EPA poised to formally repeal Clean Power Plan in major blow to Obama’s climate legacy

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, I'm sure that's the conclusion you reached after your extensive research.

Experience with liberal schemes.

Beats having an actual education, right?

Wrong, liberal schemes are much worse than having an education.

If Americans were better educated, there'd be many fewer liberal politicians and fewer liberal schemes.

Right.... yet, the more educated a person, the more likely he is liberal. Odd that reality does not match up with the thoughts flowing from your colon. Wait, no it isnt...

Yea, they are so educated they don't know how to vote in midterms.

GOP got 52% of votes in 2014 midterm House elections. Not a big difference.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Experience with liberal schemes.

Beats having an actual education, right?

Wrong, liberal schemes are much worse than having an education.

If Americans were better educated, there'd be many fewer liberal politicians and fewer liberal schemes.

Right.... yet, the more educated a person, the more likely he is liberal. Odd that reality does not match up with the thoughts flowing from your colon. Wait, no it isnt...

Yea, they are so educated they don't know how to vote in midterms.

GOP got 52% of votes in 2014 midterm House elections. Not a big difference.

The biggest win by republicans in decades and you say not a big difference, you really do show your age on here.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

From the soot and smog reductions alone, for every dollar invested through the Clean Power Plan—American families will see up to $7 in health benefits.

I heard it was going to save every family $2500 a year on their premiums.

In other words, it was supposed to do a lot more than just limit carbon emissions.

I agree.
It was going to increase the cost of electricity, make our power grid less stable and weaken our economy.

Yes, I'm sure that's the conclusion you reached after your extensive research.

Experience with liberal schemes.

Beats having an actual education, right?

Wrong, liberal schemes are much worse than having an education.

If Americans were better educated, there'd be many fewer liberal politicians and fewer liberal schemes.

Right.... yet, the more educated a person, the more likely he is liberal. Odd that reality does not match up with the thoughts flowing from your colon. Wait, no it isnt...

It's funny that liberals were Grubered but conservatives were not.
It must be your education, eh comrade?

 

[Billy_Bob]

OP>>>>>>>A draft proposal of the EPA’s conclusions, leaked to news outlets over the past 24 hours, argues that the plan — which would limit carbon emissions from power plants and, in the process, drastically reduce the amount of coal-generated electricity in the U.S. — goes beyond the bounds of federal law and unnecessarily hikes energy prices for consumers.


MORON.

From the actual fact sheet for the act:

"

• From the soot and smog reductions alone, for every dollar invested through the Clean Power Plan—American families will see up to $7 in health benefits.
  
• The Clean Power Plan will reduce pollutants that contribute to the soot and smog that make people sick by over 25 percent in 2030.
  • 54,000 to 56,000 tons of PM2.5
  • 424,000 to 471,000 tons of sulfur dioxide
  • 407,000 to 428,000 tons of nitrogen dioxide

In other words, it was supposed to do a lot more than just limit carbon emissions. so settle down.

That's EPA bullshit. The clean power plan would cost American families hundreds of dollars every year, if not thousands.

Name one person who a doctor diagnosed as "sick from air pollution."

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

BWhaaaaaaaaaa

More bull shit from the Fort fun Troll...

When you cant disprove what has been stated you take aim at the person.. Standard lib troll.. Speaking of a lack of education, 98% of operating coal fired plants have 99.998% clean emissions from their stacks TODAY! the Obama Scam was an attempt to subvert working technologies in favor of unreliable and high priced democrap money stealing scams. CAGW is just one of them they use to justify this kind of crap..

An educated person can see the scam for what it is...

 

[bripat9643]

From the soot and smog reductions alone, for every dollar invested through the Clean Power Plan—American families will see up to $7 in health benefits.

I heard it was going to save every family $2500 a year on their premiums.

In other words, it was supposed to do a lot more than just limit carbon emissions.

I agree.
It was going to increase the cost of electricity, make our power grid less stable and weaken our economy.

Yes, I'm sure that's the conclusion you reached after your extensive research.

Experience with liberal schemes.

Beats having an actual education, right?

Wrong, liberal schemes are much worse than having an education.

If Americans were better educated, there'd be many fewer liberal politicians and fewer liberal schemes.

Right.... yet, the more educated a person, the more likely he is liberal. Odd that reality does not match up with the thoughts flowing from your colon. Wait, no it isnt...

The longer you spend being brainwashed, the more likely it is to stick.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Beats having an actual education, right?

Wrong, liberal schemes are much worse than having an education.

If Americans were better educated, there'd be many fewer liberal politicians and fewer liberal schemes.

Right.... yet, the more educated a person, the more likely he is liberal. Odd that reality does not match up with the thoughts flowing from your colon. Wait, no it isnt...

Yea, they are so educated they don't know how to vote in midterms.

GOP got 52% of votes in 2014 midterm House elections. Not a big difference.

The biggest win by republicans in decades and you say not a big difference, you really do show your age on here.

But they still only got 52% of the votes, despite winning 57% of the seats. We know this is because of how the districts have been drawn. These are simple facts, not sure why you are getting huffy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

From the actual fact sheet for the act:

"

• From the soot and smog reductions alone, for every dollar invested through the Clean Power Plan—American families will see up to $7 in health benefits.
  
• The Clean Power Plan will reduce pollutants that contribute to the soot and smog that make people sick by over 25 percent in 2030.
  • 54,000 to 56,000 tons of PM2.5
  • 424,000 to 471,000 tons of sulfur dioxide
  • 407,000 to 428,000 tons of nitrogen dioxide

In other words, it was supposed to do a lot more than just limit carbon emissions. so settle down.

That's EPA bullshit. The clean power plan would cost American families hundreds of dollars every year, if not thousands.

Name one person who a doctor diagnosed as "sick from air pollution."

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

BWhaaaaaaaaaa

More bull shit from the Fort fun Troll...

When you cant disprove what has been stated you take aim at the person.. Standard lib troll.. Speaking of a lack of education, 98% of operating coal fired plants have 99.998% clean emissions from their stacks TODAY! the Obama Scam was an attempt to subvert working technologies in favor of unreliable and high priced democrap money stealing scams. CAGW is just one of them they use to justify this kind of crap..

An educated person can see the scam for what it is...

Yes, all of the major medical societies are wrong, and you two geniuses have outsmarted them. Okay.

 

[bripat9643]

OP>>>>>>>A draft proposal of the EPA’s conclusions, leaked to news outlets over the past 24 hours, argues that the plan — which would limit carbon emissions from power plants and, in the process, drastically reduce the amount of coal-generated electricity in the U.S. — goes beyond the bounds of federal law and unnecessarily hikes energy prices for consumers.


MORON.

From the actual fact sheet for the act:

"

• From the soot and smog reductions alone, for every dollar invested through the Clean Power Plan—American families will see up to $7 in health benefits.
  
• The Clean Power Plan will reduce pollutants that contribute to the soot and smog that make people sick by over 25 percent in 2030.
  • 54,000 to 56,000 tons of PM2.5
  • 424,000 to 471,000 tons of sulfur dioxide
  • 407,000 to 428,000 tons of nitrogen dioxide

In other words, it was supposed to do a lot more than just limit carbon emissions. so settle down.

That's EPA bullshit. The clean power plan would cost American families hundreds of dollars every year, if not thousands.

Name one person who a doctor diagnosed as "sick from air pollution."

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

 

[bripat9643]

That's EPA bullshit. The clean power plan would cost American families hundreds of dollars every year, if not thousands.

Name one person who a doctor diagnosed as "sick from air pollution."

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

BWhaaaaaaaaaa

More bull shit from the Fort fun Troll...

When you cant disprove what has been stated you take aim at the person.. Standard lib troll.. Speaking of a lack of education, 98% of operating coal fired plants have 99.998% clean emissions from their stacks TODAY! the Obama Scam was an attempt to subvert working technologies in favor of unreliable and high priced democrap money stealing scams. CAGW is just one of them they use to justify this kind of crap..

An educated person can see the scam for what it is...

Yes, all of the major medical societies are wrong, and you two geniuses have outsmarted them. Okay.

All the major medical societies? Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

From the actual fact sheet for the act:

"

• From the soot and smog reductions alone, for every dollar invested through the Clean Power Plan—American families will see up to $7 in health benefits.
  
• The Clean Power Plan will reduce pollutants that contribute to the soot and smog that make people sick by over 25 percent in 2030.
  • 54,000 to 56,000 tons of PM2.5
  • 424,000 to 471,000 tons of sulfur dioxide
  • 407,000 to 428,000 tons of nitrogen dioxide

In other words, it was supposed to do a lot more than just limit carbon emissions. so settle down.

That's EPA bullshit. The clean power plan would cost American families hundreds of dollars every year, if not thousands.

Name one person who a doctor diagnosed as "sick from air pollution."

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

BWhaaaaaaaaaa

More bull shit from the Fort fun Troll...

When you cant disprove what has been stated you take aim at the person.. Standard lib troll.. Speaking of a lack of education, 98% of operating coal fired plants have 99.998% clean emissions from their stacks TODAY! the Obama Scam was an attempt to subvert working technologies in favor of unreliable and high priced democrap money stealing scams. CAGW is just one of them they use to justify this kind of crap..

An educated person can see the scam for what it is...

Yes, all of the major medical societies are wrong, and you two geniuses have outsmarted them. Okay.

All the major medical societies? Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?

Money will fix everything... only so long as it comes out of someone else's pocket and is put in democrap pockets... Standard socialist lib crap and lies..

 

[bripat9643]

That's EPA bullshit. The clean power plan would cost American families hundreds of dollars every year, if not thousands.

Name one person who a doctor diagnosed as "sick from air pollution."

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Post an example of someone being diagnosed as getting poisoned from the emissions from a coal fired power plant.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why? It's not my job to introduce you to reality . Look it up yourself.

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

And yet you can not.... education lacking there chimp?

You made the claim... support it! This is going to be just like every other argument... scream like a little bitch and run away..

 

[bripat9643]

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

Then do it, turd. Otherwise just admit that you're full of shit.

Yes, you are asking us to take your word for it. Do you think we're going to do your work for you? That's an old trick of losers who don't have a clue.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I have looked it up. There are no such cases. That's reality.

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

No you can't you do the same stuff all the time, you make a claim and provide no credible links to back it up

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

And yet you can not.... education lacking there chimp?

You made the claim... support it! This is going to be just like every other argument... scream like a little bitch and run away..

No, I will not be spoonfeedimg you any links. Again, you dont have to take my word for it. Your cackling and dancing and prancing has no bearing on the facts.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You looked up nothing. You are making things up, and your standard is absurd anyway. You have no idea what you are talking about, and doctors will continue to follow the recommendations of medical societies over blog-educated nonexperts like you.

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

No you can't you do the same stuff all the time, you make a claim and provide no credible links to back it up

Somerimes I provide links, sometimes I don't .

For instance, when a link is needed to prove a quote, or to relay an obscure fact or idea, I will provide a link.

When being ankle-nipped by people who are not honestly seeking the truth (else , in this case, they would have easily found the links themselves, if they cared to know the truth)... No , I do not provide links.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Then it should be easy for you to produce an example. We're all waiting.

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

And yet you can not.... education lacking there chimp?

You made the claim... support it! This is going to be just like every other argument... scream like a little bitch and run away..

No, I will not be spoonfeedimg you any links. Again, you dont have to take my word for it. Your cackling and dancing and prancing has no bearing on the facts.

Thanks for proving my point...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

an example of what? of pollution making people ill? Like I said, i am not your mommy. Look it up yourself. You can start with the website of literally any major medical society on the planet.

"Aside from the EPA, who says anyone will be saved by this vast expenditure of money?"

all of the major medical societies. Again, educate yourself, it's not my job to raise manbabies.

ROFL! You can't cite a single article supporting your idiotic and transparent lies.

Of course I can. Any trained chimp with google can find this on the website of any major medical society. What kind of lazy idiot depends on strangers on message boards to educate him? I'm not asking you to take my word for it.

And yet you can not.... education lacking there chimp?

You made the claim... support it! This is going to be just like every other argument... scream like a little bitch and run away..

No, I will not be spoonfeedimg you any links. Again, you dont have to take my word for it. Your cackling and dancing and prancing has no bearing on the facts.

Thanks for proving my point...
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Right, I'm a troll because I say the major medical societies warn of pollution causing illness. gee, i wonder if anyone has studied it? I wonder if anyone has compiled this science and presented suggestions for guidelines? Nahhh, must just be a liberal conspiracy, spread by their paid trolls like me... right?


You go ahead and do your little dance. Of the two of us, I don't think it's me that you're making to look bad.