End the GOP-Dem Duopoly and Start a NEW Party; Else There is NO Choice 4 Change

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    Rules fight sparks drama at RNC – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    Can't please everybody? They did not even try to give opponents an equal say in what wen on and even pulled shenanigans that amount to kidnapping to prevent opponents from organizing their opposition effectively.

    The pure fascist side of Romney and the GOPe is plain and unavoidable.

    Grassroots TPM and social conservatives must start a new party. Romney is dead and even if he wins he is no better than Obama, forget all the spin, partisan bullshit and nonsense. Obama is NOT a Kenyan Communist Manchurian candidate. That is nothing more than stupid bullshit lies to keep the stupid inside the GOP.

    It is over, fold up the chairs, turn out the lights and start planning for a third party run by TPM and social conservatives in 2016.

    Fuck these god damned Wall Street Republicans and their fucking lobbyists.
     
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    These fascist Romney bastards are total sellout slimeballs and not any different from the goons in the Democratic party.

    It is time to start a new party. Period. Fuck the GOP; itis dead.
     
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    The answer is divided government. The proof is the fiscal cliff, action w/o anyone's fingerprints. No one will donate to a 3rd party. The closest thing I've seen is the TEA Party. So join the TEA Party, or vote Libertarian.
     
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    There is nothing stopping the formation of a new political party. Nothing but lack of interest.
     
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    Call that a significant electorate. Fringe groups have zero power.
     
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    Oh, yes let's guarantee an Obama victory. The RNC took these steps in response to looney tune libertarian Ron Paul supporters who vowed to reign havoc during the convention. Delegates should vote for the person who won their state primary, deceiving voters so that they can get to the convention and vote otherwise is dishonest.
     
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    The Tea Party has been effective because they have rejected the urge and calls to form a third party, that would relegate themselves to relevancy. Instead, the Tea Party has embraced the Republican party and is changing its constituency. What needs to happen now is get these Tea Party representatives in Congress into leadership positions.
     
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    What the Republican Party did in response to Ron Paul delegates is the equivalent of using a flamethrower to kill a gnat.

    First off, you seem to have NO CLUE as to how the delegate process works. Bound delegates are required to vote for the candidate they are bound to in the FIRST ROUND ONLY. None of the Ron Paul delegates were going to break that rule.

    Second, no one deceived anyone, in most states the state conventions assign delegates based on how they vote at the convention, not on the primary popular vote. That is part of the Republican rules. What you people don't seem to remember is that Ron Paul's delegate strategy was the SAME strategy used by your hero Ronald Reagan.

    You fucks broke your own rules in order to silence dissenting voices in your own party. Your Kabuki show in Tampa was nothing more than the blatant admission that the People's voices don't matter at all, that the Establishment is going to choose the nominee regardless and that the Republican Party is just as corrupt and deceitful as the Democrats.

    IOW, what we witnessed wasn't a nomination, it was a coronation.
     
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    Of course people should vote for who they are pledged to vote for, but the rule 12 change is completely unnecesary and give all power to the top GOPe controlled national power structure. The states and local party people are locked out of any influence unless they are supporting what the national level DC-Wall Street elite tell them to do.

    The rule 16 change was also far more than what was needed to deflect a Paulista take over. This power for candidates to censor who is on the slate for them is top-down dictation to the states as to who they will send and completely unneeded.

    But look at how the GOP managed this thing with fraud, kidnapping and violence at the convention.

    You think you can TRUST people like that? Hell, GOP members have been calling Obama a communist, but he hasnt done anything this violent and contemptuous toward the Tea Party movement that I have seen.

    There is NO DIFFERENCE between Obama and Romney. NONE. They are both contemptuous of the American people and the will of the people.
     
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    This rule change was targeted at the TPM and keeping the popular will out of GOP decisions.

    The Dems have long been controled by East Coast Unions and Chicago mob, but now the GOP is taken over and controled by fascists and centralized state thralls.

    Whatevere the difference is between the Obamanites and the Romneybots is miniscule and not worth playing ball with the GOPe lying bastards any more.

    It is time for a new party and four years of a Commie Obama instead of a fascist Romney is well worth the cost of replacing the GOP with a geniunely populist party that respects the American people.
     

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