EPA 'Cow Tax' Could Charge $175 per Dairy Cow to Curb Greenhouse Gases

[Zoom-boing]

From the article: Kate Galbraith, correspondent for The New York Times, noted on the Times’ “Green Inc.” blog that such a “proposal is far from being enacted” and that the “hysteria may be premature.

Hysteria MAY be premature. . . . may not be premature too. This is the same government that just ok $700 billion dollars of our money for Wall Street to clean up the mess . . . no stipulations on spending, no questions asked, no answers given. Cow tax . . if they can think it up, they can get it passed.

 

[WillowTree]

WTF is wrong with our government?

EPA 'Cow Tax' Could Charge $175 per Dairy Cow to Curb Greenhouse Gases

Oh come on! The liberals are in charge.. get ready!

 

[AllieBaba]

I only laugh at people who complain about the costs of food now, especially the ones that don't want to control the human population because they never seem to realize the connection even when it's right in their faces. Of course they have no space to grow more food, we are LIVING on that space.

No we aren't, you idiot. We have consigned that space to protected wetland status, given it to "the people" in the form of national and state parks. We have consigned that space to "rest" in the form of subsidies which encourage farmers not to use all of their land for production, and we have further limited their options by passing restrictive laws which will not allow them to divide their own land into smaller parcels and sell them.

For the sake of city dwellers who like to come to the country on weekends and who find it annoying that farm and ranch owners would dare subdivide their land, use their own ponds to water cattle, we have limited our food production.

People don't go hungry because we can't make enough food. People go hungry because idiots like you think they have the right to control food production and land use.

 

[KittenKoder]

No we aren't, you idiot. We have consigned that space to protected wetland status, given it to "the people" in the form of national and state parks. We have consigned that space to "rest" in the form of subsidies which encourage farmers not to use all of their land for production, and we have further limited their options by passing restrictive laws which will not allow them to divide their own land into smaller parcels and sell them.

For the sake of city dwellers who like to come to the country on weekends and who find it annoying that farm and ranch owners would dare subdivide their land, use their own ponds to water cattle, we have limited our food production.

People don't go hungry because we can't make enough food. People go hungry because idiots like you think they have the right to control food production and land use.

Great, you are one of those idiots that thinks we don't need nature at all. Extremes at either side are wrong.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

WTF is wrong with our government?

EPA 'Cow Tax' Could Charge $175 per Dairy Cow to Curb Greenhouse Gases

No one is gonna be able to buy milk or dairy products if this passes.

 

[Old Rocks]

WTF is wrong with our government?

EPA 'Cow Tax' Could Charge $175 per Dairy Cow to Curb Greenhouse Gases

Really, really stupid strawman.

 

[Old Rocks]

From the article: Kate Galbraith, correspondent for The New York Times, noted on the Times’ “Green Inc.” blog that such a “proposal is far from being enacted” and that the “hysteria may be premature.

Hysteria MAY be premature. . . . may not be premature too. This is the same government that just ok $700 billion dollars of our money for Wall Street to clean up the mess . . . no stipulations on spending, no questions asked, no answers given. Cow tax . . if they can think it up, they can get it passed.

You mean our good conservative Bush? But he is out of the picture come the 20th. So there may be some stipulations that go with recieving money after that.

 

[Old Rocks]

Just remember the cost of milk the next time you think we should take more land out of production, and further encumber our farmers and ranchers with idiotic expenses like fencing off all their creek beds....

A couple of family reunions ago, there was quite a debate on that subject. Interestingly, the fellow that spoke most in favor of fencing the creeks just happened to be the one that owned a few sections on which he raised cattle in Eastern Oregon.

 

[Old Rocks]

No we aren't, you idiot. We have consigned that space to protected wetland status, given it to "the people" in the form of national and state parks. We have consigned that space to "rest" in the form of subsidies which encourage farmers not to use all of their land for production, and we have further limited their options by passing restrictive laws which will not allow them to divide their own land into smaller parcels and sell them.

For the sake of city dwellers who like to come to the country on weekends and who find it annoying that farm and ranch owners would dare subdivide their land, use their own ponds to water cattle, we have limited our food production.

People don't go hungry because we can't make enough food. People go hungry because idiots like you think they have the right to control food production and land use.

What BS. There are square miles of the Willamette Valley that are paved and house over. There would be many more square miles the same were it not for the zoning laws.

 

[Old Rocks]

I am wondering ... even if this is true, the whole global warming nonsense ... what the hell do they expect to do? Throw money at the air and expect it to clean it?

Now that is stupid. What we have to do is develop energy sources for electricity and transportation that do not produce GHGs. Pretty damned simple.

 

[Old Rocks]

Say goodbye to milk. Dairy farmers don't make that sort of money.

Crap. Not going to happen. A strawman thrown out for wingnuts to get hysterical over. Sheesh, you people are so incredibly stupid, no wonder you totally supported Bush for eight years.

 

[dilloduck]

Now that is stupid. What we have to do is develop energy sources for electricity and transportation that do not produce GHGs. Pretty damned simple.

Well go ahead and DO IT and quit bitching about it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well go ahead and DO IT and quit bitching about it.

Being done as we speak. The big wind turbines are spreading and delivering and increasing percentage of our power here in Portland. We also have several very large plants that will be producing hundreds of Megawatts of solar panels being built in Portland and other parts of the state. As the grid spreads into South Central and South Eastern Oregon, geothermal will become a major player here also. Oregon is also leading in the development of wave energy.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You mean our good conservative Bush? But he is out of the picture come the 20th. So there may be some stipulations that go with recieving money after that.

Ohh Bush wrote and passed the bail out? Funny I was under the impressiom that CONGRESS did that, and who controls Congress? Since when did the Executive gain the Power to create, pass AND sign legislation?

Ohh and I before e EXCEPT after C.

 

[KMAN]

Next, they are going to tax the people of the US for each fart...

 

[del]

Now that is stupid. What we have to do is develop energy sources for electricity and transportation that do not produce GHGs. Pretty damned simple.

 

[editec]

Looks like I picked the wrong time to give up being a goat herder.

 

[Avatar4321]

Cause i so want to pay more for milk and beef.

 

[Zoom-boing]

You mean our good conservative Bush? But he is out of the picture come the 20th. So there may be some stipulations that go with recieving money after that.

Congress passed the failout. Last I checked both Dems and Reps were to blame for the handout fiasco.

Bully for Obama if he puts stipulations on handouts. Won't help with the money that's already gone.

 

[driveby]

Being done as we speak. The big wind turbines are spreading and delivering and increasing percentage of our power here in Portland. We also have several very large plants that will be producing hundreds of Megawatts of solar panels being built in Portland and other parts of the state. As the grid spreads into South Central and South Eastern Oregon, geothermal will become a major player here also. Oregon is also leading in the development of wave energy.

Ahh, they had a similar project planned in the Northeast, but too bad, because the wind mechanisms were in plain view of a certain family's favorite spot to go sailing.