Employee fired after transphobia rocks Wisconsin bar

[Polishprince]

Trannies need to be banned from existence.....for freedom

I disagree completely.

Traditionally, your She-Males, Pimps,Drag Queens, Hoes, Johns, Homos, Voyeurs and others seeking alternatives forms of sexuality, gathered into their own community. That was cool, those without interest in these activities didn't have to deal with it. The integration of these folks into Normative Society is something I could not have predicted and can't tell you how it will filter out.

So don't fuck a tranny...problem solved...…

Or are you afraid if we allow them into "normative society" -- you may feel compelled to fuck a tranny??

Normative people just don't care to socialize with She-Males, Shims or Hoes. Its about freedom of association. A square straight-arrow has nothing to say to the local pimp-daddy.

 

[Defiant1]

I thought the first rule taught to serving people was "the customer is always right."

 

[Polishprince]

I thought the first rule taught to serving people was "the customer is always right."

Not in the bar business.

You have to think about the other patrons and if they'll be offended.

A joints back in the day insisted that male customers wear jackets and ties, the other customers didn't want to get snooted with bums.

 

[Papageorgio]

Ask yourself why this jerky couple tried to drag their server into approving of their bigotry. They were behaving in a disgusting manner and offended her beliefs.

They should not have involved their server into their opinions. She decided that she would not serve the first group and went to her boss. The boss then decided what action to take, she could have served the first group or go home. When given a choice she decided to go home. Then she decided to take it to social media, that is what got her fired.

Lots of choices made and whatever decision each person made, they need to own up to it.

 

[Papageorgio]

I thought the first rule taught to serving people was "the customer is always right."

Not in the bar business.

You have to think about the other patrons and if they'll be offended.

A joints back in the day insisted that male customers wear jackets and ties, the other customers didn't want to get snooted with bums.

The manager of the bar was correct. They should serve everyone.

There is no right in America that says we can't be offended.

 

[Polishprince]

I thought the first rule taught to serving people was "the customer is always right."

Not in the bar business.

You have to think about the other patrons and if they'll be offended.

A joints back in the day insisted that male customers wear jackets and ties, the other customers didn't want to get snooted with bums.

The manager of the bar was correct. They should serve everyone.

There is no right in America that says we can't be offended.

I can agree that the manager and owners of the place can determine the policies of a joint in regards to this.

However, if a joint wants to establish a dress code, like wearing clothes appropriate to their sex , that's their business. Why should they be forced to lose their Normative clientele, just because a group of homos, pimps and/or she-males wants to make themselves at home there.

 

[Lysistrata]

Ask yourself why this jerky couple tried to drag their server into approving of their bigotry. They were behaving in a disgusting manner and offended her beliefs.

They should not have involved their server into their opinions. She decided that she would not serve the first group and went to her boss. The boss then decided what action to take, she could have served the first group or go home. When given a choice she decided to go home. Then she decided to take it to social media, that is what got her fired.

Lots of choices made and whatever decision each person made, they need to own up to it.

i thought that we are supposed to be sensitive to people's consciences and accommodate them these days. The owner should have found another server to take over this table, not give her a ridiculous ultimatum to violate her conscience or go home. What other recourse would she have had than to take the matter to social media? Does everyone who declares that their conscience is being violated have to "own up to it?

 

[Lysistrata]

Trannies need to be banned from existence.....for freedom

I disagree completely.

Traditionally, your She-Males, Pimps,Drag Queens, Hoes, Johns, Homos, Voyeurs and others seeking alternatives forms of sexuality, gathered into their own community. That was cool, those without interest in these activities didn't have to deal with it. The integration of these folks into Normative Society is something I could not have predicted and can't tell you how it will filter out.

So don't fuck a tranny...problem solved...…

Or are you afraid if we allow them into "normative society" -- you may feel compelled to fuck a tranny??

Normative people just don't care to socialize with She-Males, Shims or Hoes. Its about freedom of association. A square straight-arrow has nothing to say to the local pimp-daddy.

I don't see any indication that there was any interaction between the transgendered woman and the couple at the table, much less some interaction initiated by her, so it wasn't a matter of socializing or "freedom of association."

 

[Papageorgio]

Ask yourself why this jerky couple tried to drag their server into approving of their bigotry. They were behaving in a disgusting manner and offended her beliefs.

They should not have involved their server into their opinions. She decided that she would not serve the first group and went to her boss. The boss then decided what action to take, she could have served the first group or go home. When given a choice she decided to go home. Then she decided to take it to social media, that is what got her fired.

Lots of choices made and whatever decision each person made, they need to own up to it.

i thought that we are supposed to be sensitive to people's consciences and accommodate them these days. The owner should have found another server to take over this table, not give her a ridiculous ultimatum to violate her conscience or go home. What other recourse would she have had than to take the matter to social media? Does everyone who declares that their conscience is being violated have to "own up to it?

Who's conscience? Yours? Mine? The owner explained to her that they served EVERYONE, not just those that agreed with the server. If I went to social media and blasted my employer, I'd be fired. It is a risk, she had to know and sacrificed her job. It was her choice.

In my occupation I work with groups that I disagree with and fellow employees that go against my belief systems.

 

[OnePercenter]

Why didn't the manager switch servers?

Says on the story that it was homecoming so had MORE than the usual customers and weren't going to just switch servers which means switching areas of the eatery completely to make this snowflake feel better. Don't like dealing with ALL walks of life then get in a different line of work.

Instead of switching table for table, the manager sends her home leaving him one server short? The managers action was stupid.

No he said she COULD leave and so she did...he didn't demand she did. She should have stopped whining to begin with. Ignore the customers discussions unless its about the service,food,or drinks.

Why would a manager offer an employee to go home during a busy time when the problem can be solved by switching tables with another wait staff, or, wait for it.......the float person. Using "suck it up" is NEVER an appropriate response from a manager. He needs to be fired.

Maybe she wasn’t a great server to begin with, maybe she had other issues. She came in and he gave her a choice, either do what she was paid to do or go home. She went home and then blasted the customers on Facebook, she isn’t very bright. We all do things at work that We don’t want to do, but a job is a job and you are paid to do it, so you suck it up and do it. You don’t go crying to the boss.

Now you're making shit up. There was nothing in the story about her previous work history. As an employer of 40+ years, IMO the employer was wrong.

 

[OnePercenter]

Trannies need to be banned from existence.....for freedom

I disagree completely.

Traditionally, your She-Males, Pimps,Drag Queens, Hoes, Johns, Homos, Voyeurs and others seeking alternatives forms of sexuality, gathered into their own community. That was cool, those without interest in these activities didn't have to deal with it. The integration of these folks into Normative Society is something I could not have predicted and can't tell you how it will filter out.

Thank You Archie Bunker

 

[OnePercenter]

I thought the first rule taught to serving people was "the customer is always right."

BULLSHIT!

 

[OnePercenter]

Ask yourself why this jerky couple tried to drag their server into approving of their bigotry. They were behaving in a disgusting manner and offended her beliefs.

They should not have involved their server into their opinions. She decided that she would not serve the first group and went to her boss. The boss then decided what action to take, she could have served the first group or go home. When given a choice she decided to go home. Then she decided to take it to social media, that is what got her fired.

Lots of choices made and whatever decision each person made, they need to own up to it.

i thought that we are supposed to be sensitive to people's consciences and accommodate them these days. The owner should have found another server to take over this table, not give her a ridiculous ultimatum to violate her conscience or go home. What other recourse would she have had than to take the matter to social media? Does everyone who declares that their conscience is being violated have to "own up to it?

Who's conscience? Yours? Mine? The owner explained to her that they served EVERYONE, not just those that agreed with the server. If I went to social media and blasted my employer, I'd be fired. It is a risk, she had to know and sacrificed her job. It was her choice.

In my occupation I work with groups that I disagree with and fellow employees that go against my belief systems.

In my occupation I work with groups that I disagree with and fellow employees that go against my belief systems.

From what I've seen in your posts, your belief systems are completely fucked-up. Perhaps you should be fired.

 

[Papageorgio]

Ask yourself why this jerky couple tried to drag their server into approving of their bigotry. They were behaving in a disgusting manner and offended her beliefs.

They should not have involved their server into their opinions. She decided that she would not serve the first group and went to her boss. The boss then decided what action to take, she could have served the first group or go home. When given a choice she decided to go home. Then she decided to take it to social media, that is what got her fired.

Lots of choices made and whatever decision each person made, they need to own up to it.

i thought that we are supposed to be sensitive to people's consciences and accommodate them these days. The owner should have found another server to take over this table, not give her a ridiculous ultimatum to violate her conscience or go home. What other recourse would she have had than to take the matter to social media? Does everyone who declares that their conscience is being violated have to "own up to it?

Who's conscience? Yours? Mine? The owner explained to her that they served EVERYONE, not just those that agreed with the server. If I went to social media and blasted my employer, I'd be fired. It is a risk, she had to know and sacrificed her job. It was her choice.

In my occupation I work with groups that I disagree with and fellow employees that go against my belief systems.

In my occupation I work with groups that I disagree with and fellow employees that go against my belief systems.

From what I've seen in your posts, your belief systems are completely fucked-up. Perhaps you should be fired.

Good fire me! Oh wait I wouldn't work for someone like yourself.

 

[Papageorgio]

Says on the story that it was homecoming so had MORE than the usual customers and weren't going to just switch servers which means switching areas of the eatery completely to make this snowflake feel better. Don't like dealing with ALL walks of life then get in a different line of work.

Instead of switching table for table, the manager sends her home leaving him one server short? The managers action was stupid.

No he said she COULD leave and so she did...he didn't demand she did. She should have stopped whining to begin with. Ignore the customers discussions unless its about the service,food,or drinks.

Why would a manager offer an employee to go home during a busy time when the problem can be solved by switching tables with another wait staff, or, wait for it.......the float person. Using "suck it up" is NEVER an appropriate response from a manager. He needs to be fired.

Maybe she wasn’t a great server to begin with, maybe she had other issues. She came in and he gave her a choice, either do what she was paid to do or go home. She went home and then blasted the customers on Facebook, she isn’t very bright. We all do things at work that We don’t want to do, but a job is a job and you are paid to do it, so you suck it up and do it. You don’t go crying to the boss.

Now you're making shit up. There was nothing in the story about her previous work history. As an employer of 40+ years, IMO the employer was wrong.

That is why is said "maybe". She was given choices, her choices got her fired. As an employer and management since I was in my 20's the employer was right.

 

[WEATHER53]

Catering to the emotionally ill, sexually confused. Not in anybody’s job description

 

[sparky]

What happens at 'Fat Joe's , stays at 'Fat Joe's.....

~S~

 

[WEATHER53]

As always, cause a stir and go ballistic when people respond to it.
Never forget-Special and not equal is the goal.

 

[Defiant1]

I thought the first rule taught to serving people was "the customer is always right."

BULLSHIT!

You don't understand what it means.

 

[Lysistrata]

Ask yourself why this jerky couple tried to drag their server into approving of their bigotry. They were behaving in a disgusting manner and offended her beliefs.

They should not have involved their server into their opinions. She decided that she would not serve the first group and went to her boss. The boss then decided what action to take, she could have served the first group or go home. When given a choice she decided to go home. Then she decided to take it to social media, that is what got her fired.

Lots of choices made and whatever decision each person made, they need to own up to it.

i thought that we are supposed to be sensitive to people's consciences and accommodate them these days. The owner should have found another server to take over this table, not give her a ridiculous ultimatum to violate her conscience or go home. What other recourse would she have had than to take the matter to social media? Does everyone who declares that their conscience is being violated have to "own up to it?

Who's conscience? Yours? Mine? The owner explained to her that they served EVERYONE, not just those that agreed with the server. If I went to social media and blasted my employer, I'd be fired. It is a risk, she had to know and sacrificed her job. It was her choice.

In my occupation I work with groups that I disagree with and fellow employees that go against my belief systems.

Yeah. "Who's conscience? Yours? Mine?" So you are okay with that teacher being fired because he refused to do something that he claimed violated his "conscience"?

The server's situation was even more egregious because these customers where deliberately trying to goad her into agreeing with their political beliefs and/or embarrass her. What they did was incredibly rude. She was just there to take their order.

We Americans have, in the last few years, begun to play a dangerous game that is aimed at tearing our social fabric apart, that of forcing everybody to change their behavior to accommodate every individual's "conscience" when it somehow does not allow this individual to carry out his/her duties. In view of the delicacy with which county clerks and cake bakers with "conscience" problems have been handled, it would have been much more appropriate for the manager to at least relieve this server of her duties at that table and find another willing to take her place or service the table himself.