England has new Doner Laws. They have lost control

[Tommy Tainant]

This is what happens when health care becomes a government responsibility. People become so much cattle.

I cant understand why you would denigrate such a marvelous gesture.

It's a marvelous gesture if done voluntarily. Otherwise it's theft. You do know these organs are taken from living people.

It is voluntary because you can opt out. As Bowie sang "We can be Heroes".

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is what happens when health care becomes a government responsibility. People become so much cattle.

I cant understand why you would denigrate such a marvelous gesture.

It's a marvelous gesture if done voluntarily. Otherwise it's theft. You do know these organs are taken from living people.

It is voluntary because you can opt out. As Bowie sang "We can be Heroes".

The default is opt in. Opting out won't even last. Too many people might opt out.

Once the government is fully in control of organ donation each individual will be responsible for maintaining those government owned bodies on a condition for reuse.

The same people who insist that abortion is a personal decision is quite happy to turn their bodies over to the government.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What's the penalty for mistakes? The opt out isn't discovered until after a successful transplant. If it isn't the immediate removal of the organ and disposal with the remains this is nothing but organ theft.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This is what happens when health care becomes a government responsibility. People become so much cattle.

I cant understand why you would denigrate such a marvelous gesture.

It's a marvelous gesture if done voluntarily. Otherwise it's theft. You do know these organs are taken from living people.

It is voluntary because you can opt out. As Bowie sang "We can be Heroes".

The default is opt in. Opting out won't even last. Too many people might opt out.

Once the government is fully in control of organ donation each individual will be responsible for maintaining those government owned bodies on a condition for reuse.

The same people who insist that abortion is a personal decision is quite happy to turn their bodies over to the government.

If people want to opt out then they have that right. But those who dont opt out are saving you and your family and friends.
You must see that as geenerally a good thing.
The evidence is that people dont opt out though. They like the idea of being a hero.

 

[Meister]

Makes you wonder just how hard the hospitals will try and save you when they are salivating over some of those rare blood type organs you're sporting.

It isnt America. The NHS has no profit in taking your organs. The surgeon who takes them wont even know the lucky recipient.

But, there will be a lucky recipient on the list.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Makes you wonder just how hard the hospitals will try and save you when they are salivating over some of those rare blood type organs you're sporting.

It isnt America. The NHS has no profit in taking your organs. The surgeon who takes them wont even know the lucky recipient.

But, there will be a lucky recipient on the list.

Well that is kinda the point of organ donation.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The surgeon who steals the organ may not know the recipient but the surgeon who placed the order certainly does. Once you are a donor no doctor has any incentive to keep you alive. You literally become worth more dead.

And the person getting those organs becomes a kind of monster cobbled together out of cadaver parts.

 

[Meister]

Makes you wonder just how hard the hospitals will try and save you when they are salivating over some of those rare blood type organs you're sporting.

It isnt America. The NHS has no profit in taking your organs. The surgeon who takes them wont even know the lucky recipient.

But, there will be a lucky recipient on the list.

Well that is kinda the point of organ donation.

Well, yeah, it is. But, I want to make sure they make every attempt to save me first. That may not be the case in certain instances.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Makes you wonder just how hard the hospitals will try and save you when they are salivating over some of those rare blood type organs you're sporting.

It isnt America. The NHS has no profit in taking your organs. The surgeon who takes them wont even know the lucky recipient.

But, there will be a lucky recipient on the list.

Well that is kinda the point of organ donation.

Well, yeah, it is. But, I want to make sure they make every attempt to save me first. That may not be the case in certain instances.

Why would any doctor want to save you? Kill you and a dozen people might benefit.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Makes you wonder just how hard the hospitals will try and save you when they are salivating over some of those rare blood type organs you're sporting.

It isnt America. The NHS has no profit in taking your organs. The surgeon who takes them wont even know the lucky recipient.

But, there will be a lucky recipient on the list.

Well that is kinda the point of organ donation.

Well, yeah, it is. But, I want to make sure they make every attempt to save me first. That may not be the case in certain instances.

Thats a big accusation. In the US I can see how there is profit in doing this. Have there been any scandals ?

 

[Meister]

Makes you wonder just how hard the hospitals will try and save you when they are salivating over some of those rare blood type organs you're sporting.

It isnt America. The NHS has no profit in taking your organs. The surgeon who takes them wont even know the lucky recipient.

But, there will be a lucky recipient on the list.

Well that is kinda the point of organ donation.

Well, yeah, it is. But, I want to make sure they make every attempt to save me first. That may not be the case in certain instances.

Thats a big accusation. In the US I can see how there is profit in doing this. Have there been any scandals ?

Really, how would we know?
Having said that, a nurse at a hospital told me to get off the donor list, like I previously stated on this thread.
I listened to her expertise.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I was looking around the Europe for News and found that England has new laws that take away your right to NOT donate your organs.
The UK government are planning to make all citizens organ donors by default, without seeking their explicit permission.

Theresa May’s cabinet will introduce reformations to organ ‘donation’ laws which they say will increase the availability or organs for transplant by 700 per year, according to the BBC.


They will do this by effectively stripping UK citizens’ right to decide the fate of their own organs after they die, unless they specifically opt-out of the controversial new scheme.

Breitbart.com reports: The legislation is expected to be brought before the House of Commons when MPs return from recess in Autumn, and if Parliament approves the organ donation law, it will come into effect in England by Spring 2020.

Currently, Wales already operates such a system, Scotland is looking to introduce a similar scheme, and Northern Ireland is also considering it.

The law will mean that unless a person has expressed a wish to not donate their organs, doctors will presume the dead person is a donor.

There will be exceptions — children under 18, those with diminished mental capabilities, and foreigners who have been in the country less than 12 months — and relatives can still override the ‘presumed consent’, if the ‘donor’ has relatives in the first place to object.


Those who do want to opt out will be able to do so by using a National Health Service (NHS) app to be launched at the end of the year.

However, medical ethicist Dr Piers Benn raised several issues arising from the Government legally changing all Britons to presumed organ ‘donors’, saying that it may leave some people feeling “cheated” and “uncomfortable” with what has hitherto been treated as a “gift”.

Dr Benn said the current system respected that “you know what you’re doing and you’re doing it because you want to save someone’s life”, he told Sky News on Sunday.

“The problem with opt-outs is that — while it does save lives — people may not be aware that that is the default assumption. so people will be ‘donating’ their organs without knowing they are doing that.”

Asked by the news anchor whether it would give doctors licence to take your organs, the medical ethicist said: “Sometimes if there is no known wish a doctor can approach relatives and some relatives decide not to donate.

“But the issue really is how do we weigh up the number of lives saved with the need to respect fully the consent of the person who has just died to what happens to their organs.”

Recognising that the 700 additional organs would be available every year under the new system by virtue of being taken by the deceased who may not have expressed a wish to donate when alive, Dr Benn observed that “There is something lost [in this system].

“I don’t say this solves the issue completely as it removes that you know what you’re doing and you’re giving.

“After all, no one has an obligation to save strangers’ lives.”

Asked whether it would make people feel that the government is presuming ownership over there body, the medical ethicist reiterated that you can opt out — but that it was down to a person reading the “small print”.

“You can opt out but you have to be pretty savvy to do so. Of course, the reason why the government have shifted from the opt-in to the opt-out position is to increase donations — which is a good thing, but done in a way which is at risk of being done by slight of hand.”

I wonder if these laws are active in Canada.?

Good.

Society is supposed to look after society. Once you're dead, you're dead. Forget the stupid fantasy stories religions give you.

Living people need these donors, dead people don't need their organs.

Time to live in REALITY.

The reality being that the government owns your body and can do whatever it wants to with it's own possessions.

What do dead people own, exactly?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I was looking around the Europe for News and found that England has new laws that take away your right to NOT donate your organs.
The UK government are planning to make all citizens organ donors by default, without seeking their explicit permission.

Theresa May’s cabinet will introduce reformations to organ ‘donation’ laws which they say will increase the availability or organs for transplant by 700 per year, according to the BBC.


They will do this by effectively stripping UK citizens’ right to decide the fate of their own organs after they die, unless they specifically opt-out of the controversial new scheme.

Breitbart.com reports: The legislation is expected to be brought before the House of Commons when MPs return from recess in Autumn, and if Parliament approves the organ donation law, it will come into effect in England by Spring 2020.

Currently, Wales already operates such a system, Scotland is looking to introduce a similar scheme, and Northern Ireland is also considering it.

The law will mean that unless a person has expressed a wish to not donate their organs, doctors will presume the dead person is a donor.

There will be exceptions — children under 18, those with diminished mental capabilities, and foreigners who have been in the country less than 12 months — and relatives can still override the ‘presumed consent’, if the ‘donor’ has relatives in the first place to object.


Those who do want to opt out will be able to do so by using a National Health Service (NHS) app to be launched at the end of the year.

However, medical ethicist Dr Piers Benn raised several issues arising from the Government legally changing all Britons to presumed organ ‘donors’, saying that it may leave some people feeling “cheated” and “uncomfortable” with what has hitherto been treated as a “gift”.

Dr Benn said the current system respected that “you know what you’re doing and you’re doing it because you want to save someone’s life”, he told Sky News on Sunday.

“The problem with opt-outs is that — while it does save lives — people may not be aware that that is the default assumption. so people will be ‘donating’ their organs without knowing they are doing that.”

Asked by the news anchor whether it would give doctors licence to take your organs, the medical ethicist said: “Sometimes if there is no known wish a doctor can approach relatives and some relatives decide not to donate.

“But the issue really is how do we weigh up the number of lives saved with the need to respect fully the consent of the person who has just died to what happens to their organs.”

Recognising that the 700 additional organs would be available every year under the new system by virtue of being taken by the deceased who may not have expressed a wish to donate when alive, Dr Benn observed that “There is something lost [in this system].

“I don’t say this solves the issue completely as it removes that you know what you’re doing and you’re giving.

“After all, no one has an obligation to save strangers’ lives.”

Asked whether it would make people feel that the government is presuming ownership over there body, the medical ethicist reiterated that you can opt out — but that it was down to a person reading the “small print”.

“You can opt out but you have to be pretty savvy to do so. Of course, the reason why the government have shifted from the opt-in to the opt-out position is to increase donations — which is a good thing, but done in a way which is at risk of being done by slight of hand.”

I wonder if these laws are active in Canada.?

Good.

Society is supposed to look after society. Once you're dead, you're dead. Forget the stupid fantasy stories religions give you.

Living people need these donors, dead people don't need their organs.

Time to live in REALITY.

The reality being that the government owns your body and can do whatever it wants to with it's own possessions.

What do dead people own, exactly?

Do women "own" their bodies? At the moment of death that ownership passes from the individual to the government. No more death with dignity. Keep that body alive until it's looted.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I was looking around the Europe for News and found that England has new laws that take away your right to NOT donate your organs.
The UK government are planning to make all citizens organ donors by default, without seeking their explicit permission.

Theresa May’s cabinet will introduce reformations to organ ‘donation’ laws which they say will increase the availability or organs for transplant by 700 per year, according to the BBC.


They will do this by effectively stripping UK citizens’ right to decide the fate of their own organs after they die, unless they specifically opt-out of the controversial new scheme.

Breitbart.com reports: The legislation is expected to be brought before the House of Commons when MPs return from recess in Autumn, and if Parliament approves the organ donation law, it will come into effect in England by Spring 2020.

Currently, Wales already operates such a system, Scotland is looking to introduce a similar scheme, and Northern Ireland is also considering it.

The law will mean that unless a person has expressed a wish to not donate their organs, doctors will presume the dead person is a donor.

There will be exceptions — children under 18, those with diminished mental capabilities, and foreigners who have been in the country less than 12 months — and relatives can still override the ‘presumed consent’, if the ‘donor’ has relatives in the first place to object.


Those who do want to opt out will be able to do so by using a National Health Service (NHS) app to be launched at the end of the year.

However, medical ethicist Dr Piers Benn raised several issues arising from the Government legally changing all Britons to presumed organ ‘donors’, saying that it may leave some people feeling “cheated” and “uncomfortable” with what has hitherto been treated as a “gift”.

Dr Benn said the current system respected that “you know what you’re doing and you’re doing it because you want to save someone’s life”, he told Sky News on Sunday.

“The problem with opt-outs is that — while it does save lives — people may not be aware that that is the default assumption. so people will be ‘donating’ their organs without knowing they are doing that.”

Asked by the news anchor whether it would give doctors licence to take your organs, the medical ethicist said: “Sometimes if there is no known wish a doctor can approach relatives and some relatives decide not to donate.

“But the issue really is how do we weigh up the number of lives saved with the need to respect fully the consent of the person who has just died to what happens to their organs.”

Recognising that the 700 additional organs would be available every year under the new system by virtue of being taken by the deceased who may not have expressed a wish to donate when alive, Dr Benn observed that “There is something lost [in this system].

“I don’t say this solves the issue completely as it removes that you know what you’re doing and you’re giving.

“After all, no one has an obligation to save strangers’ lives.”

Asked whether it would make people feel that the government is presuming ownership over there body, the medical ethicist reiterated that you can opt out — but that it was down to a person reading the “small print”.

“You can opt out but you have to be pretty savvy to do so. Of course, the reason why the government have shifted from the opt-in to the opt-out position is to increase donations — which is a good thing, but done in a way which is at risk of being done by slight of hand.”

I wonder if these laws are active in Canada.?

Good.

Society is supposed to look after society. Once you're dead, you're dead. Forget the stupid fantasy stories religions give you.

Living people need these donors, dead people don't need their organs.

Time to live in REALITY.

The reality being that the government owns your body and can do whatever it wants to with it's own possessions.

What do dead people own, exactly?

Do women "own" their bodies? At the moment of death that ownership passes from the individual to the government. No more death with dignity. Keep that body alive until it's looted.

It's not about at the moment of death it passing to ownership of the government. It's not like the govt is going to take your body and do with it what it likes.

It's going to be other individuals who benefit from it.

Society is going to benefit. Or have we become so selfish now that we couldn't give a stuff about the society we are in?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I was looking around the Europe for News and found that England has new laws that take away your right to NOT donate your organs.
The UK government are planning to make all citizens organ donors by default, without seeking their explicit permission.

Theresa May’s cabinet will introduce reformations to organ ‘donation’ laws which they say will increase the availability or organs for transplant by 700 per year, according to the BBC.


They will do this by effectively stripping UK citizens’ right to decide the fate of their own organs after they die, unless they specifically opt-out of the controversial new scheme.

Breitbart.com reports: The legislation is expected to be brought before the House of Commons when MPs return from recess in Autumn, and if Parliament approves the organ donation law, it will come into effect in England by Spring 2020.

Currently, Wales already operates such a system, Scotland is looking to introduce a similar scheme, and Northern Ireland is also considering it.

The law will mean that unless a person has expressed a wish to not donate their organs, doctors will presume the dead person is a donor.

There will be exceptions — children under 18, those with diminished mental capabilities, and foreigners who have been in the country less than 12 months — and relatives can still override the ‘presumed consent’, if the ‘donor’ has relatives in the first place to object.


Those who do want to opt out will be able to do so by using a National Health Service (NHS) app to be launched at the end of the year.

However, medical ethicist Dr Piers Benn raised several issues arising from the Government legally changing all Britons to presumed organ ‘donors’, saying that it may leave some people feeling “cheated” and “uncomfortable” with what has hitherto been treated as a “gift”.

Dr Benn said the current system respected that “you know what you’re doing and you’re doing it because you want to save someone’s life”, he told Sky News on Sunday.

“The problem with opt-outs is that — while it does save lives — people may not be aware that that is the default assumption. so people will be ‘donating’ their organs without knowing they are doing that.”

Asked by the news anchor whether it would give doctors licence to take your organs, the medical ethicist said: “Sometimes if there is no known wish a doctor can approach relatives and some relatives decide not to donate.

“But the issue really is how do we weigh up the number of lives saved with the need to respect fully the consent of the person who has just died to what happens to their organs.”

Recognising that the 700 additional organs would be available every year under the new system by virtue of being taken by the deceased who may not have expressed a wish to donate when alive, Dr Benn observed that “There is something lost [in this system].

“I don’t say this solves the issue completely as it removes that you know what you’re doing and you’re giving.

“After all, no one has an obligation to save strangers’ lives.”

Asked whether it would make people feel that the government is presuming ownership over there body, the medical ethicist reiterated that you can opt out — but that it was down to a person reading the “small print”.

“You can opt out but you have to be pretty savvy to do so. Of course, the reason why the government have shifted from the opt-in to the opt-out position is to increase donations — which is a good thing, but done in a way which is at risk of being done by slight of hand.”

I wonder if these laws are active in Canada.?

Good.

Society is supposed to look after society. Once you're dead, you're dead. Forget the stupid fantasy stories religions give you.

Living people need these donors, dead people don't need their organs.

Time to live in REALITY.

The reality being that the government owns your body and can do whatever it wants to with it's own possessions.

What do dead people own, exactly?

Do women "own" their bodies? At the moment of death that ownership passes from the individual to the government. No more death with dignity. Keep that body alive until it's looted.

It's not about at the moment of death it passing to ownership of the government. It's not like the govt is going to take your body and do with it what it likes.

It's going to be other individuals who benefit from it.

Society is going to benefit. Or have we become so selfish now that we couldn't give a stuff about the society we are in?

We exist to serve the collective? Is that what you mean? Is there an obligation to serve society by maintaining those organs? Should it be illegal to live an unhealthy lifestyle? How about a plan to harvest healthy organs before some old person wears them out? Why should a sedentary 50 year old get to keep his perfectly healthy heart when 30 year old could be playing with his children? Why be so selfish?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Good.

Society is supposed to look after society. Once you're dead, you're dead. Forget the stupid fantasy stories religions give you.

Living people need these donors, dead people don't need their organs.

Time to live in REALITY.

The reality being that the government owns your body and can do whatever it wants to with it's own possessions.

What do dead people own, exactly?

Do women "own" their bodies? At the moment of death that ownership passes from the individual to the government. No more death with dignity. Keep that body alive until it's looted.

It's not about at the moment of death it passing to ownership of the government. It's not like the govt is going to take your body and do with it what it likes.

It's going to be other individuals who benefit from it.

Society is going to benefit. Or have we become so selfish now that we couldn't give a stuff about the society we are in?

We exist to serve the collective? Is that what you mean? Is there an obligation to serve society by maintaining those organs? Should it be illegal to live an unhealthy lifestyle? How about a plan to harvest healthy organs before some old person wears them out? Why should a sedentary 50 year old get to keep his perfectly healthy heart when 30 year old could be playing with his children? Why be so selfish?

Right, take something simple and move it to its maximum. What does this have to do with what we're talking about? Oh, nothing.

I didn't say we exist to serve the collective. I said within society there are things that we do in order to make the collective stronger.

We pay taxes. We do jury service. Serve in the military when called upon.

I mean, how could you take conscription to it's maximum? I'm sure you could try. Doesn't mean it's happened.

Why should anyone go into the military conscripted? Seriously, isn't it bad of the government to do so? WW2, what a bunch of fuckers that govt was for conscripting people and making them risk their LIVES for the common good.

Are you saying that in the event of such a war again, you'd be opposed to conscription?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The reality being that the government owns your body and can do whatever it wants to with it's own possessions.

What do dead people own, exactly?

Do women "own" their bodies? At the moment of death that ownership passes from the individual to the government. No more death with dignity. Keep that body alive until it's looted.

It's not about at the moment of death it passing to ownership of the government. It's not like the govt is going to take your body and do with it what it likes.

It's going to be other individuals who benefit from it.

Society is going to benefit. Or have we become so selfish now that we couldn't give a stuff about the society we are in?

We exist to serve the collective? Is that what you mean? Is there an obligation to serve society by maintaining those organs? Should it be illegal to live an unhealthy lifestyle? How about a plan to harvest healthy organs before some old person wears them out? Why should a sedentary 50 year old get to keep his perfectly healthy heart when 30 year old could be playing with his children? Why be so selfish?

Right, take something simple and move it to its maximum. What does this have to do with what we're talking about? Oh, nothing.

I didn't say we exist to serve the collective. I said within society there are things that we do in order to make the collective stronger.

We pay taxes. We do jury service. Serve in the military when called upon.

I mean, how could you take conscription to it's maximum? I'm sure you could try. Doesn't mean it's happened.

Why should anyone go into the military conscripted? Seriously, isn't it bad of the government to do so? WW2, what a bunch of fuckers that govt was for conscripting people and making them risk their LIVES for the common good.

Are you saying that in the event of such a war again, you'd be opposed to conscription?

I am against the collective! You have a hive mind! Poor thing. No I would not do a single thing to make the collective stronger. There is no such thing as the common good. While I would fight against a common enemy, I would do it as a lone predator. I do not play on teams.

Society should have absolutely no claim on an individual's property including their bodies. Die at home and make sure everyone waits a good hour before they call anyone.

How did we come to this? Really. We used to be such a proud people. How did this happen to the British! It's grotesque.

 

[frigidweirdo]

What do dead people own, exactly?

Do women "own" their bodies? At the moment of death that ownership passes from the individual to the government. No more death with dignity. Keep that body alive until it's looted.

It's not about at the moment of death it passing to ownership of the government. It's not like the govt is going to take your body and do with it what it likes.

It's going to be other individuals who benefit from it.

Society is going to benefit. Or have we become so selfish now that we couldn't give a stuff about the society we are in?

We exist to serve the collective? Is that what you mean? Is there an obligation to serve society by maintaining those organs? Should it be illegal to live an unhealthy lifestyle? How about a plan to harvest healthy organs before some old person wears them out? Why should a sedentary 50 year old get to keep his perfectly healthy heart when 30 year old could be playing with his children? Why be so selfish?

Right, take something simple and move it to its maximum. What does this have to do with what we're talking about? Oh, nothing.

I didn't say we exist to serve the collective. I said within society there are things that we do in order to make the collective stronger.

We pay taxes. We do jury service. Serve in the military when called upon.

I mean, how could you take conscription to it's maximum? I'm sure you could try. Doesn't mean it's happened.

Why should anyone go into the military conscripted? Seriously, isn't it bad of the government to do so? WW2, what a bunch of fuckers that govt was for conscripting people and making them risk their LIVES for the common good.

Are you saying that in the event of such a war again, you'd be opposed to conscription?

I am against the collective! You have a hive mind! Poor thing. No I would not do a single thing to make the collective stronger. There is no such thing as the common good. While I would fight against a common enemy, I would do it as a lone predator. I do not play on teams.

Society should have absolutely no claim on an individual's property including their bodies. Die at home and make sure everyone waits a good hour before they call anyone.

How did we come to this? Really. We used to be such a proud people. How did this happen to the British! It's grotesque.

You're against the collective? You're an anarchist. Right.....

So, in the event that China declares war on the US, fuck it, I'm not fighting, now one should fight to defend their land.

That's quite sad.

Why don't you go live a hermit life? You know the internet is only possible with the will of the collective, right? That you have a computer is because of the strength of the collective. So maybe you should stop using anything and everything that comes from the collective.

Roads, infrastructure, electricity from power stations, everything. Go be a hermit.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do women "own" their bodies? At the moment of death that ownership passes from the individual to the government. No more death with dignity. Keep that body alive until it's looted.

It's not about at the moment of death it passing to ownership of the government. It's not like the govt is going to take your body and do with it what it likes.

It's going to be other individuals who benefit from it.

Society is going to benefit. Or have we become so selfish now that we couldn't give a stuff about the society we are in?

We exist to serve the collective? Is that what you mean? Is there an obligation to serve society by maintaining those organs? Should it be illegal to live an unhealthy lifestyle? How about a plan to harvest healthy organs before some old person wears them out? Why should a sedentary 50 year old get to keep his perfectly healthy heart when 30 year old could be playing with his children? Why be so selfish?

Right, take something simple and move it to its maximum. What does this have to do with what we're talking about? Oh, nothing.

I didn't say we exist to serve the collective. I said within society there are things that we do in order to make the collective stronger.

We pay taxes. We do jury service. Serve in the military when called upon.

I mean, how could you take conscription to it's maximum? I'm sure you could try. Doesn't mean it's happened.

Why should anyone go into the military conscripted? Seriously, isn't it bad of the government to do so? WW2, what a bunch of fuckers that govt was for conscripting people and making them risk their LIVES for the common good.

Are you saying that in the event of such a war again, you'd be opposed to conscription?

I am against the collective! You have a hive mind! Poor thing. No I would not do a single thing to make the collective stronger. There is no such thing as the common good. While I would fight against a common enemy, I would do it as a lone predator. I do not play on teams.

Society should have absolutely no claim on an individual's property including their bodies. Die at home and make sure everyone waits a good hour before they call anyone.

How did we come to this? Really. We used to be such a proud people. How did this happen to the British! It's grotesque.

You're against the collective? You're an anarchist. Right.....

So, in the event that China declares war on the US, fuck it, I'm not fighting, now one should fight to defend their land.

That's quite sad.

Why don't you go live a hermit life? You know the internet is only possible with the will of the collective, right? That you have a computer is because of the strength of the collective. So maybe you should stop using anything and everything that comes from the collective.

Roads, infrastructure, electricity from power stations, everything. Go be a hermit.

You can't buy anything? You can't haul your ass up and travel?

In reality, if China declared war on us, and killed democrats I would not much care. More power to them.

Don't be a Borg. You really are capable of independence. You don't need to devote your life and indeed your very corpus to others who would rather you died and they fed on your guts.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Oh. And. I've always gotten out of jury duty. Anyone stupid enough to not get out of jury duty is too stupid to be a juror. Do you really want your fate decided by someone who couldn't get out of jury service.