End Gun-Free Zones Now

[Mrs. M.]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

 

[Moonglow]

Yeah, it's my right to walk into a bank armed and brandishing a weapon with a banana clip....I want to have a six shooter when facing a judge...I even want to smoke when i'm in a hospital, and by God I better get that uranium bomb for Christmas or Santa will pay....

 

[MarathonMike]

Anyone planning to attend the new Stars Wars movie better keep your eyes open. No better opportunity for a Terrorist hit than a bunch of people waiting outside a theater.

 

[Bleipriester]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

Very sad what happened to your country again. But I wonder, Mrs. M, if the committers were Islamist terrorists, why should they care about gun free/allowed zones. Did they fear resistance or did they not even know about these zones? Your figure 4a lacks of an essential information: what´s the overall percentage of gun allowed zones of these zones?

BTW: How many mass shootings occurred? Your circle diagram is frightening.

 

[Moonglow]

Anyone planning to attend the new Stars Wars movie better keep your eyes open. No better opportunity for a Terrorist hit than a bunch of people waiting outside a theater.

Or a church...

 

[Bleipriester]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

Anyone planning to attend the new Stars Wars movie better keep your eyes open. No better opportunity for a Terrorist hit than a bunch of people waiting outside a theater.

Or a church...

Stay close to the leader of ISIS and you will be fine...

 

[frigidweirdo]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

Could it be that gun free zones have been set up in places where vulnerable people who are more likely to shoot people are? Like schools?

Do you think getting rid of gun free zones will reduce the killings? No it won't, it'll just mean more killings in non-gun free zones.

 

[Geaux4it]

If Paris or Cal had happened in TX, there would have been a different outcome. Like dead terrorist shooters early.

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

Could it be that gun free zones have been set up in places where vulnerable people who are more likely to shoot people are? Like schools?

Do you think getting rid of gun free zones will reduce the killings? No it won't, it'll just mean more killings in non-gun free zones.

You may be right. I don't recognize gun free zones any more. I carry every time I leave the house. I had rather be judged 12 than carried by 6

-Geaux

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks."

This fails as a post hoc fallacy – there is no evidence that mythical 'gun free zones' 'attract' criminals who commit mass shootings.

Indeed, with regard to the private sector, there is no such thing as a 'gun free zone.'

That a business or private property owner might seek to 'prohibit' customers from carrying concealed firearms on his property carries no force of law, citizens with conceal carry permits often bring firearms onto such properties with impunity; and if discovered with a firearm, can only be asked to leave the property.

 

[Geaux4it]

"Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks."

This fails as a post hoc fallacy – there is no evidence that mythical 'gun free zones' 'attract' criminals who commit mass shootings.

Indeed, with regard to the private sector, there is no such thing as a 'gun free zone.'

That a business or private property owner might seek to 'prohibit' customers from carrying concealed firearms on his property carries no force of law, citizens with conceal carry permits often bring firearms onto such properties with impunity; and if discovered with a firearm, can only be asked to leave the property.

Can you point out any mass shootings that were NOT gun free zones?

-Geaux4it

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Are gun-free zones unconstitutional?"

No.

"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56."

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER

And this concerns solely government property, not private property and businesses, as the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment concern only the relationship between government and those governed.

There is no such thing as a 'gun free zone,' private citizens are at liberty to carry concealed firearms on private property with impunity.

Because there is no such thing as a 'gun free zone,' there is nothing to 'attract' would-be mass shooters.

The prohibition of firearms on government property is Constitutional, where such prohibitions do not manifest as the myth of a 'gun free zone.'

Last, there is no evidence whatsoever that citizens carrying concealed firearms can act in a capacity to 'thwart' a mass shooting incident – whether citizens are allowed to carry firearms in a given venue or not has no bearing on the success or severity of a potential mass shooting incident.

 

[Two Thumbs]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

I'm ok with gun free zones, based on the fact I support property rights.

If a private owner doesn't want people on his property to have arms, then that is his right to refuse service.

however, the government clearly has no right to set up an gfz anywhere in America

 

[asaratis]

I don't pay attention to signs barring firearms....except for government buildings...and even then it's only for the court houses, police stations, airports and federal office buildings that I want to enter. I have a concealed carry permit and I exercise my privilege to carry 24/7.

 

[Geaux4it]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

I'm ok with gun free zones, based on the fact I support property rights.

If a private owner doesn't want people on his property to have arms, then that is his right to refuse service.

however, the government clearly has no right to set up an gfz anywhere in America

So you must also support the right to refuse to marry queers

-Geaux

 

[Two Thumbs]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

I'm ok with gun free zones, based on the fact I support property rights.

If a private owner doesn't want people on his property to have arms, then that is his right to refuse service.

however, the government clearly has no right to set up an gfz anywhere in America

So you must also support the right to refuse to marry queers

-Geaux

I do.

as long as the owner gets no money from the government, the couple should move on.

 

[frigidweirdo]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

Could it be that gun free zones have been set up in places where vulnerable people who are more likely to shoot people are? Like schools?

Do you think getting rid of gun free zones will reduce the killings? No it won't, it'll just mean more killings in non-gun free zones.

You may be right. I don't recognize gun free zones any more. I carry every time I leave the house. I had rather be judged 12 than carried by 6

-Geaux

So you're a criminal then?

 

[frigidweirdo]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

I'm ok with gun free zones, based on the fact I support property rights.

If a private owner doesn't want people on his property to have arms, then that is his right to refuse service.

however, the government clearly has no right to set up an gfz anywhere in America

So you must also support the right to refuse to marry queers

-Geaux

I've never married a gay couple in my life. Nor a straight couple. It's my right not to do either.

 

[Mertex]

If Paris or Cal had happened in TX, there would have been a different outcome. Like dead terrorist shooters early.

-Geaux

Yeah right........like at Fort Hood? Most of them just kill themselves, or are killed after they have massacred many, never has a "responsible gun owner" come to the rescue and saved anyone. You're dreaming.

Prosecution rests in Fort Hood mass murder trial

Texas mass murder suspect collapses in court as crime recounted

Fort Hood soldier kills himself and three others:cops


1. Oct. 16, 1991: A deadly shooting rampage took place in Killeen, Texas, as George Hennard opened fire at a Luby’s Cafeteria, killing 23 people before taking his own life. 20 others were wounded in the attack.

2 .Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman opened fire from the clock tower at the University of Texas at Austin, killing 16 people and wounding 31.

3. Nov. 5, 2009: Thirteen soldiers and civilians were killed and more than two dozen wounded when a gunman walked into the Soldier Readiness Processing Center at Fort Hood, Texas, and opened fire. Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

4. Sept. 15, 1999: Seven people were killed and seven others injured when a gunman opened fire inside a crowded chapel at Fort Worth’s Wedgewood Baptist Church. Some worshipers believed that Larry Gene Ashbrook was pulling a prank and continued singing after the shooting began. The murderer killed himself.
The List: The deadliest mass shootings in Texas history

 

[rightwinger]

According to Crime Research Prevention Center, 92% of all mass shootings that have happened between January 2009 and July 2014 have occurred in gun-free zones. Yesterday afternoon 14 people were murdered and 21 people were wounded during a mass shooting at California Inland Regional Center – a gun-free zone - in San Bernardino, California. The shooters who were dressed in camouflage and body armor were brandishing rifles.

Law enforcement have confirmed that the shooters had 4500 rounds of ammo and 12 pipe bombs. This was clearly not a case of work place violence but rather a deadly Islamic Terrorist attack. These Muslim terrorists were armed to the teeth and planning mass murder on a grand scale.

Once again, we are seeing the evidence that gun-free zones are an open invitation for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Are gun-free zones unconstitutional? What about our 2nd amendment rights? How could we possibly disarm our own military on US military bases and reconcile such an action with upholding the Constitution? Who came up with the idea of gun free zones? There is a controversy as to who is responsible. Some say it was George Bush Sr.. Others have claimed that while DOD issued the directive under his watch, gun-free zones on military bases were first implemented by President Bill Clinton.

This directive from the Department of Defense was issued in 1992: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

Donald J. Atwood was the deputy secretary of defense that served under George Bush Sr.'s administration in 1992. According to an editorial some years ago, the claim was that Bill Clinton was the first to demand that all soldiers on military bases be disarmed. The report noted that it was Bill Clinton, whose actions led to Army regulations enforcement-forbidding US soldiers to carry firearms on base.
http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

While private citizens are permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, soldiers sworn to defend our country on foreign soil are not permitted to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on military bases inside the United States.

One soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan said, “Everyone carried weapons on the bases (inside Iraq), not just NCO's.” Another soldier commented, “We are trained to handle weapons and know them intimately, if a bad guy, military or not, wants to attack - this gives the good guy a chance!”

That makes sense.

So why the double standard? Our soldiers should be armed on US bases as well as in foreign countries. What works for our soldiers in foreign countries should work for them here on US military bases.

Bill Clinton's name comes up again in the matter of schools and gun-free zones. President Bill Clinton is reported to have signed the Gun-free Schools Act of 1994 into law on on March 31st, 1994.
Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gun-free zones are turning America's students, civilians and soldiers into easy targets. There is a reason that 92% of all mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. The enemy is being given a golden opportunity to inflict maximum damage with minimal resistance.

President Obama, the media and all those who are demanding stricter gun laws have it backwards. Anyone using gun-free zones as an excuse to disarm Americans should be told that gun-free zones are the evidence that disarming citizens creates the perfect environment for mass shootings and terrorist attacks.

Americans have seen time and again that gun-free zones are a breeding ground for mass shootings and terrorist attacks. Imagine a gun-free America and the lawlessness that would permeate our land! While criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons and ammo, the American citizen would be left utterly helpless. Disarming Americans is not the solution. It's the problem!

There is a logical answer for putting an end to these mass shootings. End gun-free zones now.

That's funny.....koshergrl just posted the same link

We've had a massive decline in gun violence in the US...except in gun free zones. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Coincidence?