Eric Holder to try 9-11 master mind as criminals in New York as criminals.

[Wicked Jester]

Most of these guys wanted to plead guilty years ago. Now they will be given ACLU lawyers and the only reason this is going to civilian courts is to put the US and CIA on trial.

You are dead on right about that, Holder does not really want to try the terrorists he wants to try our own CIA.

Think for 5 seconds. Why would the Obama administration want to commit certain political suicide by deliberately trying to handle these cases in such a way that would somehow get them off??

He is committing political suicide by giving enemy COMBATANTS the same rights as american CITIZENS on american soil.

Those dirtbags are Al-queda. Al qaeda declared war on the US in 1998. They became combatants at that exact moment. The are not CRIMNINALS. They are COMBATANTS. They do not get the same rights as a common criminal.

This is one of the most ridiculous decisions ever made by a sitting president and his completely inept administration. It will be his downfall. As if we already didn't have enough reason to toss his sorry ass to the curb come '12.

 

[Political Junky]

Most of these guys wanted to plead guilty years ago. Now they will be given ACLU lawyers and the only reason this is going to civilian courts is to put the US and CIA on trial.

You are dead on right about that, Holder does not really want to try the terrorists he wants to try our own CIA.

Think for 5 seconds. Why would the Obama administration want to commit certain political suicide by deliberately trying to handle these cases in such a way that would somehow get them off??

You're assuming that these people can rationalize that and that they are not simply playing politics.

 

[Wicked Jester]

This is the audacity of the whole thing.

They are taking them to the city they attacked. They are being afforded the same rights as american citizens. Holder thinks they can actually sit a fair and impartial jury. That alone is a fucking joke. Now, all they have done is set up so many grounds for mis-trials and appeals that it's laughable. They have set up the grounds for these dirtbags eventually walking. It's ludicrous, and anybody who thinks otherwise is a fucking imbecile!

Christ, liberals are friggin' idiots!

 

[The T]

There's a HUGE difference between Civil Court (A Jury of your peers), and trying Combatant Terrorists in a time of WAR. Are some of you normally this shallow?

If this is going to be a jury of peers? Will the makeup be nothing but Muslims?

Some of you have brains and don't use them, do you?

What will the JURY makeup be?

Like this?

(Montage Courtesy of EIB )


A Jury of 9/11 Terrorist Peers?

 

[Wicked Jester]

there's a huge difference between civil court (a jury of your peers), and trying combatant terrorists in a time of war. Are some of you normally this shallow?

If this is going to be a jury of peers? Will the makeup be nothing but muslims?

some of you have brains and don't use them, do you?

What will the jury makeup be?

Like this?

(montage courtesy of eib )


a jury of 9/11 terrorist peers?

exactly!

 

[The T]

there's a huge difference between civil court (a jury of your peers), and trying combatant terrorists in a time of war. Are some of you normally this shallow?

If this is going to be a jury of peers? Will the makeup be nothing but muslims?

some of you have brains and don't use them, do you?

What will the jury makeup be?

Like this?

(montage courtesy of eib )


a jury of 9/11 terrorist peers?

exactly!

It should be a Military Tribunal period. These people were combatants. They weren't just plucked off the street minding their own business.

It's an absurd assertion.

 

[Wicked Jester]

there's a huge difference between civil court (a jury of your peers), and trying combatant terrorists in a time of war. Are some of you normally this shallow?

If this is going to be a jury of peers? Will the makeup be nothing but muslims?

some of you have brains and don't use them, do you?

What will the jury makeup be?

Like this?

(montage courtesy of eib )


a jury of 9/11 terrorist peers?

exactly!

It should be a Military Tribunal period. These people were combatants. They weren't just plucked off the street minding their own business.

It's an absurd assertion.

Nor are they AMERICAN citizens who commited armed BANK robbery, a federal crime, therefore they don't in anyway have the same legal rights as american citizens.

No, they're supreme leader declared WAR on the US in 1998. They are ENEMY COMBATANTS through and through, and should be treated as such.

What we are seeing, and not one person up here can deny it, is Obama is seeing this world as he wants it to be, and not how it truly is!

He's living his life, and conducting this presidency with his head buried firmly in his skinny, smelly, black ass!

It's beyond disgusting!

 

[The T]

exactly!

It should be a Military Tribunal period. These people were combatants. They weren't just plucked off the street minding their own business.

It's an absurd assertion.

Nor are they AMERICAN citizens who commited armed BANK robbery, a federal crime, therefore they don't in anyway have the same legal rights as american citizens.

No, they're supreme leader declared WAR on the US in 1998. They are ENEMY COMBATANTS through and through, and should be treated as such.

What we are seeing, and not one person up here can deny it, is Obama is seeing this world as he wants it to be, and not how it truly is!

He's living his life, and conducting this presidency with his head buried firmly in his skinny, smelly, black ass!

It's beyond disgusting!

Yeah...the Liberal Statists are picking up where Clinton left off. Treating those whom have declared war on us like street thugs is byond disgusting...it in my mind is treachery of the order of being treasonous.

In a way? This is their WAY of putting Bush on trial...THINK about it folks?

 

[Misty]

Why didn't Obama say that the 5 terrorists will definitely be found guilty?

This is what he said instead, “I am absolutely convinced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be subjected to the most exacting demands of justice."

holder wouldn't committ to a guilty verdict either.

He said he wouldn't bring the terrorists here if he wasn't sure of the outcome.

What the hell? Are they up to something or what!?

 

[The T]

Why didn't Obama say that the 5 terrorists will definitely be found guilty?

This is what he said instead, “I am absolutely convinced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be subjected to the most exacting demands of justice."

holder wouldn't committ to a guilty verdict either.

He said he wouldn't bring the terrorists here if he wasn't sure of the outcome.

What the hell? Are they up to something or what!?

They're ultimately out to Put Bush on trial...You watch in the "Discovery" phase of this so-called trial?

 

[Maple]

Why didn't Obama say that the 5 terrorists will definitely be found guilty?

This is what he said instead, “I am absolutely convinced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be subjected to the most exacting demands of justice."

holder wouldn't committ to a guilty verdict either.

He said he wouldn't bring the terrorists here if he wasn't sure of the outcome.

What the hell? Are they up to something or what!?

They're ultimately out to Put Bush on trial...You watch in the "Discovery" phase of this so-called trial?

Agreed, it's the Obama dog and pony show. But it is going to tank and tank badly with his polling. New York, won't be a blue state for long after this, they are already pissed off about this. They will go red in 2010 and 2012.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You are dead on right about that, Holder does not really want to try the terrorists he wants to try our own CIA.

Think for 5 seconds. Why would the Obama administration want to commit certain political suicide by deliberately trying to handle these cases in such a way that would somehow get them off??

He is committing political suicide by giving enemy COMBATANTS the same rights as american CITIZENS on american soil.

Those dirtbags are Al-queda. Al qaeda declared war on the US in 1998. They became combatants at that exact moment. The are not CRIMNINALS. They are COMBATANTS. They do not get the same rights as a common criminal.

This is one of the most ridiculous decisions ever made by a sitting president and his completely inept administration. It will be his downfall. As if we already didn't have enough reason to toss his sorry ass to the curb come '12.

So you agree with Maple that the administration is intentionally committing political suicide?

lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

exactly!

It should be a Military Tribunal period. These people were combatants. They weren't just plucked off the street minding their own business.

It's an absurd assertion.

Nor are they AMERICAN citizens who commited armed BANK robbery, a federal crime, therefore they don't in anyway have the same legal rights as american citizens.

No, they're supreme leader declared WAR on the US in 1998. They are ENEMY COMBATANTS through and through, and should be treated as such.

What we are seeing, and not one person up here can deny it, is Obama is seeing this world as he wants it to be, and not how it truly is!

He's living his life, and conducting this presidency with his head buried firmly in his skinny, smelly, black ass!

It's beyond disgusting!

Should they get a Nuremberg-style trial?

 

[Maple]

Think for 5 seconds. Why would the Obama administration want to commit certain political suicide by deliberately trying to handle these cases in such a way that would somehow get them off??

He is committing political suicide by giving enemy COMBATANTS the same rights as american CITIZENS on american soil.

Those dirtbags are Al-queda. Al qaeda declared war on the US in 1998. They became combatants at that exact moment. The are not CRIMNINALS. They are COMBATANTS. They do not get the same rights as a common criminal. He's the train wreck on it's way to happening.

This is one of the most ridiculous decisions ever made by a sitting president and his completely inept administration. It will be his downfall. As if we already didn't have enough reason to toss his sorry ass to the curb come '12.

So you agree with Maple that the administration is intentionally committing political suicide?

lol

I don't think they are INTENTIONALLY doing it, but they are doing it nonetheless.

Everyday, it's a brand new story on the Obama administration. I used to get bored with politics, but he moves so quickly in all the wrong directions that you have to pay attention EVERYDAY just to see what non-sense he is up to today. It's like he's a President on speed to self destruction, let's just hope he doesn't take the rest of us with him.

 

[Maple]

Most of these guys wanted to plead guilty years ago. Now they will be given ACLU lawyers and the only reason this is going to civilian courts is to put the US and CIA on trial.

You are dead on right about that, Holder does not really want to try the terrorists he wants to try our own CIA.

Think for 5 seconds. Why would the Obama administration want to commit certain political suicide by deliberately trying to handle these cases in such a way that would somehow get them off??

In reality, I think they are going to try the Bush administration, but I do not give them credit for being smart about it. This will backfire in a big way on them. Should one of these guys get off and walk, it's gonna be the end for Obama and his administration.

 

[The T]

It should be a Military Tribunal period. These people were combatants. They weren't just plucked off the street minding their own business.

It's an absurd assertion.

Nor are they AMERICAN citizens who commited armed BANK robbery, a federal crime, therefore they don't in anyway have the same legal rights as american citizens.

No, they're supreme leader declared WAR on the US in 1998. They are ENEMY COMBATANTS through and through, and should be treated as such.

What we are seeing, and not one person up here can deny it, is Obama is seeing this world as he wants it to be, and not how it truly is!

He's living his life, and conducting this presidency with his head buried firmly in his skinny, smelly, black ass!

It's beyond disgusting!

Should they get a Nuremberg-style trial?

They should get Nothing but what the Nazi Saboteurs got under FDR during WWII.

READ how WAR criminals should be treated...

READ SOME MORE

Why should WE do any less here? We should DEMAND that Tribunals be conveined. Why treat them like garden variety street thugs?

THIS is the defining line.

 

[The T]

You are dead on right about that, Holder does not really want to try the terrorists he wants to try our own CIA.

Think for 5 seconds. Why would the Obama administration want to commit certain political suicide by deliberately trying to handle these cases in such a way that would somehow get them off??

In reality, I think they are going to try the Bush administration, but I do not give them credit for being smart about it. This will backfire in a big way on them. Should one of these guys get off and walk, it's gonna be the end for Obama and his administration.

Exactly! These Liberal Statist Bastards are exacting revenge on Bush, while ignoring the History of it, and subjecting the security of this Republic to weakness and thus inviting another attack.


Didn't 9/11 and the results of the 9/11 Commission teach anything?

 

[Meister]

It will be the second Ground Zero in New York. I wonder who will be the judge, and does he have a family? I bet there are a few sleeper cells that are waking up, and wanting to know.

 

[Meister]

Why didn't Obama say that the 5 terrorists will definitely be found guilty?

This is what he said instead, “I am absolutely convinced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be subjected to the most exacting demands of justice."

holder wouldn't committ to a guilty verdict either.

He said he wouldn't bring the terrorists here if he wasn't sure of the outcome.

What the hell? Are they up to something or what!?

here's a little reading material for you.

President-elect Barack Obama has nominated a man to be his attorney general who was closely involved in former President Clinton's decision as he was leaving office to pardon 16 FALN members convicted on conspiracy and weapons charges. Though no one was ever charged specifically with the Fraunces Tavern bombing, the FALN proudly claimed responsibility for it amid more than 100 others. Its attacks killed six people and wounded scores of others. Tellingly, the bombings stopped after 10 FALN members were convicted of conspiracy and weapons offenses and sent to prison in 1981. They were among those Clinton chose to pardon.
Terrorists killed my dad -- latimes.com

 

[rightwinger]

You are dead on right about that, Holder does not really want to try the terrorists he wants to try our own CIA.

Think for 5 seconds. Why would the Obama administration want to commit certain political suicide by deliberately trying to handle these cases in such a way that would somehow get them off??

In reality, I think they are going to try the Bush administration, but I do not give them credit for being smart about it. This will backfire in a big way on them. Should one of these guys get off and walk, it's gonna be the end for Obama and his administration.

Do you really think evidence of torture will be introduced?

Why does the right wing have such a problem with basic human rights such as right to a trial...right to face your accusor.....right to a speedy trial

Right wingnuts have adopted Soviet practices of torture and imprisonment without charges or a trial

And they call Obama a commie