End of Oil is at our door step; what next?

[Cellblock2429]

/----/ Here we go again, the fear mongers predictions of the end of oil going back to 1909:
https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/weve-been-incorrectly-predicting-peak-oil-for-over-a-ce-1668986354
1909: 25 or 30 years longer.,.,.
1919: Two to five years until maximum production.,.,.,.,.

Those estimates were based on "known" reserves/consumption. Over time more oil is found and consumption goes up. The one fact you need to keep in mind is; oil is finite, our consumption is not.

Sooner or later the two (2) crash into each other & that day is 19 years away.

/----/ "oil is finite" Why? When did small animals and vegetation cease to die?
BBC - Standard Grade Bitesize Chemistry - How crude oil was formed ...
www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/standard/.../materialsfromoil/how_crude_oil_was_formed/.../1...
crude oil [crude oil : Crude oil is formed from the remains of small animals and plants that died and fell to the bottom of the sea. Their remains were covered by mud. As the sediment was buried by more sediment, it started to change into rock as the temperature and pressure increased.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Solar panels cost money, maintenance, replacement, and the sun is only in the sky for maybe 12 hours a day if there isn't a heavy overcast. Additionally there's not that much energy is generated per foot to cover the energy requirements of the USA unless you're covering massive areas utilized for cropland..,.,.,.,.,

You made some great points but solar panels are made from aluminum & Trump just put a stiff import tax on aluminum making research and development of solar panels off limits.

 

[Desperado]

The song remains the same. Same fear tactc that we will be out of oil in 15 to 20 years. startiing back aroud 1920. We have been using more oil ever since without the slightest decline in the worlds oil.

 

[OldLady]

New estimates of worldwide crude oil reserves total 1.651 trillion bbl
(1,651,000,000,000)
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In 2010, global crude oil demand was 86.4 million barrels per day.
86,400,000,000x365=315360000000000000
Daily global crude oil demand 2006-2018 | Statistic

1,651,000,000,000/315360000000000000=19 years left

My math might be off but it looks like, at current rate of consumption all the known oil reserves will be used up in 19 years.

If the numbers are correct, we need to act now before it is too late !!

Any suggestions?

We've known this since the 60's and Big Oil has made sure we ignore it as a Green Party nonissue cooked up by the Communists. We could be 75% alternatives by now, including nuclear, wind, solar and tidal. But there is still money to be made on oil. So we will continue to treat those alternatives as fringe technology until there is no choice.

Or maybe until they actually are genuinely cheaper than oil....ie not welfare for the rich

Can't happen until they're being used on a large scale. Which won't happen because Oil has people convinced ..... it's a sham for the rich.

 

[OldLady]

The song remains the same. Same fear tactc that we will be out of oil in 15 to 20 years. startiing back aroud 1920. We have been using more oil ever since without the slightest decline in the worlds oil.

? That seems unlikely.

 

[Manonthestreet]

New estimates of worldwide crude oil reserves total 1.651 trillion bbl
(1,651,000,000,000)
Login

In 2010, global crude oil demand was 86.4 million barrels per day.
86,400,000,000x365=315360000000000000
Daily global crude oil demand 2006-2018 | Statistic

1,651,000,000,000/315360000000000000=19 years left

My math might be off but it looks like, at current rate of consumption all the known oil reserves will be used up in 19 years.

If the numbers are correct, we need to act now before it is too late !!

Any suggestions?

We've known this since the 60's and Big Oil has made sure we ignore it as a Green Party nonissue cooked up by the Communists. We could be 75% alternatives by now, including nuclear, wind, solar and tidal. But there is still money to be made on oil. So we will continue to treat those alternatives as fringe technology until there is no choice.

Or maybe until they actually are genuinely cheaper than oil....ie not welfare for the rich

Can't happen until they're being used on a large scale. Which won't happen because Oil has people convinced ..... it's a sham for the rich.

SO called renewable options have one of the biggest free ad campaigns ever courtesy of the press and yet cant break out....should tell you something

 

[OldLady]

New estimates of worldwide crude oil reserves total 1.651 trillion bbl
(1,651,000,000,000)
Login

In 2010, global crude oil demand was 86.4 million barrels per day.
86,400,000,000x365=315360000000000000
Daily global crude oil demand 2006-2018 | Statistic

1,651,000,000,000/315360000000000000=19 years left

My math might be off but it looks like, at current rate of consumption all the known oil reserves will be used up in 19 years.

If the numbers are correct, we need to act now before it is too late !!

Any suggestions?

We've known this since the 60's and Big Oil has made sure we ignore it as a Green Party nonissue cooked up by the Communists. We could be 75% alternatives by now, including nuclear, wind, solar and tidal. But there is still money to be made on oil. So we will continue to treat those alternatives as fringe technology until there is no choice.

Or maybe until they actually are genuinely cheaper than oil....ie not welfare for the rich

Can't happen until they're being used on a large scale. Which won't happen because Oil has people convinced ..... it's a sham for the rich.

SO called renewable options have one of the biggest free ad campaigns ever courtesy of the press and yet cant break out....should tell you something

Yeah, it tells me you're full of shit, sir.
Biggest free ad campaigns ever? New technologies evolve and overcome problems as they are used on a large scale and improvements are addressed. They can not get off the ground because the government is run by money and the money is in Oil.

 

[Manonthestreet]

New estimates of worldwide crude oil reserves total 1.651 trillion bbl
(1,651,000,000,000)
Login

In 2010, global crude oil demand was 86.4 million barrels per day.
86,400,000,000x365=315360000000000000
Daily global crude oil demand 2006-2018 | Statistic

1,651,000,000,000/315360000000000000=19 years left

My math might be off but it looks like, at current rate of consumption all the known oil reserves will be used up in 19 years.

If the numbers are correct, we need to act now before it is too late !!

Any suggestions?

We've known this since the 60's and Big Oil has made sure we ignore it as a Green Party nonissue cooked up by the Communists. We could be 75% alternatives by now, including nuclear, wind, solar and tidal. But there is still money to be made on oil. So we will continue to treat those alternatives as fringe technology until there is no choice.

Or maybe until they actually are genuinely cheaper than oil....ie not welfare for the rich

Can't happen until they're being used on a large scale. Which won't happen because Oil has people convinced ..... it's a sham for the rich.

SO called renewable options have one of the biggest free ad campaigns ever courtesy of the press and yet cant break out....should tell you something

Yeah, it tells me you're full of shit, sir.
Biggest free ad campaigns ever? New technologies evolve and overcome problems as they are used on a large scale and improvements are addressed. They can not get off the ground because the government is run by money and the money is in Oil.

Poor rube......yes free ads....constantly bombarded with go green blah blah blah......stuff doesn't go economy wide until its economic.....

 

[watchingfromafar]

China Aims to Spend at Least $360 Billion on Renewable Energy by 2020

China intends to spend more than $360 billion through 2020 on renewable power sources like solar and wind, the government’s energy agency said on Thursday.

The country’s National Energy Administration laid out a plan to dominate one of the world’s fastest-growing industries, just at a time when the United States is set to take the opposite tack as Donald J. Trump, a climate-change doubter, prepares to assume the presidency.

The agency said in a statement that China would create more than 13 million jobs in the renewable energy sector by 2020, curb the growth of greenhouse gasses that contribute to global warming and reduce the amount of soot that in recent days has blanketed Beijing and other Chinese cities in a noxious cloud of smog.

China surpassed the United States a decade ago as the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gasses, and now discharges about twice as much. For years, its oil and coal industries prospered under powerful political patrons and the growth-above-anything mantra of the ruling Communist Party.

China Aims to Spend at Least $360 Billion on Renewable Energy by 2020


2017 China Electric Car Sales Blow World Out Of The Water — BAIC EC-Series Is A Superstar

The rise and rise of the Chinese plug-in electric vehicle (PEV) market is unstoppable, with yet another record performance in December. A total of 102,000 new passenger PEVs were registered last month, up 130% year over year. Yes, that was just December, and it pulled the year-to-date count to over 600,000 units, up 71% compared to 2016.

As consequence of this rapid growth, in December, the PEV share hit a record 3.3% market share of the entire Chinese auto market, while the entire 2017 PEV market share ended at 2.1%. That’s firmly ahead of last year’s score (1.5%) and above the USA (1.2%) and Europe (~1.9%).

The Chinese PEV market represented roughly half of the 1.2 million plug-ins sold worldwide in 2017, while Chinese carmakers made 47% of all PEVs sold last year.
2017 China Electric Car Sales Blow World Out Of The Water — BAIC EC-Series Is A Superstar | CleanTechnica

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Convert to natural gas.

 

[Nova78]

New estimates of worldwide crude oil reserves total 1.651 trillion bbl
(1,651,000,000,000)
Login

In 2010, global crude oil demand was 86.4 million barrels per day.
86,400,000,000x365=315360000000000000
Daily global crude oil demand 2006-2018 | Statistic

1,651,000,000,000/315360000000000000=19 years left

My math might be off but it looks like, at current rate of consumption all the known oil reserves will be used up in 19 years.

If the numbers are correct, we need to act now before it is too late !!

Any suggestions?

Yea, Quit listening to Demorats .

 

[Cellblock2429]

Solar panels cost money, maintenance, replacement, and the sun is only in the sky for maybe 12 hours a day if there isn't a heavy overcast. Additionally there's not that much energy is generated per foot to cover the energy requirements of the USA unless you're covering massive areas utilized for cropland..,.,.,.,.,

You made some great points but solar panels are made from aluminum & Trump just put a stiff import tax on aluminum making research and development of solar panels off limits.

/----/ Either solar isn't as cost effective as libs always claimed or we're gonna step up our production:
aluminum - USGS Mineral Resources Program
https://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/aluminum/mcs-2013-alumi.pdf
Domestic Production and Use: In 2012, 5 companies operated 10 primary aluminum smelters; 4 smelters were closed temporarily for the entire year. Based on published market prices, the value of primary metal production was. $4.32 billion. Aluminum consumption was centered in the East Central United States.

 

[miketx]

New estimates of worldwide crude oil reserves total 1.651 trillion bbl
(1,651,000,000,000)
Login

In 2010, global crude oil demand was 86.4 million barrels per day.
86,400,000,000x365=315360000000000000
Daily global crude oil demand 2006-2018 | Statistic

1,651,000,000,000/315360000000000000=19 years left

My math might be off but it looks like, at current rate of consumption all the known oil reserves will be used up in 19 years.

If the numbers are correct, we need to act now before it is too late !!

Any suggestions?

Ride the bus.

 

[MindWars]

Oh , oh watch out this might be a conspiracy theory..........

U.S. Oil Reserves, Resources, and Unlimited Future Supply

 

[expat_panama]

...fear mongers predictions of the end of oil...

It's done by taking the proven oil reserves and dividing it by consumption. The reason that the quotient is only a few years is it's very expensive to 'prove' reserves, so oil reserves are only proven a few years in advance. Here's the historic reserves levels:

--and here's historic consumption:

The end of oil is in the future, but it will remain there indefinitely.

 

[Cellblock2429]

...fear mongers predictions of the end of oil...

It's done by taking the proven oil reserves and dividing it by consumption. The reason that the quotient is only a few years is it's very expensive to 'prove' reserves, so oil reserves are only proven a few years in advance. Here's the historic reserves levels:

--and here's historic consumption:

The end of oil is in the future, but it will remain there indefinitely.

/----/ Who says oil is not renewable?

 

[expat_panama]

Who says oil is not renewable?

Exactly, and it's not even a "fossil fuel" either given that the fact we can hydrocarbons in space. iirc Titan has oceans of oil.

 

[miketx]

Who says oil is not renewable?

Exactly, and it's not even a "fossil fuel" either given that the fact we can hydrocarbons in space. iirc Titan has oceans of oil.

Getting to Titan, getting enough oil, and getting it back here are now impossible. Unless we have some tech they are hiding, and if they do, why are we stilling making rockets?

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Solar panels cost money, maintenance, replacement, and the sun is only in the sky for maybe 12 hours a day if there isn't a heavy overcast. Additionally there's not that much energy is generated per foot to cover the energy requirements of the USA unless you're covering massive areas utilized for cropland..,.,.,.,.,

You made some great points but solar panels are made from aluminum & Trump just put a stiff import tax on aluminum making research and development of solar panels off limits.

No! Solar panels are made of silicon, germanium, indium, selenide, gallium, and copper, which are the materials utilized in semiconductors, transistors, and microchips. Both of which are readily produced right here in the good old USA. Very little aluminum is required in their construction for anything except as a casing to hold the panel and support it. That can be replaced by a variety of other sturdy materials... Even rock would work for that and if it doesn't conduct that's even better.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[Damaged Eagle]

SO called renewable options have one of the biggest free ad campaigns ever courtesy of the press and yet cant break out....should tell you something

Yeah, it tells me you're full of shit, sir.
Biggest free ad campaigns ever? New technologies evolve and overcome problems as they are used on a large scale and improvements are addressed. They can not get off the ground because the government is run by money and the money is in Oil.

Solyndra Scandal | Full Coverage of Failed Solar Startup - The Washington Post

*****CHUCKLE*****