EPA proposes stricter standards for soot pollution

[Old Rocks]

Really? We continue to add more jobs in that sector here in Oregon.

Wind Turbine Technician Jobs - Oregon | Simply Hired

 

[IanC]

the EPA was great in the beginning. unfortunately like all bureaucracies it carries on past its effectiveness. making up figures for ever smaller amounts of things is counter productive. getting rid of the majority of pollution is relatively cheap and effective. getting rid of ALL pollution is very expensive and brings few extra benefits while often invoking unintended consequences. Cali's diesel soot laws were good enough, the extra prohibition is costly both in dollars and jobs. and it is based on suspect science.

 

[Old Rocks]

Whenever an industry is threatoned with regulations that increase control on a pollution that is a known medical hazard, it uses the very words you just did, Ian. From asbestos to cigarette smoke.

 

[bripat9643]

Whenever an industry is threatoned with regulations that increase control on a pollution that is a known medical hazard, it uses the very words you just did, Ian. From asbestos to cigarette smoke.

Those words are called "common sense." Whenever environmental wackos can't justify their outraeous assaults on industry, they accuse anyone arguing against them of sinister ulteriour motives. And for your information, neither of the industries you mentioned claimed their products weren't detrimental to human health. They also aren't environmental pollutants. EPA regulations don't apply.

Can you name one person who has died or even gotten sick as a result of soot spewed by diesel truck?.

 

[Old Rocks]

Whenever an industry is threatoned with regulations that increase control on a pollution that is a known medical hazard, it uses the very words you just did, Ian. From asbestos to cigarette smoke.

Those words are called "common sense." Whenever environmental wackos can't justify their outraeous assaults on industry, they accuse anyone arguing against them of sinister ulteriour motives. And for your information, neither of the industries you mentioned claimed their products weren't detrimental to human health. They also aren't environmental pollutants. EPA regulations don't apply.

Can you name one person who has died or even gotten sick as a result of soot spewed by diesel truck?.

Ah Pattycake, you continue to be such a dumb fuck.

NJ DEP - Diesel Idling Information on www.StopTheSoot.org

Does diesel exhaust affect a person's health?

Exhaust from diesel engines can be extremely harmful to a person's health. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) believes that diesel exhaust poses one of the greatest public health risks of all air pollutants. In New Jersey, nearly 400 premature deaths, 16,000 asthma attacks and 1,800 emergency-room visits could be prevented each year by reducing diesel soot emissions by 20 percent (1).

 

[Old Rocks]

The Pediatric/Adult Asthma Coalition of New Jersey

 

[Old Rocks]

Whenever an industry is threatoned with regulations that increase control on a pollution that is a known medical hazard, it uses the very words you just did, Ian. From asbestos to cigarette smoke.

Those words are called "common sense." Whenever environmental wackos can't justify their outraeous assaults on industry, they accuse anyone arguing against them of sinister ulteriour motives. And for your information, neither of the industries you mentioned claimed their products weren't detrimental to human health. They also aren't environmental pollutants. EPA regulations don't apply.

Can you name one person who has died or even gotten sick as a result of soot spewed by diesel truck?.

Pattycake, you and common sense have yet to be introduced

 

[skookerasbil]

Really? We continue to add more jobs in that sector here in Oregon.

Wind Turbine Technician Jobs - Oregon | Simply Hired

Yeah Ray.......but thats like saying these 4 are finalists in the local "hot body" contest..............

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh..............and "permanent" green jobs at 6.7 million dollars/per job = gay



Solyndra Not the Only Questionable Obama Loan to 'Green' Energy - Economic Intelligence (usnews.com)


Too Ray.......this recently completed study by Argonne National Labs blows wind power's efficiency to shit!!! In fact........its nothing less than a joke.

http://www.realclearenergy.org/charticles/2012/06/18/wind_reduces_carbon_emissions_but_with_deminishing_returns_106595.html

 

[skookerasbil]

Oil production in the United States is kicking ass............highest in over 12 years................


RealClearEnergy - US Oil Production Highest in 14 Years


As I always say on here................."LOSING!!!!""

 

[bripat9643]

Whenever an industry is threatoned with regulations that increase control on a pollution that is a known medical hazard, it uses the very words you just did, Ian. From asbestos to cigarette smoke.

Those words are called "common sense." Whenever environmental wackos can't justify their outraeous assaults on industry, they accuse anyone arguing against them of sinister ulteriour motives. And for your information, neither of the industries you mentioned claimed their products weren't detrimental to human health. They also aren't environmental pollutants. EPA regulations don't apply.

Can you name one person who has died or even gotten sick as a result of soot spewed by diesel truck?.

Ah Pattycake, you continue to be such a dumb fuck.

NJ DEP - Diesel Idling Information on www.StopTheSoot.org

Does diesel exhaust affect a person's health?

Exhaust from diesel engines can be extremely harmful to a person's health. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) believes that diesel exhaust poses one of the greatest public health risks of all air pollutants. In New Jersey, nearly 400 premature deaths, 16,000 asthma attacks and 1,800 emergency-room visits could be prevented each year by reducing diesel soot emissions by 20 percent (1).

What the EPA believes isn't at issue here. I asked if you could name a single person who has been harmed by diesel exhaust in the environment. EPA extrapolations are pure bullshit. Show us a diagnosis that says "harmed by diesel exhaust."

So far, you're batting 0.000.

 

[skookerasbil]

New study on most recent EPA k00k legislation................another ball kick to taxpayers and small business.


All Pain and No Gain | Competitive Enterprise Institute

 

[bripat9643]

The Pediatric/Adult Asthma Coalition of New Jersey

Thanks for proving that you're a gullible tool. The EPA has paid the American Lung Association 20 million dollars to say whatever the EPA wants it to say.

 

[Flopper]

I wonder, if we export all our production to Mexico, will all these wonderful, productive young criminals move back there? Although, I doubt Mexico has the same ridiculous production-killing regulations. And soot, etc, does not respect national borders any more than the human detritus that wanders over our borders.

No, Mexico doesn't have all those silly regulations. The United Nations named Mexico City "the most polluted city on the planet." At the time pollution was thought to cause 1,000 deaths and 35,000 hospitalizations per year. They have made some progress but air pollution is still a big problem.

 

[skookerasbil]

The Pediatric/Adult Asthma Coalition of New Jersey

Thanks for proving that you're a gullible tool. The EPA has paid the American Lung Association 20 million dollars to say what the EPA wants it to say.

Bripat man.....the government could come in and ransack and rob their houses.........all of these nuts. They'd still blindly trust their government. These cheesedicks think regulations are a zero-sum game. Its fascinating.

 

[bripat9643]

Pattycake, you and common sense have yet to be introduced

"Common sense" is an alien concept to environmental wacko EPA tools like you.

 

[bripat9643]

I wonder, if we export all our production to Mexico, will all these wonderful, productive young criminals move back there? Although, I doubt Mexico has the same ridiculous production-killing regulations. And soot, etc, does not respect national borders any more than the human detritus that wanders over our borders.

No, Mexico doesn't have all those silly regulations. The United Nations named Mexico City "the most polluted city on the planet." At the time pollution was thought to cause 1,000 deaths and 35,000 hospitalizations per year. They have made some progress but air pollution is still a big problem.

Mexico City has a pollution problem mostly because it's entirely surrounded by mountains, you stupid turd.

 

[bripat9643]

The Pediatric/Adult Asthma Coalition of New Jersey

Thanks for proving that you're a gullible tool. The EPA has paid the American Lung Association 20 million dollars to say what the EPA wants it to say.

Bripat man.....the government could come in and ransack and rob their houses.........all of these nuts. They'd still blindly trust their government. These cheesedicks think regulations are a zero-sum game. Its fascinating.

When their utility bills triple these same morons will scream that those evil utility companies are manipulating the price of energy.

 

[skookerasbil]

Thanks for proving that you're a gullible tool. The EPA has paid the American Lung Association 20 million dollars to say what the EPA wants it to say.

Bripat man.....the government could come in and ransack and rob their houses.........all of these nuts. They'd still blindly trust their government. These cheesedicks think regulations are a zero-sum game. Its fascinating.

When their utility bills triple these same morons will scream that those evil utility companies are manipulating the price of energy.

No worries Bripat.........after November, the EPA gets a straight kick to the balls when a growth oriented economy makes a big comeback.

 

[Flopper]

Those words are called "common sense." Whenever environmental wackos can't justify their outraeous assaults on industry, they accuse anyone arguing against them of sinister ulteriour motives. And for your information, neither of the industries you mentioned claimed their products weren't detrimental to human health. They also aren't environmental pollutants. EPA regulations don't apply.

Can you name one person who has died or even gotten sick as a result of soot spewed by diesel truck?.

Ah Pattycake, you continue to be such a dumb fuck.

NJ DEP - Diesel Idling Information on www.StopTheSoot.org

Does diesel exhaust affect a person's health?

Exhaust from diesel engines can be extremely harmful to a person's health. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) believes that diesel exhaust poses one of the greatest public health risks of all air pollutants. In New Jersey, nearly 400 premature deaths, 16,000 asthma attacks and 1,800 emergency-room visits could be prevented each year by reducing diesel soot emissions by 20 percent (1).

What the EPA believes isn't at issue here. I asked if you could name a single person who has been harmed by diesel exhaust in the environment. EPA extrapolations are pure bullshit. Show us a diagnosis that says "harmed by diesel exhaust."

So far, you're batting 0.000.

Just ask anyone with servere asthma. Diesel exhaust fumes on polluted streets have a measurable effect on people with asthma. In a ventilated tunnel, if traffic stops for more than a few minutes, I'm fighting to get my breath and sucking away on a rescue inhaler.

NCI Cancer Bulletin for March 6, 2012 - National Cancer Institute
Diesel exhaust is cancer-causing: UN health body - Yahoo! News
Diesel Exhaust Fumes Affect People With Asthma, Finds Study On London's Oxford Street