will disfranchise (X) amount of voters and prevent (Y) amount of fraudulent votes. Neither number is zero and there is no way of knowing the exact amounts. To my way of thinking any voting rule that results in (X>0) is not worth the price of (Y=0).

Why?

How precious is your right to vote? When these laws are in place it will allow poll watchers to challenge the eligibility of people so much easier and invalidate their rights on BS grounds.

I'm not sure if all voting works this way around the country but where I am if a poll watcher challenges the eligibility of someone they can demand a provisional ballot...vote...and then have their eligibility determined by a canvassing board. Poll watchers can't stop people from voting for "BS grounds".

 

[chanel]

It's racist to suggest that people of color are too stupid to get IDs. No doubt about.

 

[Foxfyre]

Seriously people, don't you really want the authorities to be sure somebody is eligible to force you to subsidize their housing, buy their food, booze, cigarettes, and other stuff? Do you want just anybody to get whatever they want just by asking for it? Or is some form of verification and justification not in order?

Anybody who can sufficiently qualify for your taxpayer dollars, can qualify for a photo ID. And what if it does cost them the price of a pack of cigarettes to get it? Do you honestly want people voting who are not willing to do that little bit as a U.S. citizen?

The only people who will be disenfranchised by a requirement to prove their citizenship and eligibility to vote when they register, and then adequately identify themselves when they show up to vote would be people who should never be allowed to vote in the first place.

Let's go back to the system where you had to establish a place of residence where you receive mail, etc. for up to six weeks before you could register to vote. (Otherwise you had to go back to your old precinct to vote.) Then require people to go to an assigned voting place in their own precinct to vote where their name will show up on the register, they will show positive ID, and then they vote. Let's get rid of this vote anytime in any place routine that begs for fraudulent votes.

And make it clear that anybody caught voting twice or voting under any name but their own legal name will be severely prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

It has been said that those who vote don't hold the power but rather those who count the votes. But we need integrity in who votes as well as in who counts the votes cast. Without that, the people will no longer have a representative republic but will be perilously close to becoming a totalitarian state.

 

[frazzledgear]

No Eric, voter ID's prevent fraud. Of course Democrats have come to rely on votes from dead people, ineligible people and illegal aliens. This poses a problem for them.

Eric Holder: Voter ID laws hurt minorities - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

You way off base about voter fraud. Both Bush and Obama have conducted investigations into voter fraud and they turned up with nothing. VOTER FRAUD IS NOT AN ISSUE. Has their been cases of voter fraud? Of course, but it's so rare that it does not need to be controlled.

This Republican measure is completely political.

Oh wow -you mean the foxes are guarding the hen house and declared it "safe"? LOL Any clue about the political leanings of those who actually POPULATE our government agencies that would have been tasked with that investigation? The political appointees of government agencies come and go -but NOT those who are government employees. And they are largely of one political stripe.

None of your rights under the Bill of Rights is more important than another right and government does NOT get to decide some are less important than others. The value any given right has to YOU is one YOU make and is your sole right to decide. But you never get to make it for ANYONE ELSE. That means insisting we all pretend the right to vote is far more important than the right to own a gun for example -is bullshit. Some people in this country who have a right to vote NEVER vote -so it isn't too important to THEM. Likewise some people with a right to own a gun will choose to never exercise that right as well. The value of any right is made by the individual but ONLY for him/herself -they have no right to make it for OTHERS. (And why does the left pretend like voters don't have the civic duty to actually know the details of what they are voting ON in the first place? Dragging someone out to vote who decided the election didn't matter to him isn't doing anyone a favor -but those who think that is a person who can be manipulated and INSTRUCTED how to vote. As some volunteer and very liberal poll workers did with the elderly at a nearby nursing home last year -right down to instructing them who to vote for! Similar complaints were lodged in several Florida precincts in several elections about those volunteer and very liberal drivers offering to bus entire nursing homes to the polls, and then instructing them on who they were supposed to vote for. Nothing like manipulating and exploiting the vulnerable for political gain, is there? And hey, its being done for all the right reasons, right? One of those special "rights" leftwing extremists think they have seeing as how they are all just so......noble-y and all. lol)

Government has NO business pretending your right to vote is more important than your right to bear arms. 1. If it isn't infringing on ANYONE'S ability to exercise their 2nd amendment right including those identical minorities, to provide a valid ID in order to buy a gun - it sure as hell isn't infringing on anyone's right to vote to produce a valid ID either! PERIOD! One right is NOT more important than another.

2. If the process itself has been perverted and undermined and the doors thrown open to fraud and therefore the confidence of the AMERICAN citizens in their own system is being seriously eroded -then what is it leftwing extremists are REALLY "protecting" here with their bullshit?

Where are the studies showing a direct correlation between one's skin color, ethnic heritage, sexual orientation or gender with a legitimate inability to get a valid ID? There are none because it isn't true -this is a false RACIST claim by the left, based on nothing real but are clearly saying AGAIN that minorities are stupid, easily manipulated and dumb cows who, even they must produce valid ID to get state and federal entitlements - can't possibly know where that ID is when it comes to voting! There are no studies showing any correlation of ANY kind between AMERICAN CITIZEN minorities and their ability/inability to get any of the numerous forms of identification accepted as valid ID -because that correlation DOESN'T EXIST! The ones who have a hard time getting valid ID in this country -are those who have no right to even be here and therefore no right to vote either.

The left's opposition to protecting the integrity of our elections is NOT about "protecting" any US citizen with a right to vote -because it protects NO legitimate voter to leave their vote open to being undermined by the next guy with no right to vote. Those they PRETEND are less likely to get it due to poverty or whatever -are the same people who must get one in order to get food stamps, welfare and Medicaid -all US citizens too and every single one had to produce a valid ID in order to get it. How DID they manage THAT -but can't possibly be expected to manage producing that identical ID to vote? The entire leftist' ploy here has nothing to do with protecting LEGITIMATE voters in the first place -and everyone knows it is a hollow, false one that is NOT based in reality WHATSOEVER.

This is not only trying to make it easier for those who have no right to vote to do so in order to harm those who really do have a right to vote -and they want to do that because their real agenda is to undermine Americans' confidence in their own system -because the left believes THEY benefit by doing that. That is a WELL KNOWN political ploy of leftwing extremists from Marx to Lenin to Saul Alinksy to Obama buddy Van Jones -undermine the faith of the people in their own elections and they become easier to MANIPULATE for their OWN political gain. Easier to create chaos, social unrest and uncertainty. When that happens, the people get upset and concerned -but the best part as far as leftwing extremists are concerned is that people start demanding government DO something about it. Which throws open the door to government just taking new powers it never had and intends to never relinquish. 3. A people confident in their own system and their own power to affect their future will never beg government to just TAKE powers it doesn't have. People have to be carefully groomed, indoctrinated -and finally manipulated to BEG leftwing extremists to take it. Fortunately they can always counts on their ranks of useful idiots to start chanting about how minorities don't get IDs in this country so can't possibly be expected to have one and gnash their teeth about all the.....CONCERN they have about whether minorities aren't being DISCRIMINATED against when they try to exercise THIS right. Even though they don't give a flying fuck about whether it hampers the ability of minorities when it comes to exercising another right. PHONY FUCKERS -the lot of 'em. It isn't about protecting legitimate voters with a right to vote -it is all about protecting fraud and helping undermine the faith and confidence AMERICANS have in their own system.

Doubt that? Read ANY of the speeches, works, books, papers by leftwing extremists going back decades -it isn't exactly a well hidden, secret plot.